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Paulie83, the Storm was installed 2 weeks ago. My decision to move to the Storm was not driven by a desire for better processing. I was very happy with the sound produced by the Trinnov in a room that was specifically designed for good sound. The sound with the Storm is at least as good as the Trinnov, but I cannot be definitive about which is better. Perhaps the Storm has better bass but I had no concerns with how the Trinnov handled bass. My move was driven by desire for more power in the three front speakers. I am now playing the system at -22 db or better with a lot of sound - more than my wife will tolerate - and a lot more head-room. Happy to demonstrate if you are interested.

The rest of the speakers in the theatre are all Triad – 4 x Triad Onwall Gold for the side and rear and 4 InCeiling and one InWall Bronze/4 LCR in the ceiling. At this stage I am not selling any of these speakers.

Further Information: These speakers have been my front speakers installed behind an acoustically transparent SMX screen. I do not have the original boxes, but can arrange packing, but pick-up is best.

Further Information: I have three mono-blocks, two silver and one black. These units have remained in a dedicated rack since install and have happily powered my three front speakers. With my move from Trinnov to Storm Audio and from passive to active front speakers these units have become surplus. I do not have the original boxes, but can arrange packing, but given the weight of the units a pick-up is best.

The unit has been in the rack since the install and comes with the 3d mic. Further Information: The Trinnov Altitude 32 is highly regarded: https://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-98-trinnov-altitude-32-essence-evolve-ii-4k https://www.homecinemachoice.com/content/cruising-altitude-trinnov-audios-state-art-home-cinema-processor

It is an Altitude32-816 set up with 16 channels. The system is set up with 7-3-5 - or technically 7-1-5 as the three subwoofers - I front, 2 rear - are set up as one sub-woofer. My system was designed and set up by David Moseley at Wavetrain and is still featured on his home page. You can see the system on https://www.wavetrain.com.au/havana-rock/ I have not thought of a price, but hoping for $30k, but happy to discuss price.

If you are not locked into the purchase of a new Altitude 32 I am going to be selling my Trinnov Altitude 32 shortly. It also has not been moved from the rack since install and will have the 3d mic. I have given up on Trinnov delivering the software upgrade for audio over IP that they have promised since March 2021 and have placed an order for a Storm Audio ISP Elite Mk3. My system works brilliantly but my home theatre is large and pushing the limits of passive speakers even with Cary SA 500 watt monoblocks. I am in Wollongong and happy to demonstrate.

Hi CWT, I am not that fussed about 4K or 2K - most concert discs struggle with poor lighting at 1K. The key with Kaleidescape is the video bookmarking. This allows the server to be used like a jukebox, skipping over the disc non-standard menu system, FBI warning, studio logos etc. I have not seen anything like it on the other systems.

It may be a glorified Zappiti or Zidoo - not that I have looked at either - but I would not be able to enjoy my collection of music/concert discs without it. I have just bought a new Premiere server to ensure that it remains available as the core delivery system in my home theatre. I do not really care for or miss the movie store.

I have no trouble with criticism of Trinnov or Storm for cost but I have trouble with criticizing them for being 'computer under the skin'. If their record of support and responsiveness is superb and the equipment provides excellent room calibration and sound, what does it matter what is under the skin?

Happy to move on - but I presume that someone understands what you were saying. Otherwise it is all a bit pointless!

David from Wavetrain designed and installed my HT about 5 years ago and has kept in touch with opportunities to upgrade things. He got in touch early in the New Year with some options to upgrade to 4K. I took him up on the Benq LK990 and Lumagen Pro option, which he installed and calibrated Thursday/Friday this week, replacing a SIM2 Nero 3D projector, a CAVX MkIV lens/slide and an Oppo 105AU. I have just watched my first 4K disc and am blown away with the change in my system.

I agree with CWT - David looked after both of us with the Cary group buy - and I was not spending a lot of money. As the group buy was Melbourne based, David even personally delivered my pre-pro to Wollongong and helped install and set it up. I have ended up spending money with David but that evolved over time and was fostered by his passion for the industry. David has always been responsive to my calls.

Although you have the same price for both options you should understand that there different capability in both systems.The first system has more capability - not necessarily quality. You have a screen, set top box, projector bracket, HDMI cables and installation that you do not have in the second package. These could easily add 10 or 20% to your budget. I am also not sure how many surround speakers you have in the first option or what the ceiling speakers are. As Eli says you really need to listen to the speakers to make a choice. Your room is also fairly tight - comfy - and this may impact on your decision on speakers. You have not specified how high your ceiling is and this may impact on the size of the screen, particularly if you have a bulkhead. A 120" 16x9 screen is likely to be about 2.7-2.8 m wide and about 1.6-1.7 high with the frame. Best of luck.

In my experience, if an atmos system is well set up and calibrated in a well conditioned room, there is a significant improvement in the listening experience - a sphere of sound rather than just surround sound. This obviously works best for material in atmos format, but I have also found an improved experience with 7.1 and 5.1 material. I use my system mainly for music and live concerts and I would seriously miss the 3D sound capability in my system. However I agree that this is a personal preference and that it is difficult for a new user to appreciate. Gooner, I suggest that you take some discs to your supplier - or ask him to play some discs that he has - and listen in his demonstration setup to some material in a traditional 5.1 or 7.1 play-back and compare it to an atmos setup - or take up some of the offers to listen to the setups of other users. However, I agree with HTPC-Guru that it can be difficult for a new user trying get on top of what the various options are - as he suggests the new user is likely to make a decision based on a range of factors such as cost and advice from sales people, have the system installed and then follow the standard upgrade path that most of us have followed. This can be an expensive option - if you look at the for sale pages on this site, if you decide to sell you are going to be lucky to get 50% of what was paid, even for a recent purchase - and there are a lot of low-ball tyre-kickers that will offer significant less. If in your install you do not consider putting in 'good' cables - and here you can start a big argument on the forum on what 'good' means - particularly in a new build - then the upgrade can also involve significant installation costs in addition to the actual additional costs for new equipment in an upgrade. Regardless, I am sure that you are going to enjoy your new set-up! Best of luck.

No 7.1 is an 'old' 2D surround sound format - I say old as much of the content is still in 5.1. The setup that you are looking at is a 5.1.2 atmos format - not sure where you are going to put your ceiling speakers or how your AVR will play material to them and make room corrections etc. The content available in atmos format is growing but limited - it is still on the leading edge. I would not liken it to 3D vision - I have both in my HT and could do without 3D vision but would be seriously unhappy without 3D sound.

I was walking through JB-HiFi in Wollongong today and I noticed that they had Roger Waters the Wall on sale - but I also noticed that the disc did not indicate that it had Dolby Atmos. I bought my disc from Amazon in the UK as an advance order. Amazon's pages do not indicate that the disc has Dolby Atmos, but the disc that I received had a sticker indicating that it was had Atmos and the sleave also has a Dolby Atmos logo. So if you want the Atmos version I would be careful where you buy it.

I have just had a chance to listen to the recently released Roger Waters the Wall Blu-Ray which is the first concert Blu-Ray that I have heard that is released in Atmos. The sound is brilliant. I was fortunate a few years ago to hear the concert live in Helsinki while on a business trip. This was early in the tour and the release on the Blu-Ray is both very good but more polished - from the sub effects when the plane hits the wall in the first track. I would not hesitate in recommending this to anyone interested in hearing a music concert in 'true' surround sound. If you look at the reviews on Amazon.co.uk you will see there are a few that were looking just for the concert tracks. I am lucky that the track loaded in my Kaleidescape system with the video bookmarks and I can just play the songs. They jump a little between songs, but you get the full concert.

HTPC-Guru, this is a bit of a circular discussion. I believe that Wavetrain is supporting Aream in his development. The joinery used by Wavetrain is Becker Joinery and they do an excellent job. Unfortunately for Aream, Graham is not available to suit his timeframe so he needs explore other options.

Hi Peter, Thanks for the kind comments. Glad to hear that you are building up your system. Look forward to hearing how things develop.

There are many issues with planning, but I agree with Cowboyswing that there are options for getting planning approval for a home theatre that does not have windows. I had my plans approved by Wollongong City Council in NSW with a home theatre that did not have any windows - it was shown on the plan as 'Theatre'. I do not think that this was ever queried - and if it was I was never informed. If you already have you plans approved or are going with a project home then you may not have this option - my plans were prepared and submitted to council by an architect. However if you are not locked in it might be worth exploring. You will need to look at ventilation - my a/c contractor put in an CO2 sensor in the home theatre.

Hi Zinzan, I do not listen in a purist "2 channel" mode - for a couple of reasons. First most of my music comes from the Kaleidescape server and the standard menu system - which is very user friendly - means that you are using the audio option selected by Kaleidscape in creating the video bookmarks. This system is so user friendly that I rarely go into disc menus. The Trinnov arrived without a manual and was very well set up and calibrated by David. I have not changed settings - in part as the menu system that Matt set up on the iPad has limited Trinnov controls. I have found that the ceiling speakers do not come in on all discs, but when they do the sound is very enveloping. On some tracks you largely only get the 2 channels on the original disc. I agree with you on the John Mayer disc - I had it on the system and had not really listened to it. David played it after he had calibrated the system and it is now a favourite disc - Gravity in particular. Other Blu-Rays are very good - Adele, Sade, etc. However I have found that some of my old DVD favorites sound so much better on the Trinnov - Bruce Springsteen & the E-Street Band live in New York, David Gilmour in Concert, Eric Clapton One More Car, One More Rider, Queen Live at Wembley, etc. The sound from the Trinnov is so clear. Glad to hear your experience with David on your build and I look forward to hearing how your systems ends up and what you play on it.

Hi Ruth, The panels are digital prints on acoustically transparent material. The fabric is fitted in timber panels made by the carpenter. Two of the Triad surrounds are behind the fabric panels as are a range of room treatments - absorbers and reflectors of various types as designed and supplied by David. The front LCR speakers are behind the acoustically transparent screen in specially built baffles. The front sub sits below the screen. The seats are Jaymar Jolie seats with fabric upholstery and motorised mechanisms and they are very comfortable - we have had a few people fall asleep in them. They are D-Box enabled seats. The front seats sit on the D-Box platform which operates under the control of the D-Box controller. I have left the back seats as D-Box enabled while I work out if it is worth the investment for the actuators that would need to be installed in the seats for all the seats to have D-Box motions. As most of my viewing is music, the D-Box system does not get much use - and in fact I have let the license lapse for the update of the motion codes. Cheers, Tony

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