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Check out Ascension may change your mind.....

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Further information: Analysis Plus Oval 2 . Great cable changed my mind on power cables. 10AWG in diameter, Silver-plated copper. Furutech connection on both ends ( FI-AU 3112 & FI-11-N1) Photos:

Further information: Audioquest Colorado 3M RCAs hardly used ......no packaging box but see below photos for case. Will include shipping at asking price Photos:

If still in WA I will try.

Was wondering what was next ......wow would never have guessed Devialet. Hope they work well with the TADs and are the sound you are after.. ...they certainly are shiny!

Any more thoughts on the Cygnus? They settling in nicely?

Mmmmm Rickports superb speakers fantastic choice!

Apologies for the confusion yes EVO3 Synchro Cables .......Gryphon stereo amps require 2 power cords.

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I had 2 x Synchro's on my Gryphon amp and ending up going back to the Optimums. The Synchro's thinned out the sound and I lost a bit of dynamics which I put a preference on .Try before you buy if possible , count me as one who is not a big fan of the Synchros especially on amps.

Further information: Audioquest King Cobra XLRs 2M. All original packaging used once then put in cupboard. Photos:

Further information: Audioquest Colorado 3M RCAs hardly used ......no packaging box but see below photos for case. Will include shipping at asking price Photos:

Further information: Isotek Evo3 Elite 2M all original packaging. C15 with Aus plug. Price includes freight. Will accept paypal but all fees met by buyer. Great cable for the money and very hard to beat . More Elites and possibly Optimums to come soon. Photos:

I think you missed my point which was more focused on the service/info side of MSB and the likelihood of any benefit at all but thank you for the feedback.

@Ittaku Yes I am aware of the earthing philosophy I was simply curious if MSB had recommended your current configuration or if they advised there would be any benefit. They have offered excellent service and information even when I have gone against the grain just curious if they had offered similar help/advice. Cheers

Ok that is contrary to all the literature and info I received which indicates it should be to the amplifier. But that assumes that you going direct/through preamp module. Did MSB recommend this setup is best for your system?

Thank you for the feedback .Do have the mono-bases? Or single?? If I am not mistaken you mentioned previously that you have mono-bases but not the Femto 33...? I can see in your signature you are running a valve pre so the P20 would be a good investment they can be finicky. Have you experimented with lifting the ground on the PSUs as per MSB or have you left it standard. Not sure you would get the same effect/result as you have the valve pre in between the DAC and amplifier but still curious.

Thanks for the feedback interesting that our experiences differ quite a bit. As I have a separate phase with multiple circuits for my system may be a contributing factor...... I also installed all circuits and cabling in my house so that may help also. Perhaps there are differences between the Discrete and Select at play as well. The P20 would not be large enough for my system demands if I included everything without restricting it. 2 x Mephisto Solos mono-blocks 200W Class A (20A) , 2 x Woofer towers 1000 W A/B amplifiers and then Select DAC and Select Transport. Never been a fan of any conditioning on amplifiers but that may be due to the amplification I have owned. If I get the chance I will check out the new P15 or P20 to try on the front end. The P10 was a big disappointment but maybe PSAudio have improved. A few local SNAs have Accuphase power conditioners and rate them highly so will look to try them at some point too. For information if you are worried about surge voltages/lightning on your equipment there are other products that you can install in your switchboard which are far cheaper than power conditioning/generators and most likely more effective. Have you also tried the grounding recommended by MSB Lifting ground on power supply and linking ground to your amplifier.... providing one ground reference not multiple? Hard to say if it has improved the sound but the idea of having one reference point to earth reduces the risk of rotating currents.

Yes I have the twin mono bases. The initial Select I had to compare to my dCS Vivaldi 2 Full Stack only had a single power supply so I could not definitively say. Reading on other sites the general feedback is very positive. You separate the digital and analog sections. If you ask SGR they may have 2 mono supplies to try against your existing setup. Stuart is very helpful and accommodating. Yes dark back ground,dynamics and details are quite special ...definitely know what you mean. I have multiple dedicated circuits run to my systems and I am looking to run a couple more. I have 3 phase to my house and have dedicated a phase to my system . Just wondering if I should revisit power conditioning again but thinking I will follow MSB advice and leave it alone for now.

@GThorburn great post , your findings mirror mine. I have had many valve followers come around and mention the "system lacked nothing" ......" just sounds natural and right" seems to be a common theme To all MSB DAC owners I am curious about experiences with power conditioning and re-generators Having owned and used a PS Audio P10 with my previous systems , I used the Select 2 Femto 33 with mono power bases to the P10 It thinned out the sound and squashed the dynamics in my system. As mentioned I do not run a preamp I run direct to Gryphon amps using the MSB preamp module. MSB do not recommend any power conditioning/re-generators with the use of their DACs Do other users run MSB dacs with power conditioning/re-generators? Have you had similar experiences?

As mentioned previously a change of interconnects was dramatic....a high impedance cable squashed the dynamics of the amps. A change of cables to Analysis Plus Golden oval(which is recommended by MSB)was akin to changing a component which really surprised me. As a test and to confirm my findings I had 2 Sna members come around for a listen.They had no idea what I was doing and on changing a single set of interconnects with matched volumes.....both thought I had changed amplifiers not cables. Very surprising to me but just goes to show we can all learn.

Preamps add colour to the sound. Whether you like it is personal preference and also dependant on the amps you are feeding. MSB dacs vary on their output impedance and as you go up the ladder have a better ability to drive more difficult amps. I have tried and heard many pre's and up until the Select 2 preferred a preamp and what they added. I now drive my Gryphon amps directly. Like all things try in your own system and make your mind up

MSB Select 2 DAC ....mono power bases, Femto 33 clock is what I used direct to M500s