wim Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 now actively working to support Trump and the alt-right movement well how about that
proftournesol Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 Wikileaks will leak information that has been given to them. There are suggestions that the Russians have hacked into the Democrat servers to get the info and have leaked it to wikileaks 1
wim Posted July 24, 2016 Author Posted July 24, 2016 here's the facts: the hack came from russia. trump is very much aligned with putin. as much as I despise clinton - who has the most to gain from disparaging her? trump and putin are bffs. russia hacked clinton's emails be aware
Super Mustud Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 here's the facts: the hack came from russia. trump is very much aligned with putin. as much as I despise clinton - who has the most to gain from disparaging her? trump and putin are bffs. russia hacked clinton's emails be aware Trying to work out what bff might be. beautiful fragrant flower?
Lloyd Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 Trying to work out what bff might be. beautiful fragrant flower? One of my wives has a bff. Best female friend. Well, that is what she tells me anyway. 1
wim Posted July 25, 2016 Author Posted July 25, 2016 I rarely get in to politics but what's happening in the US has me emotional. Putin and Trump are very close. That's been clear for years. Apologies for the political thread. If the mods want to move or delete it - I'm happy with that.
hired goon Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 Trying to work out what bff might be. beautiful fragrant flower? "best f**n fellater" ? Actually it's an acronym for "best friends forever". --Geoff 1
lusk Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) here's the facts: the hack came from russia. trump is very much aligned with putin. as much as I despise clinton - who has the most to gain from disparaging her? trump and putin are bffs. russia hacked clinton's emails be aware Here is another fact: Clinton decided to setup her own email server at home against protocol which no doubt was hacked. Edited July 25, 2016 by lusk
colinm1 Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 Big Fat Fairy as for cliton she should be in jail for 17 serious breeches of security but they aint game to do anything, she is too high up the pecking order, anyone else would be whisked off never to be seen again ! 1
proftournesol Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 I rarely get in to politics but what's happening in the US has me emotional. Putin and Trump are very close. That's been clear for years. Apologies for the political thread. If the mods want to move or delete it - I'm happy with that. It's just an open example of how the 1% work together to further their mutual interests 2
Darren69 Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 I rarely get in to politics but what's happening in the US has me emotional. Putin and Trump are very close. That's been clear for years. Apologies for the political thread. If the mods want to move or delete it - I'm happy with that. America and Russia argue. No one likes it. America and Russia are BFF's. No one likes it. Hard to keep people happy!! It's all a bit leaky. 2
proftournesol Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 I think that of Wikileaks is true to its values of free access to information then it needs to not take sides over the information that it does release. There are some rules though, they have said (and have in the past) that they won't release information that identifies individuals that puts their lives at risk. Other than that I'm all for free flow of information 2
Darren69 Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 @@proftournesol that's assuming everyone who is exposed to given information will know what to do with it and I don't think we are that, umm, enlightened. I think the average IQ has already been discussed elsewhere. Things could get terribly messy, IMO. That's not even going into how info is used and give it time, WikiLeaks (if not already) will be just as guilty of gate keeping as anyone 'it' abhors. Its all a constant cycle.
sjay Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 Russia hacking Clinton is very convenient excuse wise... ZOMG the commies are backing trump, quick run for the hills. Killery is more corrupt than Obied, end of story. 1
proftournesol Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 @@proftournesol that's assuming everyone who is exposed to given information will know what to do with it and I don't think we are that, umm, enlightened. I think the average IQ has already been discussed elsewhere. Things could get terribly messy, IMO. That's not even going into how info is used and give it time, WikiLeaks (if not already) will be just as guilty of gate keeping as anyone 'it' abhors. Its all a constant cycle. Yes, there is a risk, but the risks of hiding information are considerable as we all know 1
hybridfiat Posted July 27, 2016 Posted July 27, 2016 Choose which you prefer: Wikileaks MUST to run all it's material passed a committee of Right leaning academics and journalists from The Australian before publishing! Wikileaks MUST to run all it's material passed a committee of left leaning academics and journalists from The Guardian before publishing! Wikileaks MUST run all it's material! 2
wim Posted July 28, 2016 Author Posted July 28, 2016 Donald Trump Calls on Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen, essentially urging a foreign adversary to conduct cyberespionage against a former secretary of state. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,†Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.†New York Times JULY 27, 2016
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted July 28, 2016 Volunteer Posted July 28, 2016 Interesting that the focus has shifted entirely away from the content of the emails (which showed that the democratic selection process was rigged). Good work by camp Clinton 2
davewantsmoore Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 now actively working to support Trump and the alt-right movement I don't see it. The fact that Hillary GOT hacked (bad Hillary) ... and the fact that Hillary had information which was something to hide (bad Hillary) is the story . The fact that there are people who want to access poorly secured information and make it public.... or that fact that these people might be enabled by foreign Governments. That isn't news. Also, people outside the mainstream media are reporting this stuff got hacked ages ago..... probably so the Russians could keep an eye on Hillary while she was "selling" uranium to them without authorisation, and pocketing the bonuses. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
davewantsmoore Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 "Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,†Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.†I bet there are a lot of people (including Trump) who would love to see the deleted emails made public. The fact that they exist is bad enough press, if the assumption that they were deleted for secrecy is even remotely true then the contents would be explosive. I wouldn't want to see Trump get in as much as the next sane person ..... but it is naive to push the barrow that Russia, Trump, or Wikileaks has done anything wrong IMO.
wim Posted July 28, 2016 Author Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I support neither the Clinton or Trump camp as the behaviour of both has been appalling. Hillary should, by all rights, be in prison by now. Trump - enough said. Honestly, I'd rather this guy as president. Edited July 28, 2016 by wim 1
Saxon Hall Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 There seem to be quite a few Hillary haters here calling for her to be jailed. Let it go to the American people to decide whether she is the Devil Incarnate as she is being portrayed. Politics can be a very dirty game sometimes
Ando Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 here's the facts:...................... russia hacked clinton's emails This seems to be commonly believed but as far as I can tell it was the Democratic National Committee's emails that were hacked and released. There doesnt appear to be any emails to or from Clinton in those released by Wikileaks. Happy to be corrected if this isnt correct. Cheers Mike
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