betty boop Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 I know a bit of a following for the premium prime compact thee days, and especially for cameras like the fuji x100 series, looks like the latest 4th gen of the series is been showcased in the X100F https://www.dpreview.com/news/0513197848/f-for-4th-hands-on-with-fujifilm-x100f I tend to love cameras like this, however having just sold my ricoh GR2 not that long ago...as not been using it since getting my 5D4 I cant help but still be drawn to something like this, will likely be quite an expensive one though and hardly compact.. i.e. not really pocketable.... so perhaps will sit it out. though I can expect it to get a lot of interest. I believe looking at the brief info on the new release it comes with a new sensor and AF system and an additional dial. some criticism am sure will come with sticking with the old lens which looses some favour... anyways ... a nice thing regardless am sure as with camera like this its relatively large APS-C sensor, the prime 35mm f2.8 equivalent prime lens in relatively compact form are the main attractions ... 2
Qwertyqaz Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 This is what I call no fuss camera. I was going to get one but ended up getting a OMD EM-10, all prime lenses. 1
betty boop Posted January 19, 2017 Author Posted January 19, 2017 35 minutes ago, Qwertyqaz said: This is what I call no fuss camera. I was going to get one but ended up getting a OMD EM-10, all prime lenses. the other thing I like about the X100 series is their optical viewfinder which is a hybrid and also includes an EVF. given how I detest EVFs and given it does provide the optical option is a major bonus for me and yeah there are certainly other options .... the little aps-c sensor canon eos m and m3 bodies coupled wiht other 22mm prime was one very good and ultra cheap alternative...
soundfan Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I'll never sell my " first gen" Fuji X100. Thought about upgrading through the S and T models, but never acted on it. And fortunately mine never suffered from the sticky lens, as did countless other users. Love this camera, and pretty sure this latest incarnation will tempt me too. Edited January 19, 2017 by soundfan
cafe67 Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 Maybe not quite the same , but i thought about one of things, but also a oly pen f with a prime lens. Not a bad idea as i could swap between this and my omd e1
buddyev Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) On 20/01/2017 at 1:19 AM, cafe67 said: Maybe not quite the same , but i thought about one of things, but also a oly pen f with a prime lens. Not a bad idea as i could swap between this and my omd e1 I decided on an em5 mk 2 as a second oly body to my em1. I checked out the pen f but apart from the fact it's a sexy looking thing I couldn't see any advantage or value to it. It seems designed for people who use the art filters on jpegs all the time, but the em 5 will do pretty much the same jpegs if that's what you want and it's half the price. The 5 is a very flexible and compact package with a 17 mm prime or 60mm macro - though it is a little small with the oly pro zooms. Edited January 25, 2017 by buddyev 1
betty boop Posted January 28, 2017 Author Posted January 28, 2017 hmm rather scary rrp of $2k !!! https://www.camerapro.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=Fujifilm+X100F&amp yeesh this was once a $1k camera that became a $1.5k camera and now 2k ? i dont see the justification as basically still the same camera just an up in sensor. pass...
betty boop Posted March 9, 2017 Author Posted March 9, 2017 hmmm interesting that teds is having quite an attractive pre order sale happening on the fuji, https://www.teds.com.au/fuji-x100f
betty boop Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x100f got a good review from dpreview and an award well deserved no doubt ... 1
betty boop Posted May 1, 2017 Author Posted May 1, 2017 oh look what turned up ! wow its slippery little sucker though ! first thing have done is get a wrist strap on it. just a quick wiz around and liking it in use. particularly the optical view finder and hybrid nature of it. The shutter is quick and like the manual controls. it is also reasonably compact and fits in the smallest manfrotto case got for it. look forward to see how it goes in use 4
Newman Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 What happened to "perhaps I will sit it out" in the OP?? Show a side-by-side image with your M5 and 22/2 lens please 1
betty boop Posted May 1, 2017 Author Posted May 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, Newman said: What happened to "perhaps I will sit it out" in the OP?? Show a side-by-side image with your M5 and 22/2 lens please well you know, "perhaps" and sometimes these things become too hard to pass up ! side by side, as in ? its very interesting holding each and how different they feel in the hand. one definitely going the mini dslr. the other very much the range finder.... couldnt be more different ! 1
Newman Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Thanks! Yes, like that. Interesting how there is a different style and user experience by design, but also interesting how the M5/22 concedes little in size and weight,and could probably be used in the same situations and intent for excellent results.
ArthurDent Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Newman said: Thanks! Yes, like that. Interesting how there is a different style and user experience by design, but also interesting how the M5/22 concedes little in size and weight,and could probably be used in the same situations and intent for excellent results. The Fuji is a whole lot sexier. 3
betty boop Posted May 1, 2017 Author Posted May 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Newman said: Thanks! Yes, like that. Interesting how there is a different style and user experience by design, but also interesting how the M5/22 concedes little in size and weight,and could probably be used in the same situations and intent for excellent results. I'll post some more comparatively as had a play with both tonight, did earlier in the day give the fuji a bit of a run though really just to check all works ! and also a bit of a run on few things wanted to explore, i.e. how goes for detail, its colour rendition, how goes with some moving things and also how handled the light portrait and another, also to see how would go catching some leaves in gusts of wind ! and then a scene with quite a mix of light and shade, and adding a bit more colour and more sun into the equation, overall only a bit of an impromptu run and pleased how it went. seems to produce quite a sharp result both close up and afar, meters well, and nice colour tones 1
Spearmint Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Congratulations Al, nice to see you giving a Sony sensor a run for a change. The Fuji's do produce nice JPG's IMO, particularly skin tones. Will there be an X-T2 or posssibly GXF 50S on your horizon?
Newman Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Calling it a "Sony sensor" is a bit of a stretch, just because they provide the fabrication plant. The X100F sensor is entirely designed and specified by Fuji, implementing Fuji technologies and IP. Fuji have no doubt ordered a few Sony technologies in the sensor as part of the supply contract, and equally, Sony withhold some of their IP. Fuji sensor. Same goes for Nikon by the way: they have excellent sensor design capability and IP, and they contract Sony and Toshiba for fabrication, and part of the supply contract will include some base Sony and Toshiba technologies. The result is a Nikon sensor.
betty boop Posted May 7, 2017 Author Posted May 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Spearmint said: Congratulations Al, nice to see you giving a Sony sensor a run for a change. The Fuji's do produce nice JPG's IMO, particularly skin tones. ~ thankyou spearmint dont know re sensors. I always thought fuji were off on their own with their particular approach to sensors which has its quirks no matter who ever it is that might make it for them. To be honest my main motivation to getting this, and its something have wanted to get since the first x100 that was released. Is that my 35mm film journey - one with film cassettes as opposed to prior forms(the weird and wonderfull cameras of my grand dads i played with prior) began as it happens on a fuji prime compact not dissimilar to the x100 series. love to remember the model number but it had a 35mm f2.8 fujinon prime lens and with optical range finder ... with the x100 implementation of which is much advanced. As it happens I owned that fuji as was my main camera for some 8 years !! after which getting into a canon eos SLR in very early 90s.. i still had a passion for these range finder style cameras though and picked up a ricoh r1 about a year into getting into SLRs and still own that little piece which was really only sidelined with the dawn of digital in the late 90s where got into a oly point shoot. so a bit of fondness with the form myself. but more of that in time to come, i dont want to jump to too many conclusions there... too early. kind of thing I think more find and discover and get accustomed in use I think. 4 hours ago, Spearmint said: The Fuji's do produce nice JPG's IMO, particularly skin tones. It does do tones pretty well, but there is a bit of similarity to ricoh GR2 I had as well, infact wondering now why I got rid of that ! great little camera that it was in some ways wish still had it as would make some interesting comparisons vs the fuji here. 1
Spearmint Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, al said: I always thought fuji were off on their own with their particular approach to sensors which has its quirks no matter who ever it is that might make it for them. Fuji opted for their own filter array for APS-C sensors, the issue is nearly all of the RAW converters are designed for Bayer array sensors. DXO Optics Pro for instance have indicated they are not going to support X-Trans filters. Interesting Fuji is using a Bayer array sensor in the GXF 50S. Capture One Pro and ON1 RAW have indicated their commitment to processing X-Trans RAW files, likewise Iridient Developer have been great with their development and processing of the files. It'll be interesting what Lightroom do with Ver 7 when its released.
Newman Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 Hey Minty, as a Foveon camera owner, I am super-sensitive to issues with choice of raw developer The X100F tempts me. But part of the temptation is the notion of shooting JPEG in the camera and taking advantage of Fuji's colour modes. Since the demise of Kodak it is safe to say that no-one, including Canon and Nikon, no-one knows colour like Fuji. Their colour knowledge is in those JPEGs. 1
betty boop Posted May 24, 2017 Author Posted May 24, 2017 http://www.photoreview.com.au/reviews/advanced-compact-cameras/fixed-lens/fujifilm-x100f a good review there including some measurements to find how performs. i'll post some of my own thoughts on how its panning out in use. i on purpose took with me as sole camera on a little family holiday recently ... so got a good chance to get to know better
betty boop Posted May 25, 2017 Author Posted May 25, 2017 http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/firmware/x/x100f/index.html and new firmware if you own a fuji...
betty boop Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 was going to post some thoughts about the fuji in use from a little family used it on, but looks like someone beat me to it ! https://www.dpreview.com/articles/8250882756/roadtrip-review-redux-fujifilm-x100 concur with just about everything there. I too found the focus a bit hit and miss. sometimes quite a miss. and yes sometimes the film modes can indeed be too much of a good thing I fear... though kind of things can say with anything that seduces you its a great everyday use holiday camera. it is not small or light weight. but that is a bonus in someways as feels good in the hand rather than the little toy like compact cameras can be these days. it is also quite a departure from many point and shoot cameras too,. where they often have an auto mode and you select say another mode say manual or aperture priority. or say shutter priority. on the fuji theres a dial for everything ... and everything has an auto set point which can move out of that to select manually... and in that way it feels great as a manual everything kind of camera ... it is also not THE most intuitive camera in use. theres a few things have had to resort to the manual for ...and am still learning also on the go...the wireless function is the pits transferring to say iPad ! it is very slow and clunky in use, kind of like come 50c app ! battery life is great... and if need be can charge off usb chargers and it the camera charges quickly. also the lens cap is an interesting thing... it slips off and on quickly.. as doesnt secure as such rather its a friction sleeve style attachment. while its easy on and off. it cant attach to the camera in any ways though... so in use always find am either holding it or putting it away some place. and always worry am going to loose it or leave it some place. great camera overall. and while its not perfect ... I am enjoying it in use. 1
cafe67 Posted November 4, 2017 Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) Courtesy of Al Edited November 4, 2017 by cafe67 1
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