steve u Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, CryptiK said: 12k for a power cable? Wow. I need to start a power cable company!! Anyone want to be a co-founder? Yeah the Mark2 Odin is up near the $22K mark and the matching interconnects are around $30K, as I said "statement" products, that probably should be hooked up to >$250K speakers and so on and amps close to that too. There are people that play at that end of the pool, I'm at the side in the wading pool or having a cold shower. There are cables that perform to similar levels to some ears, but won't set you back even 10% of that.
Jventer Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 I just love the OP's post. It is clear, concise and straight to the point of how he found it. Of course things like price, looks etc. plays a part, but that does not distract of the post - he shared his experience and his opinion. Thanks a lot. 3
Guest gmdb Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 43 minutes ago, Sir Rab of Everest said: Looks like the klei is now $460, not $350 @Sir Rab of Everest Depends who you buy from. Paul from Falls Audio sells the 1 metre KLEI for $350 on Ebay.
steve u Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 54 minutes ago, Jventer said: I just love the OP's post. It is clear, concise and straight to the point of how he found it. Of course things like price, looks etc. plays a part, but that does not distract of the post - he shared his experience and his opinion. Thanks a lot. Well said.
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted February 9, 2017 Volunteer Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, initforthemusic said: Must also stress that the results where when Power Cables were used through a Power Conditioner, in this case PS Audio Dectet. When I've tried using Power Cables direct to wall Power Point I get nowhere near the same improvements. I havn't tried every cable direct to wall though. This is interesting and a bit counterintuitive (I would have thought a power conditioner would "clean up" the power so that a better cable would make less of a difference ?) I assume that with the same cable, the dectet sounds better than direct to wall or does it differ depending on the cable? Edited February 9, 2017 by Sir Sanders Zingmore
Wayne Elliott Posted February 9, 2017 Author Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sir Sanders Zingmore said: This is interesting. I assume that with the same cable, the dectet sounds better than direct to wall or does it differ depending on the cable? Yes, on the cables I've tried to the wall and then plugged into the dectet they've sounded much better plugged into the dectet, like a synergy thing going on. But I've only tried this comparison with a few cables. In another thread, I think it was Ping, thought the KLEI sounded better direct to the wall (no conditioner). Might try this on Sunday and report back. 1
obitankenobi Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, initforthemusic said: Yes, on the cables I've tried to the wall and then plugged into the dectet they've sounded much better plugged into the dectet, like a synergy thing going on. But I've only tried this comparison with a few cables. In another thread, I think it was Ping, thought the KLEI sounded better direct to the wall (no conditioner). Might try this on Sunday and report back. Something obviously funny going on here if you plug in the KLEI direct to wall and find that the sound is better. If the sound isn't better with both your original cables and the KLEI at least that would make sense and could point to your need to "clean up" the power.
thimmy118 Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 @initforthemusic Thanks for making the effort and taking the time to perform the test and report according to what you have obviously heard from your system. Looks like power cables is one of the 'Bang for Buck' upgrade that's reasonably cheap and less system dependent. I had the experience of hearing 'slow' cables once; music sounded slow and slightly out of time and from then on, convinced that they do make a difference. I am a great believer in power cables but have not tried any of the ones you have tested. I am keen to now grab a KLEI cable for my CD transport. Thanks again. 1
JohnL Posted February 9, 2017 Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) @initforthemusic I read somewhere that the "shorter is better" cable rule differs when it comes to AC cords. Apparently longer is better for them. http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/158171/length-of-power-cords-is-shorter-better-to-what-length A lot of the higher end manufacturers do seem to offer a 1.5mt cord as their shortest. I wonder if length differences played any part at all in your tests..........especially with close contests!! Great memory BTW!!! Hopefully we can make something happen in the near future. I would expect going through the Dectet to sound better but look forward to your further findings. Edited February 9, 2017 by JohnL 1
davewantsmoore Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 23 hours ago, frankn said: @davewantsmooreit means exactly what I said. Please leave out the one liners about how the testing was done or wasn't done, what is known about cables etc. Cool. So I'll take it that the answer to my question is "yes". To me, that's a nauseous combination of sad and frightening. 2
hedalfa Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 For those interested in the KLEI™gPower2 they are on sale on ebay. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HI-End-power-cables-KLEI-gPower2-AC-cable-1-meter-length-/262578554730?hash=item3d22e6c76a:g:HqEAAOSwU-pXsT~S 2
hedalfa Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 If Aust made products stake up against others, why nott support local out money into the local economy. Feel free disagree , its just it is factor not often mentioned. I am glad we still have some retailers and manufacturers here. 5
rantan Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) nm Edited February 11, 2017 by rantan
owner of Falls Audio Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) On 09/02/2017 at 0:53 AM, initforthemusic said: Edited February 11, 2017 by owner of Falls Audio Changed mind
Weka Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, hedalfa said: For those interested in the KLEI™gPower2 they are on sale on ebay. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HI-End-power-cables-KLEI-gPower2-AC-cable-1-meter-length-/262578554730?hash=item3d22e6c76a:g:HqEAAOSwU-pXsT~S I would be asking the seller whether those Chinese made mains connectors are certified for use in Australia before handing over any money. Domestic 3 pin mains plugs are deemed High Risk Articles and have to be certified to AU/NZS 3112 before they can be legally sold.. 2
owner of Falls Audio Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, owner of Falls Audio said: The KLEi Gpower2 is a simply amazing cable. I have had 4 of these in my system for the last 4 months It has take my system to a new level of sophistication . KlEi has proved great customer service . 1
owner of Falls Audio Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) - Edited February 11, 2017 by owner of Falls Audio changed mind
owner of Falls Audio Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) - Edited February 11, 2017 by owner of Falls Audio Changed mind
rocky500 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, owner of Falls Audio said: These Plugs and IEC 's must be ok as they are also used Audio Quest and are sold here Do you know if these KLEi Gpower2 cables have been certified for use in Australia? Edited February 11, 2017 by rocky500
Weka Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, owner of Falls Audio said: These Plugs and IEC 's must be ok as they are also used Audio Quest and are sold here Yes Paul, "they must be OK" because as a reseller of the KLEi Gpower2 cables you have a duty of care to ensure they are safe and legal to sell and will therefore be able to provide a copy of the applicable Certificates of Compliance to your customers as you are legally required to do if requested. Would you care to quote the relevant certificate numbers so as to end this uncertainty and debate. Audioquest do not use these plugs ex factory - all their power cables up to the NRG-10 have molded plugs and connectors. The remaining three models are their top-of-the-line and certainly don't have these budget Chinese plugs fitted. 4
JohnL Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) It would be very nice if you could buy this KLEI cable by the metre unterminated.........( like my Acrolink) DIY with YOUR choice of length and terminations.... Could sound even better with a couple of Furutech Rhodiums!!!! Edited February 11, 2017 by JohnL
rocky500 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, JohnL said: It would be very nice if you could buy this KLEI cable by the metre unterminated.........( like my Acrolink) DIY with YOUR choice of length and terminations.... Could sound even better with a couple of Furutech Rhodiums!!!! You could always buy this cable as it looks like a good one. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=182430458119 1
qwerter Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, rocky500 said: You could always buy this cable as it looks like a good one. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=182430458119 Looks similar to KLEI cable. I wonder if it is the same...
rocky500 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, qwerter said: Looks similar to KLEI cable. I wonder if it is the same... I doubt it is the same. You can deal direct with Sean and get it a bit cheaper than on ebay. LINK I am in talks to buy some with his Silver plated IEC's and Aussie plugs. The problem again is it is not certified for use use here In Australia. Edited February 11, 2017 by rocky500 1
qwerter Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, rocky500 said: I doubt it is the same.... You can deal direct with Sean and get it a bit cheaper than on ebay. I am in talks to buy some with his Silver IEC's and Aussie plugs. Will give it a go too.
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