andyr Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, 075Congo said: I have replaced the non-compliant power connectors on my Synergistic Research power cables with Furutech Connectors bought locally from Michael at AV Gallery. I guess I have to ask, Mick ... what 'proof' do you have that the Furutech connectors are legitimately compliant?
075Congo Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 Good question! Also found that by fitting the connectors I was breaking the law in Queensland....other states probably the same. The Furutech connector has NSW 26696 on it. Some sort of Approval Certificate.....is that current for 2023 ?
bob_m_54 Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, 075Congo said: Good question! Also found that by fitting the connectors I was breaking the law in Queensland....other states probably the same. The Furutech connector has NSW 26696 on it. Some sort of Approval Certificate.....is that current for 2023 ? https://applications.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/eapr/PublicRegisterDetails.aspx?Certid=33622
075Congo Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 OK till May 2024 that approval application wouldn't be cheap I imagine. 2
aussievintage Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 On 30/05/2023 at 10:30 AM, Weka said: My understanding is that all second-hand electrical appliances (inclusive of power cords) are required to be Tested & Tagged prior to sale by both private and commercial sellers. On 30/05/2023 at 10:43 AM, Marc said: Is that information relevant to NZ @Weka (noting your location)? You've used and referenced documents and terminology I have not encountered in our research into this. I don't believe the test and tag applies to second-hand private sales in Australia. Well, I have an electrician friend, who provides a testing and tagging service to charities and his church, and even when just being sold over a table at flea markets, he says all electrical appliances MUST be tested and tagged. This is in Queensland. 2
075Congo Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 Our local Council Garbage Dump here on the Sunshine Coast will not touch any electrical products.......particularly for their Second-hand shop. Same with most Charity Shops as well. Re-cycling must be almost impossible or uneconomic...or both. 1
Administrator StereoNET Posted July 3, 2023 Author Administrator Posted July 3, 2023 Phil Hawkins muses on Russian electrons, physics, and electrical compliance...View the full article 1
rantan Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Really good and relevant article. Some dedicated action is long overdue in this area and something must change so that the consumer can buy with confidence. However, it seems the audio industry is not subject to the same scrutiny as most other consumer electrical goods and I always wonder why this is so. 1
muon* Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Some of the vintage Russian wire is very sort after by many, but yeah..that explanation in the article is silly. 1
Synodontis Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 8 hours ago, rantan said: Really good and relevant article. Some dedicated action is long overdue in this area and something must change so that the consumer can buy with confidence. However, it seems the audio industry is not subject to the same scrutiny as most other consumer electrical goods and I always wonder why this is so. It may seem that way but check out your local aquarium store. There are big brand names from Euro that have $0.20 plastic power adapters in the box. A large Tunze wave maker with a price tag around the $800 mark & it does not comply with any AU/NZ regulation. Very few AU importers change over any plugs, I'm only aware of one company doing this. Company's like Fish Street have warehouse's in AU for fast shipping, still come with adapters. Most boxes have a seclection of clip on adapters dpending on what country you are in. Now put all of these in a cabinet with salt water I spent 8K on tank lights that come with UK plugs from Phillips. The problem is everywhere @rantan
bob_m_54 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, Synodontis said: I spent 8K on tank lights that come with UK plugs from Phillips. I hope that tank is at least as big as your living room..
Guest Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 56 minutes ago, Synodontis said: It may seem that way but check out your local aquarium store. There are big brand names from Euro that have $0.20 plastic power adapters in the box. A large Tunze wave maker with a price tag around the $800 mark & it does not comply with any AU/NZ regulation. Very few AU importers change over any plugs, I'm only aware of one company doing this. Company's like Fish Street have warehouse's in AU for fast shipping, still come with adapters. Most boxes have a seclection of clip on adapters dpending on what country you are in. Now put all of these in a cabinet with salt water I spent 8K on tank lights that come with UK plugs from Phillips. The problem is everywhere @rantan Yep having gone down the marine path myself, and the amount of electrical involved in a very hostile environment - plus an industry full of cheap Eastern products is just a recipe for disaster! Also having been in the hobby and on many forums and FB groups at the time, I'm well aware of some electrical failures and worse. That particular industry is also full of what I've always referred to as "bedroom distributors". Many wouldn't even be aware of the compliance requirements, let alone going down that path!
Guest Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 7 hours ago, muon* said: but yeah..that explanation in the article is silly. It was a bit of humour - intentionally "silly", even. 2
muon* Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Just now, Marc said: It was a bit of humour - intentionally "silly", even. Ah OK, I should not have skimmed, otherwise I may have gotten that. Thanks, Marc.. 1
075Congo Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 The Cable Company got back to me re my Synergistic Research Power Cords (cracking!) and have asked for all sorts of information re how I had them installed in my audio rack. SR and The Cable Company have never had the problems I described (and sent photos of) in any of their power plugs both US and the AUS/NZ models. Specific questions re any "tension" in the cable near the IEC/Power plugs may be the cause of the cracking in my case. Small audio rack space and bending large diameter cables within that space .............well. Of course there is no warning in the product description of audio power cables re leaving the cables 'unrestrained" or such like. Anyway I have sent more photos and diagrams of my audio rack area.....see what they make of it. I recall seeing a warning re installing loudspeaker cables (Nordost ?) but nothing on other cable types. Cheers
Guest Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, 075Congo said: Specific questions re any "tension" in the cable near the IEC/Power plugs may be the cause of the cracking in my case. Small audio rack space and bending large diameter cables within that space .............well. To me, this is just common sense. For as long as I can remember, I've always made sure no cables are under any strain or tension when installed. You can actually buy cable "jacks" for this very purpose - which provide a strut or prop that sits on the rack behind the component to give it some support. Nothing should fail under its own weight alone though - and if by design it could, then it should be provided with such supports I mention above.
075Congo Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 I think a name for this is "cable dressing"........of all the "things" to put into a product description maybe the way a "power cord" is installed needs to be described. Not sure how you would describe it in print......as well not many buyers read the paperwork/owners manual etc.
ray4410 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 a power cord is a power cord weather it's a zillion $ hifi power cable or a 10 buck cable from Bunnings or jaycar as long as it is treated and installed with the respect that power cables deserve there should not be any problem with cracking connectors or the cable itself,we had a power surge down here on the Mornington peninsula several years ago it took out electrical appliances everywhere that was connected on that grid,i myself lost tv/fridge/bar fridge/etc, not one power cord or iec plug or wall plug was affected,i was lucky with my hi fi fuses work,how those power plugs of yours Mick got to that state is beyond me hope you can get some sort of satisfaction from the people concerned.
bob_m_54 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 On 07/07/2023 at 10:34 AM, Marc said: To me, this is just common sense. Common sense and 10AWG mains cords??? I don't see a correlation...
075Congo Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 Thanks Ray...the latest from them is that I used their cables in a confined space (my rack area) and this caused undue stress on the connectors.....hence cracking. Since using Furutech connectors in the same space ...not a sign of anything to be concerned about. I am not holding my breath! 1
075Congo Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Interestingly there are still SNA members listing power cords with US plugs for sale in the Classifieds.........not a lot but enough to be concerned. Examining their adverts there is no mention of the power cord being unsuitable for use in Australia and New Zealand but nor would you expect that sort of warning. One is listed at $3800 AUD which had me thinking. 2
rantan Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, 075Congo said: . Examining their adverts there is no mention of the power cord being unsuitable for use in Australia and New Zealand ...and yet people actively and willingly search for and use these un necessary cords either not knowing or not caring, about their legality for use in Australia. 1
075Congo Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 At the moment we have 10 Chinese-made AU/NZ power plugs being sold on SNA. Looking at the photos of the plugs there is no insulation present on either +ve or -ve blade of the connector. Non-compliant to Australian standards ? Risky to use ? As well there are 5 power cords with US plugs fitted listed actively for sale in the Classifieds. Nothing can be done re that I suppose but after 10 pages of "debate".......... ? 2 2
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