parrasaw Posted January 27 Posted January 27 16 minutes ago, wen said: @parrasaw, looking last night again, I think I used the Cardas speaker golden rule?, never have been able to do a link, I am a tech dinosaur, I typed in , golden speaker ratios, and speaker placements from walls, sifted through the articles, but from memory I think I used room length/width 1.68 and from those points made an equilateral triangle to the seating position. Great. Thank you. Pretty sure that I have read that one, and can certainly now follow it up, based upon your reply. I can appreciate your comment about being a bit of a tech dinosaur - me too, but at least with audio there is a good reason for trying to pick up a few new skills here and there. Thanks again, Paul. 1
andyr Posted January 28 Posted January 28 46 minutes ago, wen said: @parrasaw, looking last night again, I think I used the Cardas speaker golden rule?, never have been able to do a link, I am a tech dinosaur, I typed in , golden speaker ratios, and speaker placements from walls, sifted through the articles, but from memory I think I used room length/width 1.68 and from those points made an equilateral triangle to the seating position. 1.618 - the Golden Ratio - is the (theoretical) "magic number"! IOW, the (theoretically) ideal room would be: Xm wide 1.618 * Xm long and .618 * Xm high. For a particular wall length - say, 5m for the short wall - you could re-use ".618 / 1.618" to locate the position of the centre of the woofers: from centre of woofer to farthest side wall: 5m * .618 = 3.1m so distance to nearest side wall = 1.9m therefore distance between woofer centres = 1.2m ... however, this makes the spkrs rather close together. 1 hour ago, parrasaw said: I have read a number of different opinions about speaker placement relative to the room shape and size. Do you have a link for the ratio which you have mentioned in your reply? The "Rule of Thirds" is the most common rule of thumb, re. spkr (woofer centre) placement. IOW: distance to the side walls = 1/3rd of the room width distance off the front wall = 1/3rd the room length so distance between woofers = 1/3rd of the room width with your listening chair placed so your ears are 1/3rd of the length into the room. However, this is often difficult to achieve in the room you have. So the next best thing is to use 1/5th || 2/5ths or 1/7th || 2/7ths, instead. Using these odd fractions means woofers are not placed in the 1/4 || 1/2 positions where room nodes are located. 3
stevoz Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 hours ago, andyr said: I'm suggesting you simply move them out in a straight line from the front wall. Why will this mean they get any closer together than they are now? You may need to sit closer to the spkrs - so sit at the front corner of an equilateral triangle with the spkrs. That's how I took your first suggestion, 'from the front wall' as opposed to further out from the side wall.....which would make them closer together. Apologies for jumping in on your conversation with @crisis but when you say 'an equilateral tringle with the speakers', do you mean to also point the speakers directly at the 'sweet spot' sitting position? I did this with my speakers originally but have noticed over the years a lot of photo's that show set up's with the speakers facing directly out, ie: with the sides of the speakers parallel to the side walls. I did a bit of experimenting with speaker direction/angles and ended up with mine in between these two extremes, pointing past my ears and intersecting at a point a few feet behind me. I found this was best for channel separation and spaciousness of the sound. Your thoughts Andy?
andyr Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, stevoz said: but when you say 'an equilateral triangle with the speakers', do you mean to also point the speakers directly at the 'sweet spot' sitting position? I did this with my speakers originally but have noticed over the years a lot of photo's that show set ups with the speakers facing directly out, ie: with the sides of the speakers parallel to the side walls. I did a bit of experimenting with speaker direction/angles and ended up with mine in between these two extremes, pointing past my ears and intersecting at a point a few feet behind me. I found this was best for channel separation and spaciousness of the sound. Your thoughts Andy? I view the amount of toe-in you use ... as a different issue from ear/spkrs placement: the latter is associated with exciting room modes the least (whilst trying to get the greatest soundstage depth you can) whilst the former is to do with: as you say, soundstage spaciousness but also treble brightness. I have my spkrs pointing a couple of feet behind my head. 1
crisis Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 hours ago, andyr said: I'm suggesting you simply move them out in a straight line from the front wall. Why will this mean they get any closer together than they are now? You may need to sit closer to the spkrs - so sit at the front corner of an equilateral triangle with the spkrs. Yeah, I thought you meant from the side walls. They are just over a metre from the back. They could probably come out another 100mm but will get close to the couch.
mwhouston Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Ive understand that farther away than speakers are together. For me that is the difference of a meter. 4mteres apart, 5meters back.
andyr Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) 53 minutes ago, mwhouston said: Ive understand that farther away than speakers are together. Using an equilateral triangle means: the distance of your ears from each spkr is the same as the distance, the centre of the spkrs are apart. It doesn't mean you are sitting the same distance from the plane of the spkrs as they are apart. You are actually sitting closer to the plane of the spkrs than they are apart. Using an isosceles triangle instead of an equilateral - whereby you are further away from the plane of the spkrs than they are apart - is fine ... all this does is narrow the soundstage you experience. Edited January 28 by andyr 4
muon* Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Replaced the H2 Harmonic Generator with slightly modded little FX Audio Tube01, still the Stock Chinese tubes. 5
Gregg Froman Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) My new EMM Labs DV2i D/A and Preamp. Plus new Stealth Audio Dream V18T biwire speaker cables. Just incredible clarity and imaging!! Edited February 12 by Gregg Froman 9 2
crisis Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Running the Primare CD35 through this. Definitely more detail resolution and sharper imaging. 2
Batty Posted February 13 Posted February 13 19 hours ago, muon* said: Replaced the H2 Harmonic Generator with slightly modded little FX Audio Tube01, still the Stock Chinese tubes. I'd love to try the ML1s in my system, running the LK1 atm.
muon* Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Batty said: I'd love to try the ML1s in my system, running the LK1 atm. Been a staple for me for over 10 years now. I'm not happy with my amplification lately though. The LK1 would share a lot with the ML-1 regarding the Lenehan sound signature.
AccuTidal Posted February 16 Posted February 16 (edited) The soft light of a Sunday morning filters through the window, casting gentle shadows across the room. It’s just me, enveloped in the peace of this cozy space, savoring the stillness that comes before the world stirs to life. Edited February 16 by AccuTidal 15 8 3
brodricj Posted February 16 Posted February 16 2 hours ago, AccuTidal said: The soft light of a Sunday morning... Hard to believe you haven't upgraded S5 to M7 yet. 1
AccuTidal Posted February 16 Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, brodricj said: Hard to believe you haven't upgraded S5 to M7 yet. The reason for this is based on the concept of opportunity cost. I considered the choice between maintaining a happy family and enjoying my personal collection of grape juice or risking everything and likely settling for just one M7 instead of a pair, depending on the lawyer's performance if M7s become part of our family. 4 3 1 8
parrasaw Posted February 16 Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, AccuTidal said: and enjoying my personal collection of grape juice Nice "personal collection of grape juice" !! 1
brodricj Posted February 16 Posted February 16 54 minutes ago, AccuTidal said: The reason for this is based on the concept of opportunity cost. But M7 is eternal happiness. When you've drunk all the grape juice you've got nothing left to show for it. 1
crisis Posted February 17 Posted February 17 not a great pic but a $50 space/galaxy projector to the ceiling. With music, and wine (not included in the $50). Possibly the best $50 Ive ever spent. 9
Misternavi Posted February 17 Posted February 17 On 16/2/2025 at 2:27 PM, AccuTidal said: enjoying my personal collection of grape juice Next StereoNet get together will be at your place. I'm inviting myself and I don't care if nobody else turns up! 4
AccuTidal Posted February 17 Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Misternavi said: Next StereoNet get together will be at your place. I'm inviting myself and I don't care if nobody else turns up! You read my mind! I'm super excited to be planning a fabulous get-together for the upcoming WA March public holiday and would love your input on how to elevate the ambiance with some fantastic music. Let's make this gathering an unforgettable experience with grape juice! 12 1 1 4
AdrianRa Posted February 17 Posted February 17 36 minutes ago, AccuTidal said: You read my mind! I'm super excited to be planning a fabulous get-together for the upcoming WA March public holiday and would love your input on how to elevate the ambiance with some fantastic music. Let's make this gathering an unforgettable experience with grape juice! I would love to come along, I would love to meet people that are also passionate about HIFI here in Perth, especially Accuphase lovers , please consider me as well! 2
Misternavi Posted February 18 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, AccuTidal said: You read my mind! I'm super excited to be planning a fabulous get-together for the upcoming WA March public holiday and would love your input on how to elevate the ambiance with some fantastic music. Let's make this gathering an unforgettable experience with grape juice! That's bloody dangerous! You also better be handing out extra livers post gathering. 2
brodricj Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) On 18/02/2025 at 7:01 AM, AccuTidal said: You read my mind! I'm super excited to be planning a fabulous get-together for the upcoming WA March public holiday.. I'm in Shanghai. You always plan stuff when I'm not in town. (p.s. the Great Firewall of China is blocking all images on SNA but not posts). Edited February 20 by brodricj 1
Mendes Posted February 20 Posted February 20 On 18/02/2025 at 7:01 AM, AccuTidal said: You read my mind! I'm super excited to be planning a fabulous get-together for the upcoming WA March public holiday and would love your input on how to elevate the ambiance with some fantastic music. Let's make this gathering an unforgettable experience with grape juice! 3
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