Pops110 Posted August 31, 2020 Posted August 31, 2020 It was my favourite room at the show a few years ago. Sat in there for quite a while listening, loved them.
Silver Audiophile Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 What happens when you play your Duntech Senators during the day with the windows open for fresh spring air!
Mickstuh Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 Ha! Great. Try playing some bird recordings! 1
5L15 Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) If you love Duntech, I was at LWA the other day picking some stuff up and noticed these rare 2nd hand beasts, Dunlavy Audio Labs Aletha floor standers. Interesting how John’s speakers evolved. http://www.highendnews.info/reviews/DAL-AlethaCordesman.htm#:~:text=The Aletha has character where,in a much smaller package Edited October 28, 2020 by 5L15
Dark_Matter Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) @kelossus Thanks Chris for posting the interesting review, how big is your room and what is the rest of the system? Thanks Simon Edited October 28, 2020 by Dark_Matter content
Silver Audiophile Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 SoundStage! Australia editor-in-chief Edgar Kramer talks to Duntech Audio’s CEO, Kiat Low, about John Dunlavy’s legacy design philosophies and how they apply to the drivers, crossovers, and overall design of the company’s new Senator and Princess loudspeakers. Kiat Low also touches on the future reinvention of the iconic Duntech Audio Sovereign loudspeaker. 1
kelossus Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 On 29/10/2020 at 12:51 AM, Dark_Matter said: @kelossus Thanks Chris for posting the interesting review, how big is your room and what is the rest of the system? Thanks Simon Room is 4m x 7m. At the time of review I had a Krell FBI running into a VPI Prime w/Zyx Airy 3 through Lehmann Silver Cube. Currently using a BHK Pre into a Pass Labs X250.5 into a VPI Prime w/Windfield TI through Lehmann Silver Cube. The Pass Labs does not have near the slam or control over the woofers but has a more engaging mid-band which I overall preferred. 1
Dark_Matter Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, kelossus said: Room is 4m x 7m. At the time of review I had a Krell FBI running into a VPI Prime w/Zyx Airy 3 through Lehmann Silver Cube. Currently using a BHK Pre into a Pass Labs X250.5 into a VPI Prime w/Windfield TI through Lehmann Silver Cube. The Pass Labs does not have near the slam or control over the woofers but has a more engaging mid-band which I overall preferred. Thanks Chris Simon
MattyW Posted November 10, 2020 Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) @kelossus they sound like speakers I'd enjoy. I love bass detail and depth, though actually don't really like slam. It's all about a natural presentation for me. Edited November 10, 2020 by MattyW
canuckaudioguy Posted April 22, 2021 Posted April 22, 2021 Hi everyone, I have recently become the owner of new-to-me Duntech PCL500 'The Marquis' speakers. These are the original, early models with the square base and squared off cabinets. I was lucky finding these (somewhat), as I got them very inexpensively ($200). However, I've discovered a significant problem, and I'm hoping there may be someone here who can shed some light or point me in the direction I need to go. Two of the 8" woofers, the VIFA M21WN-18, are blown. Completely toast - coils are deformed and unraveled, and the former is detached from the cone. A real shame. Thankfully all the other drivers are functional, including all of the drivers in the other speaker. Also, cosmetic condition is good. They're worth getting up and running again. I really want to get them working again, and I realize that these drivers are like hen's teeth now. I'm wondering if someone may know of a modern replacement and I can replace all 4 drivers, or if there may be a source for recone kits? I have reached out to Duntech but haven't heard back yet and am doubtful they have any supply anyways. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome, I really want to get these working again. Also, what the heck do I have in these PCL-500s? I don't know the pedigree of this line or where this speaker ranks in Duntech's lineup. It seems they're a worthwhile speaker, so I assume the effort I need to undertake to restore them will be rewarding. I am currently enjoying Altec 604-8Gs a great deal, but I have a feeling these Duntechs will be even better. Thank you all for such an enjoyable thread, I read through it all. There is some awesome info in here. If anyone has any information or support I would be very grateful! 2
Andythiing Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Sold my marquis a year ago and been regretting it ever since - just acquired some d200 viscounts - great to have the duntech sound back and they actually are better suited to my reduced space availability compared to marquis 7
Darryl Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Nice. Were they the ones on Gumtree?. And judging by your avatar and the Beatles poster, I think I know you 1
Andythiing Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Yes Darryl on gumtree recently - local guy selling off his gear before heading to qld - no $$$ changed hand as it worked out some equipment swapping worked well for him, his friend and I - yep also you know me - got caught up in membership login problems - requested Marc to merge accounts but I’m sure he is busy or else I’ve done something amiss - not posting much these days but still visit on occasion to drool 1
Andythiing Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 Picked up a second rotel 1312 today so I could biamp the viscount d200 8 1
frednork Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 On 22/04/2021 at 12:06 PM, canuckaudioguy said: Hi everyone, I have recently become the owner of new-to-me Duntech PCL500 'The Marquis' speakers. These are the original, early models with the square base and squared off cabinets. I was lucky finding these (somewhat), as I got them very inexpensively ($200). However, I've discovered a significant problem, and I'm hoping there may be someone here who can shed some light or point me in the direction I need to go. Two of the 8" woofers, the VIFA M21WN-18, are blown. Completely toast - coils are deformed and unraveled, and the former is detached from the cone. A real shame. Thankfully all the other drivers are functional, including all of the drivers in the other speaker. Also, cosmetic condition is good. They're worth getting up and running again. I really want to get them working again, and I realize that these drivers are like hen's teeth now. I'm wondering if someone may know of a modern replacement and I can replace all 4 drivers, or if there may be a source for recone kits? I have reached out to Duntech but haven't heard back yet and am doubtful they have any supply anyways. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome, I really want to get these working again. Also, what the heck do I have in these PCL-500s? I don't know the pedigree of this line or where this speaker ranks in Duntech's lineup. It seems they're a worthwhile speaker, so I assume the effort I need to undertake to restore them will be rewarding. I am currently enjoying Altec 604-8Gs a great deal, but I have a feeling these Duntechs will be even better. Thank you all for such an enjoyable thread, I read through it all. There is some awesome info in here. If anyone has any information or support I would be very grateful! Hi Jeffrey, I assume a good speaker tech could get them back in shape but if thats not straightforward you could try some of the offerings here https://www.hifishark.com/search?q=vifa+m21. The PCL 500's are 3rd down in the classic line with the princess/crown prince and Sovereign above which were the TOTL. They are a nice speaker and worth getting going again. Still sealed and time and phase coherent as with all those models. Good luck in getting the vifa's sorted and getting those Duntechs to sing. 1
canuckaudioguy Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 On 11/05/2021 at 3:53 AM, frednork said: Hi Jeffrey, I assume a good speaker tech could get them back in shape but if thats not straightforward you could try some of the offerings here https://www.hifishark.com/search?q=vifa+m21. The PCL 500's are 3rd down in the classic line with the princess/crown prince and Sovereign above which were the TOTL. They are a nice speaker and worth getting going again. Still sealed and time and phase coherent as with all those models. Good luck in getting the vifa's sorted and getting those Duntechs to sing. Thanks for your response, Fred! The current plan is I have sourced a local repair tech who has replaced coils and done full speaker rebuilds. I explained and showed him the issue and he says as long as he can find a proper voice coil, he can fix them. Now the question is, will it be possible to find one that is suitable and close to the originals? Won't be exact but close enough would be better than not at all. Failing that I think I will need to explore some of the more modern M21 replacements. I may even refoam the good drivers, get them measured, then determine a proper replacement from there.
Andythiing Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, canuckaudioguy said: Thanks for your response, Fred! The current plan is I have sourced a local repair tech who has replaced coils and done full speaker rebuilds. I explained and showed him the issue and he says as long as he can find a proper voice coil, he can fix them. Now the question is, will it be possible to find one that is suitable and close to the originals? Won't be exact but close enough would be better than not at all. Failing that I think I will need to explore some of the more modern M21 replacements. I may even refoam the good drivers, get them measured, then determine a proper replacement from there. Give kiat low at duntech a call or email - he may be able to give you some guidance on sourcing parts 1
canuckaudioguy Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) On 12/05/2021 at 2:42 PM, andythiing said: Give kiat low at duntech a call or email - he may be able to give you some guidance on sourcing parts Thanks andy I did, he didn't have any information to offer unfortunately. He said there might be a Scanspeak replacement but I checked with them and they didn't have any idea either. That said, once the tech has taken a look at the original coils (I have two good, working woofers) and has taken measurements, I'll share them here for posterity. Edited May 14, 2021 by canuckaudioguy 1
Andythiing Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, canuckaudioguy said: Thanks andy I did, he didn't have any information to offer unfortunately. He said there might be a Scanspeak replacement but I checked with them and they didn't have any idea either. That said, once the tech has taken a look at the original coils (I have two good, working woofers) and has taken measurements, I'll share them here for posterity. Extract from lost on page 11 of this thread Marquis PCL500, and later C4000. Having custom W21 woofers which gave the Marquis a perfect .707 critically damped bass response to 45Hz and offthe shelf M10MD mids and D26TG tweeter.Dunlavy had the theory, if it measured correctlythen it must be correct. Didn't matter about thecost of the drives, as long as they reproduced themeasurements he deemed they needed to it was fine. Nice theory, but a little flawed. But that'sanother story. 1
canuckaudioguy Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, andythiing said: Extract from lost on page 11 of this thread Marquis PCL500, and later C4000. Having custom W21 woofers which gave the Marquis a perfect .707 critically damped bass response to 45Hz and offthe shelf M10MD mids and D26TG tweeter.Dunlavy had the theory, if it measured correctlythen it must be correct. Didn't matter about thecost of the drives, as long as they reproduced themeasurements he deemed they needed to it was fine. Nice theory, but a little flawed. But that'sanother story. Good shout, I hadn't thought about looking at the other drivers for some info. That might help clue me in on a replacement if I need to go that route.
Silver Audiophile Posted June 5, 2021 Posted June 5, 2021 The warm glow of tubes to illuminate a cool Australian winter morning.. Duntech Senators still sounding sweeter all the time, as I upgrade everything else around her. 1 1
canuckaudioguy Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) The person repairing the woofers for my Marquis got back to me and told me he has suitable voice coils on hand to repair them. So, they will be repaired pretty soon. They're likely somewhat different than the originals but the impedance will be close. I will probably use 1 original and 1 repaired per cabinet to even it out. Anyway, the great news is they'll be functional again! I'm investigating the crossovers and note a lot of people seem to like upgrading them. What is the most common capacitor used to upgrade to? Edited June 6, 2021 by canuckaudioguy 1
Silver Audiophile Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 Spoke to Kiat Low (CEO Duntech Speakers), on a unrelated matter. Found out he has a pair of Demo Duntech Signature Senators for sale. If anyone is hunting a pair, contact him directly. Contact details could be found on the Duntech website. 1
frednork Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 5 hours ago, canuckaudioguy said: The person repairing the woofers for my Marquis got back to me and told me he has suitable voice coils on hand to repair them. So, they will be repaired pretty soon. They're likely somewhat different than the originals but the impedance will be close. I will probably use 1 original and 1 repaired per cabinet to even it out. Anyway, the great news is they'll be functional again! I'm investigating the crossovers and note a lot of people seem to like upgrading them. What is the most common capacitor used to upgrade to? Picture tells a thousand words, these were fully done by Duntech On 24/06/2017 at 7:15 PM, unclemack said: Well. The new Kiat built crossovers for the Crown Prince are done. Should have them with me in a couple of weeks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 1
Kevin_R Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 On 06/03/2020 at 5:25 PM, Guest jakeyb77 said: Yeah I know. Puts you off. Looks like a relative thinks he has a gold mine. Reality will have to settle in eventually. But in its day, all working. Would have been spectacular I now have the Krell KAS amps for nearly a year now. Didn't pay anywhere near $24K - only about 1/4 that. I live fairly close by where the Amps were being sold, which was great for transport I took a punt and found that the battery in the remote was flat. They work very well with the only problem I have noticed is that one of the meters is reading low. They currently drive a pair of Princess PCL 1100. I also have a FBP-600c and think the KAS actually sound a little better. Kevin 1
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