tubularbells Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 @kelossus Now im wondering whether mine can be improved also by redoing this. Given the fact mine are an older series than these they either got lazier or better WRT the crossover build. If you could PM me approx. cost id be very grateful mate.
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 On 31/12/2022 at 5:23 AM, tubularbells said: @kelossus Now im wondering whether mine can be improved also by redoing this. Given the fact mine are an older series than these they either got lazier or better WRT the crossover build. If you could PM me approx. cost id be very grateful mate. Expand I knew your spidey senses would peak when this was posted 1
kelossus Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) On 31/12/2022 at 5:10 AM, Jakeyb77_Redux said: lovely work from Nigel as always. But, what do you think now Chris? Expand Very happy with the outcome. I don't know if it could be called an upgrade, I can only remember the last time I heard them, not the first time. Just having them working properly was worth the cost. Edited December 31, 2022 by kelossus 1
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 That’s the main thing and as long as you’re happy that’s what counts!
tubularbells Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) Here's an interesting one regarding the Sov's. Seems like the crossovers were changed along the way also through V1, 2 &3. This is a pic of the crossover in @kelossus pair And this is what mine look like Besides the fact mine have a bunch of additional resistors for the 3x 1db bass reduction switches that they removed in later editions I wonder why the layout and parts were changed so dramatically over a short period of time? Also going to be a bugger for me to identify some of those unbranded parts to determine "correct" values if I ever wanted to freshen it up. Edited January 1, 2023 by tubularbells
kelossus Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 On 01/01/2023 at 8:29 PM, tubularbells said: Besides the fact mine have a bunch of additional resistors for the 3x 1db bass reduction switches that they removed in later editions I wonder why the layout and parts were changed so dramatically over a short period of time? Also going to be a bugger for me to identify some of those unbranded parts to determine "correct" values if I ever wanted to freshen it up. Expand Mine were built around 1989 based on the date codes of the caps. Nigel did post a complete parts break down on DIY Audio. 1
Whites Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 @tubularbells Interesting photos. What is all that stuff on the components, looks like silicon? Is it to stop vibration ?
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 On 30/01/2023 at 6:27 AM, Whites said: @tubularbells Interesting photos. What is all that stuff on the components, looks like silicon? Is it to stop vibration ? Expand Usually hot glue to keep them all in place 1
tubularbells Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Yep just a ton of hot glue to stop any vibration although it isn't necessary as most (if not all) larger Duntech speakers have there own sealed compartment which houses the crossover. 2
Xylotuol Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Hello, I have just acquired a pair of DUNTECH Marquis DCL-500 here in France (it's a rarity!!!). I would like to have information on this model and in particular the speakers used. Hello from Toulouse (France) Xylo 1 1
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 On 01/03/2023 at 10:53 AM, Xylotuol said: Hello, I have just acquired a pair of DUNTECH Marquis DCL-500 here in France (it's a rarity!!!). I would like to have information on this model and in particular the speakers used. Hello from Toulouse (France) Xylo Expand They used Vifa but @Silver Audiophile had some with Morel drivers also. I’m sure others will know more
zenikoy Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 I was scrolling the local Swiss "Ricardo" auction website and was surprised to find 2 sets of Duntechs listed at the moment. Add 50% to get the $A equivalent pricing Duntech Viscount D200 https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/duntech-'viscount-d200'-lautsprecher-1222355902/ Duntech Black Knight (a long way from home) https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/duntech-black-knight-highend-lautsprecher-1202315338/
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 On 02/03/2023 at 10:12 AM, zenikoy said: I was scrolling the local Swiss "Ricardo" auction website and was surprised to find 2 sets of Duntechs listed at the moment. Add 50% to get the $A equivalent pricing Duntech Viscount D200 https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/duntech-'viscount-d200'-lautsprecher-1222355902/ Duntech Black Knight (a long way from home) https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/duntech-black-knight-highend-lautsprecher-1202315338/ Expand Let me know if you see any Dynaudio 24W75 mate! 1
Xylotuol Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 In germany : https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/dynaudio-24w75-x08-tieftoener/2368934658-172-9390
Xylotuol Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 in nederland: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/275627585944?hash=item402caf3198:g:M54AAOSw26ljxcM-&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoICyuXscQm7XBBG1hrPndaHcu0nn0bZqiZRFUZtXRgy%2FgPi0fIjvHrK6munsJ0dx9z13wHC7WCSSOFHzxkQYr3fKFZD%2B2ex%2BWHeSZj9IRBY8x2WFRdM1PRZD4yixM0A5tEgYIkAB%2FrjSG%2F2xKoJ0Zujagx5gzQO%2FiJZuV5SUpwK9q0KeOv6NLdESiaBwL8a5N3mOh2%2Bq22s2rusd3DK4KeQ%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR865iqbUYQ
Xylotuol Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 in italy: https://www.subito.it/audio-video/woofer-dynaudio-24w75-bari-394553724.htm
sockpuppy Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) Hello everyone I am the proud owner of "the" pair of Duntech Princess 5000 featured here , the ex-owner seemed legit , purchased them from Encel in Richmond in the 90's. I purchased for $2500. It was a difficult decision given the condition thus lots of "unknown unknowns", have wanted a pair of Duntech for a long long time and they just don't come up that much, it's not like every other day a pair of Princess or Sovereigns are on Facebook marketplace. Except for the foam on the drivers, I found the speakers, overall, in very nice condition. The chief concern echoing in my mind was the phrase "There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Rolls Royce". Presently in Tokyo, the first step on return to Melbourne will be obviously getting the 4 base drivers tested and if ok refoamed, if a one or more has failed then I will need to search for replacements. Noted Jakes comment "I thought about it as I have some spare woofers and mids and tweeters but restoring one pair was enough….. ", maybe I will have a new BFF As for components to drive these I am thinking of acquiring Japanese 20-year-old+ Luxman and/or Accuphase components, or am I just asking for more problems? Something like a pair of these Luxman M-06 https://jp.mercari.com/item/m75785651675 or an Accuphase P500L https://mercari-shops.com/products/XAHaP6d4mwLYynrr2YndmK, suggestions welcome for me to look out for. Noted some posts with drivers available in Europe, I am heading over so probably worth buying a spare driver https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/dynaudio-24w75-x08-tieftoener/2368934658-172-9390. What would be the correct driver to purchase? Edited March 4, 2023 by sockpuppy 1
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 04/03/2023 at 1:21 AM, sockpuppy said: Hello everyone I am the proud owner of "the" pair of Duntech Princess 5000 featured here , the ex-owner seemed legit , purchased them from Encel in Richmond in the 90's. I purchased for $2500. It was a difficult decision given the condition thus lots of "unknown unknowns", have wanted a pair of Duntech for a long long time and they just don't come up that much, it's not like every other day a pair of Princess or Sovereigns are on Facebook marketplace. Except for the foam on the drivers, I found the speakers, overall, in very nice condition. The chief concern echoing in my mind was the phrase "There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Rolls Royce". Presently in Tokyo, the first step on return to Melbourne will be obviously getting the 4 base drivers tested and if ok refoamed, if a one or more has failed then I will need to search for replacements. Noted Jakes comment "I thought about it as I have some spare woofers and mids and tweeters but restoring one pair was enough….. ", maybe I will have a new BFF As for components to drive these I am thinking of acquiring Japanese 20-year-old+ Luxman and/or Accuphase components, or am I just asking for more problems? Something like a pair of these Luxman M-06 https://jp.mercari.com/item/m75785651675 or an Accuphase P500L https://mercari-shops.com/products/XAHaP6d4mwLYynrr2YndmK, suggestions welcome for me to look out for. Noted some posts with drivers available in Europe, I am heading over so probably worth buying a spare driver https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/dynaudio-24w75-x08-tieftoener/2368934658-172-9390. What would be the correct driver to purchase? Expand The original in my Princess are 24w75 06 They test at 6ohm Sorry I won’t be parting with any of mine. But each driver was critically matched in the crossover so any new driver will make a difference to the original intention. That could be a very small difference or a large one. @kelossus had his dad check them out and he has stated one driver is broken. I’d trust him given his knowledge so you will need at least one. I would also thoroughly check the scan speak mids X 4 which is also unobtainable. The tweeters come up very regularly. Ask the previous owner to confirm the model of the woofers so you get the exact ones
sockpuppy Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) On 04/03/2023 at 2:43 AM, Jakeyb77_Redux said: But each driver was critically matched in the crossover so any new driver will make a difference to the original intention. That could be a very small difference or a large one. I would also thoroughly check the scan speak mids X 4 which is also unobtainable. Expand "Critically matched", does that mean the crossover is tunable? Or just that Duntech had high quality control and just selected the drivers that exceeded a certain set of metrics? How did you select your replacement drivers? Here is what I could find https://www.ebay.com/itm/403507755313 I noted in your restore thread you replace all the internal wiring and if my reading was correct the cross-overs got rebuild or replaced, maybe I missed the why, were these damaged/failed? From my perspective the set I purchased the boxes are in better condition so I don't think I need to break out the sanders. From what I could see you moved the speaker terminal plate from mid mount to bottom any reason why? Edited March 4, 2023 by sockpuppy
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 04/03/2023 at 7:28 AM, sockpuppy said: "Critically matched", does that mean the crossover is tunable? Or just that Duntech had high quality control and just selected the drivers that exceeded a certain set of metrics? How did you select your replacement drivers? Here is what I could find https://www.ebay.com/itm/403507755313 I noted in your restore thread you replace all the internal wiring and if my reading was correct the cross-overs got rebuild or replaced, maybe I missed the why, were these damaged/failed? From my perspective the set I purchased the boxes are in better condition so I don't think I need to break out the sanders. From what I could see you moved the speaker terminal plate from mid mount to bottom any reason why? Expand From my understanding Dunlavy picked the speakers and matched the crossovers not just to that speaker model but that particular speaker itself. So any change to the speaker or the crossover will deviate from originality. In saying that they are old speakers (your model is older than mine) so parts have to be replaced when necessary. My crossovers were already upgraded with advice from Kiat the owner of Duntech. The drivers were original except the surrounds on the woofers had all been done. This would change the original woofers to some degree. But all things considered they still sound magnificent. The wiring internally isn’t really necessary but I freshened it up just the same. It’s Van Den Hul originally from that I can gather so no slouch. I didn’t change the terminal plate position. On my model Princess that is the original location and the crossover is mounted behind the tweeter. Mine is the model PCL -1100. The cabinets in yours are apparently very good so once all the speakers are sorted you should have a great pair of speakers. It may just take some time and luck to get all the right parts. I would leave the crossovers till last and determine if anything is needed after that. You may find they are ok. If you deviate on the model of the woofer then at least get two the same so you have symmetry on both sides if you get what I mean. Hopefully they are an easy restoration and you get a lot of enjoyment from them. They are a magnificent speaker
saipanboi Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 I hope I am doing this right. I recently bought a pair of Duntech Statesman. Other then the name, I am not familiar with the Series. Is there an owners manual ? Any thing I should know about setting up the speakers and I made several attempts to dig out information regarding this model, but I had zero or minimal return. Can anyone provide a some information regarding this model ? Upgrade possibilities ? I would greatly appreciate any information you can share.
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) On 19/03/2023 at 8:55 AM, saipanboi said: I hope I am doing this right. I recently bought a pair of Duntech Statesman. Other then the name, I am not familiar with the Series. Is there an owners manual ? Any thing I should know about setting up the speakers and I made several attempts to dig out information regarding this model, but I had zero or minimal return. Can anyone provide a some information regarding this model ? Upgrade possibilities ? I would greatly appreciate any information you can share. Expand The manual is available on Hifi Engine Edited March 19, 2023 by Jakeyb77_Redux
saipanboi Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 Thank J, But being in Vietnam, I cannot access HiFi Engine. Could you please download it and send to me? Thank you so much.
Darryl Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 Warren go to page 4 of this thread I posted some pictures of brochures including the Statesman.
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