ArthurDent Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 What is the 'Eleven' below your LP12, Ken? A phono stage? Yes Andy that's the phono stage which fits nicely between the legs of the cut down Lack table. Described here... http://tripp.com.au/phono.htm
andyr Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Yes Andy that's the phono stage which fits nicely between the legs of the cut down Lack table. Described here... http://tripp.com.au/phono.htm Thanks, Ken. Very nice job. Just as you quoted, "You can't get much simpler than this. "! However, if you want to PM your email address, I'm happy to suggest some mods which will improve the sound of that BHL circuit ... although it will make it more complicated. BTW, BHL didn't "invent" that concept of a FET gain stage followed by a passive EQ network followed by a 2nd gain stage - it came out of a 'Silicon Chip' magazine article in the late 80s. (I used a very similar circuit as the basis for my 'Muse' phono stage and as I went through iterations 1 - 4, I know what things will make it sound better. Regards, Andy 1
Tasebass Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) number_9_tt_webbot1.jpg number_9_tt_webbot2.jpg Well He sure ain't saying CHEEESE!!!.....don't think its a crime to smile in a photo!!! Edited July 21, 2014 by Tasebass
Number 9 Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Some might consider that poor form @@Number 9, given you're also a turntable manufacturer (and your commercial interests are not declared in your signature, as per the Website Guidelines). Marc, with great respect, as you are well aware my turntable is still a long way from being a commercial proposition. So at this stage I consider myself a Turntable Experimenter which is a long way from being a Turntable Manufacturer. As for not declaring my commercial interest in my signature, I would be happy to do so when and if I have a genuine commercial interest to declare. As things stand at the moment, my major focus, is the development of the standalone outboard version of the computer system developed to drive the motors in the number nine turntable for commercial release for use with existing turntables. In this process I have been greatly assisted by yourself and members of this community. In particular I would like to thank AndyR., DJB and Duc . The ongoing series of listening tests and access to a system, the quality of which is way out of my budget at this time has allowed me to refine the software and hardware to a level which would have been impossible otherwise. And I am deeply grateful to all involved. My comments regarding the Triangle Art Turntable in this thread were not intended to be a criticism of the turntable performance in any way. The turntable itself as you indicated has some interesting design features and is being manufactured with a great deal of skill and precision. But for me, strictly from industrial design point of view that pedestal base is horrible. Personally I feel that it detracts from the form and function of the turntable itself transforming it from a piece of precision audio equipment into a gaudy statement more about architecture and status. I don't believe that all that shiny gold plating has any bearing on the performance of the turntable, but each to their own. If any of my statements have offended either yourself or other members of the community, I apologise. Edited July 21, 2014 by Number 9 6
Number 9 Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Well He sure ain't saying CHEEESE!!!.....don't think its a crime to smile in a photo!!! Some of the muscles on the left side of my face are not functioning properly as a result of a recent stroke. I did my best. 3
metal beat Posted July 21, 2014 Author Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Lovely plinth for the LP12 - my Naim ARO would look terrific on this Edited July 21, 2014 by metal beat 1
Guest Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 If any of my statements have offended either yourself or other members of the community, I apologise. Not at all. I still maintain you have a commercial interest however, and for the sake of transparency and our readers, all commercial interests should be declared. It's just a simple one-liner, that you'll notice on many of our users' signatures. Let's move on and not detract (more than we have already) from what is a great thread.
ArthurDent Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Thanks, Ken. Very nice job. Just as you quoted, "You can't get much simpler than this. "! However, if you want to PM your email address, I'm happy to suggest some mods which will improve the sound of that BHL circuit ... although it will make it more complicated. BTW, BHL didn't "invent" that concept of a FET gain stage followed by a passive EQ network followed by a 2nd gain stage - it came out of a 'Silicon Chip' magazine article in the late 80s. (I used a very similar circuit as the basis for my 'Muse' phono stage and as I went through iterations 1 - 4, I know what things will make it sound better. Regards, Andy Thanks Andy. Always happy to hear of ways to improve things but these days trying to head the other direction from complexity. Email address is on the page, right hand end of "Phono" title bar, the little icon that sort of looks like an envelope. Well aware that BHL didn't invent the simple 2 FET passive EQ, design has been around a long time. Cheers, Ken
Tasebass Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Some of the muscles on the left side of my face are not functioning properly as a result of a recent stroke. I did my best. WHOOPS!!....my Sincere apologies!! ATBTase. 1
andyr Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Thanks Andy. Always happy to hear of ways to improve things but these days trying to head the other direction from complexity. Email address is on the page, right hand end of "Phono" title bar, the little icon that sort of looks like an envelope. Well aware that BHL didn't invent the simple 2 FET passive EQ, design has been around a long time. Cheers, Ken I found that envelope icon, Ken, so will send you an email. It will be brief as I don't want to waste my time if you are fixated on simplicity (ie. "the other direction from complexity"! ) but by all means reply, if you want more detail. If I can draw an analogy ... an aluminium-framed 'fixie' is certainly less complex than a 24-gear, CF racing bike ... but will not be best thing to use if you compete in triathlons or iron man. Regards, Andy
Tasebass Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Lovely plinth for the LP12 - my Naim ARO would look terrific on this this looks like one of Chris's crafted gems..... http://www.woodsongaudio.com/ 1
Owen Y Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 If I can draw an analogy ... an aluminium-framed 'fixie' is certainly less complex than a 24-gear, CF racing bike ... but will not be best thing to use if you compete in triathlons or iron man. Of course if you value 'road-feel' & comfort more than speed, there is nothing to rival a lugged and brazed, dble-butted steel frame One man's ceiling is..... Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/
andyr Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Of course if you value 'road-feel' & comfort more than speed, there is nothing to rival a lugged and brazed, dble-butted steel frame One man's ceiling is..... Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/ Well, yes - maybe I used the wrong analogy, Owen. All I was trying to say was that I believe the simplest possible component or system will not deliver the finest / most interesting / most exciting musical experience you can have. And delivering the finest / most interesting / most exciting musical experience you can afford is what it's all about, IMO. Andy PS: I know little about bikes - it's my daughter who competes in Iron men comps. Edited July 21, 2014 by andyr
andyr Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Lovely plinth for the LP12 - my Naim ARO would look terrific on this I have a beautiful LP12 plinth made from Tasmanian Myrtle which Vince Hamilton made for me, if you're looking for a new plinth, mb. Send me a PM with your email address if you're interested and I'll send you some pics. Regards, Andy
metal beat Posted July 21, 2014 Author Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) I have a beautiful LP12 plinth made from Tasmanian Myrtle which Vince Hamilton made for me, if you're looking for a new plinth, mb. Send me a PM with your email address if you're interested and I'll send you some pics. Regards, Andy I said it would look good Andy. I did not say it would sound better If I was ever going to do something with the LP12, it would be to remove the plinth like you have done. Edited July 21, 2014 by metal beat
Tasebass Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I said it would look good Andy. I did not say it would sound better If I was ever going to do something with the LP12, it would be to remove the plinth like you have done. NOOOO!.........Now I will just wait for the incoming from Andy 1
andyr Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 NOOOO!.........Now I will just wait for the incoming from Andy Haha, Tase! Andy 1
andyr Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I said it would look good Andy. I did not say it would sound better If I was ever going to do something with the LP12, it would be to remove the plinth like you have done. Yes, but looking good is important, mb. But I found Vince's plinth actually improved the sound of my LP12 - it gave a more solid bass (I think because I specified the use of 30mm planks, not the stock 24mm-thick planks. Of course, the penalty for this was a lot of rebating for the top-plate and armboard - as the outside dimensions were the same as a stock plinth.). And I didn't "remove the plinth" on my 'SkeletaLinn' because I wanted to improve the sound of my LP12 ... my TT came about because I wanted to be able to use Duc's 12" arm on something that was related to what I knew - so which used Linn suspension, bearing & inner/outer platters. Once I got into the design, I realised I didn't need a plinth. Regards, Andy PS: who is that gorgeous bird in your avatar, mb? She beats Turntable's hands down, IMO!
Chill3 Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Thread is show your TT Do so Take the chat elsewhere Please 4
RockandorRoll Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 My VPI Scout II with Dynavector 20x2 HOMC cart and Van Den Hul Thames phono cable Phono stage is the inbuilt one in the Luxman L550AII 16
Dr Good Vibe Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Nice PF 800 ? Edited July 22, 2014 by Dr Good Vibe
Owen Y Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 GT-750 or GT-1000 even Cheers, Owen Dark Lantern blog - http://darklanternforowen.wordpress.com/
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