Have your say.

[betty boop]

or "she'll be right mate" !

or perhaps a builders labourer in work boots giving us a big moon

[laurie]

DrP

I"m getting a "Error downloading codec" gee I really want to see this

anyhow "No probs"

cheers laurie

[Binxx]

Any comments on the "new" flag???

http://www.flagoz.info/index.htm 

This guy was handing out info in Subi this morning...

Ridiculous

I kinda like the Aboriginal Flag

Somehow incoporate the Southern Cross in it or some other thing unique to Australia (Green & Gold?) and then we are on the way

Binxx

[laurie]

I kinda like the Aboriginal Flag Somehow incoporate the Southern Cross in it or some other thing unique to Australia (Green & Gold?) and then we are on the way

Ahh then the Greeks,Italians,Irish,Poms,Lebenese,Malteese,Chinese,Asians ect ect will all want their bit of the flag

cheers laurie

[Binxx]

I kinda like the Aboriginal Flag Somehow incoporate the Southern Cross in it or some other thing unique to Australia (Green & Gold?) and then we are on the way

Ahh then the Greeks,Italians,Irish,Poms,Lebenese,Malteese,Chinese,Asians ect ect will all want their bit of the flag

cheers laurie

Chinese are Asians as well Laurie and the poms already have a part of our flag

On a serious note, yes, you are right they might, but can they justify the request? Comparatively, how long have they been here?

Cheers

Binxx

[betty boop]

well if your talking afghans or the chinese - a lot longer than many others who call them selves aussies !

[DrP]

DrP

I"m getting a "Error downloading codec" gee I really want to see this

anyhow "No probs" 

cheers laurie

www.divx.com get the free decoder at a minimum. The clip is only part of the ad too. I recorded it a few years back from a Ray Martin special, but they cut about half of it

[John_Barber]

well if your talking afghans or the chinese - a lot longer than many others who call them selves aussies !

Good point alebonau,

Quite a few "Chinese" Australians had ancestors come over with the original gold rushes in the 1800's. They can claim to be a couple of generations MORE Australian than a lot of us of Anglo Saxon origin. Same I guess would apply to descendents of the original Afghan camel drivers, as you suggest.

Me, well one of my great grandparents was English born, I'm pretty sure that the other seven were Australian born of Irish or British immigrants, so what's that 3.875th generation Australian ??

The Australian Labor Party's "White Australia Policy" quarantined Australia from significant Chinese immigration for about half a century. So until the Liberal governments in the '60s and '70s started ignoring the WAP, any ethnic Chinese Australians could almost certainly be guaranteed an Australian pedigree of 3 or more generations.

Cheers

JB

[Tweet]

This is such a weird country,most other nations think 'Waltzing Maltilda" is our national anthem,....even ' I call Australia home '.

Why not live with our ideosyncrasies as the 'weird mob ' that we are,it has made us an easy going and generous people ,believing in a fair go

But if you have politians engineering their political aspirations to the detriment of particular groups in the nation,you get discord and rivalry.

We should all share in the wealth of this country and equal rights to all.

C.M

[Santa1503559644]

I reckon our flag should have on it:

Football,Meat Pies,Kangaroos, and Holden cars....well I think the song went that way 

cheers laurie

Football - well, I suppose it represents the circus part of "bread & circuses".

Meat Pies - yep: they dont just represent the "bread" side of the above, but a nice little reference to the dominance of the ad-execs. (Well, "fat, starch, spinal cord, gut-lining, lower-intenstinal-wall and sphincter pies" just doesn't sound so apertising!)

Kangaroos - the way our courts & laws are heading.

Holden cars - a proud General Motors product.

[Santa1503559644]

Any comments on the "new" flag???

http://www.flagoz.info/index.htm  

This guy was handing out info in Subi this morning...

Ridiculous

I kinda like the Aboriginal Flag

Somehow incoporate the Southern Cross in it or some other thing unique to Australia (Green & Gold?) and then we are on the way

Binxx

Yeah, green and gold really do represent a 95% dry and dusty country so well! Must be the Irish influence! Pity Ireland et al are so bereft of green & gold!

[gclark8]

While we are on songs, well we are now, how about the missing verse from "Advance Australia Fair"?

http://www.hamilton.net.au/advance/missing_verse.html

[Santa1503559644]

well if your talking afghans or the chinese - a lot longer than many others who call them selves aussies !

Good point alebonau,

Quite a few "Chinese" Australians had ancestors come over with the original gold rushes in the 1800's. They can claim to be a couple of generations MORE Australian than a lot of us of Anglo Saxon origin. Same I guess would apply to descendents of the original Afghan camel drivers, as you suggest.

Me, well one of my great grandparents was English born, I'm pretty sure that the other seven were Australian born of Irish or British immigrants, so what's that 3.875th generation Australian ??

The Australian Labor Party's "White Australia Policy" quarantined Australia from significant Chinese immigration for about half a century. So until the Liberal governments in the '60s and '70s started ignoring the WAP, any ethnic Chinese Australians could almost certainly be guaranteed an Australian pedigree of 3 or more generations.

Cheers

JB

Actually, its more than likely many Asians settled in Australia well before Captain Cook "discovered" the place - there's considerable evidence of interaction between the islands JUST(!) to the north and the mainland pre-Cook.

Apart from that lot, yes many of the early Chinese Australian dynasties are older than the vast majority of other Australians (in West Australia, the largest component of the population are Poms who came out post WWII).

(BTW: My oz-born (rather than oz-landed) ancestry dates back over 160 years - maybe thats why I get upset at what the Little Bastard is doing to the country...)

[Santa1503559644]

While we are on songs, well we are now, how about the missing verse from "Advance Australia Fair"?

http://www.hamilton.net.au/advance/missing_verse.html

Good God!

Its bad enough as it stands! Adding a "Dubya" verse does NOT improve it!

[Digicruiser]

Maybe we could change the "God Shave the Queen" song and change the Queen to Howard (NOT!) unless Howard is a Queen.

[John_Barber]

Actually, its more than likely many Asians settled in Australia well before Captain Cook "discovered" the place - there's considerable evidence of interaction between the islands JUST(!) to the north and the mainland pre-Cook.

Yep, that is highly likely.

I recently read the excellent book "1421 The Year China Discovered the World", by British Author Gavin Menzies.

This book examines the evidence that the fleet of ships headed by Chinese "admiral" Zhang He, actually "discovered" many parts of the world, and the maps created by the Chinese were referenced by the European explorers.

There is also archeological evidence of Chinese visits to many of these places.

Also there is the interesting fact that the Chinese written language (originally created centuries ago) has a symbol for "Australia".

New Zealand, not quite so. The 3 characters for "New Zealand" in isolation break down to "New, West and Blue". The 2 characters for Australia break down to "Australia, and Australia Continent".

Anyway, have a sticky at the book, it's quite interesting.

http://www.1421.tv/the_book.asp

Cheers

JB

[Digicruiser]

Wasn't there a ship of some Asian country where they weren't interested in the country, but just wanted to get resources from this land - way earlier than Cook?

Just think how different this country would be with a Chinese history and the rest of us migrating to this country... We wouldn't be in the Olympics! Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh!

[Santa1503559644]

Actually, its more than likely many Asians settled in Australia well before Captain Cook "discovered" the place - there's considerable evidence of interaction between the islands JUST(!) to the north and the mainland pre-Cook.

Yep, that is highly likely.

I recently read the excellent book "1421 The Year China Discovered the World", by British Author Gavin Menzies.

This book examines the evidence that the fleet of ships headed by Chinese "admiral" Zhang He, actually "discovered" many parts of the world, and the maps created by the Chinese were referenced by the European explorers.

There is also archeological evidence of Chinese visits to many of these places.

Also there is the interesting fact that the Chinese written language (originally created centuries ago) has a symbol for "Australia".

New Zealand, not quite so. The 3 characters for "New Zealand" in isolation break down to "New, West and Blue". The 2 characters for Australia break down to "Australia, and Australia Continent".

Anyway, have a sticky at the book, it's quite interesting.

http://www.1421.tv/the_book.asp

Cheers

JB

Yeah, I've heard about that. (Though I think it was along the lines of "far fetched theories with little solid evidence") I always think of the constant "aliens landed and built the pyramids of Egypt, MesoAmerica, etc" hoo-ha when I hear these things.

I do remember that the Chinese once had the greatest navy on the planet, and were capable of going anywhere, doing anything, but decided to look inward and opt for a dose of the ol' "splendid isolation" policy....

(PS: I'm also a little sceptical of translations of old foreign languages with widely varying interpretations (eg: "chi chiou" == "small nest of the coo-coo swallow" as well as "a place where gold be found" as well as "land of squatting dragon"...) ... maybe I need another series of that ancient handycam thing in Israel... )

NB: Santa's patron saint is "St Occam of Remington"

[Tweet]

It's all 'Chop Suey" to me !!

C.M

[Santa1503559644]

Actually, ... "St Occam of Remington"

First Americans may have come from Australia: study

Anthropologists stepped into a hornet's nest, revealing research that suggests the original inhabitants of America may in fact have come from Australia.

The claim will be extremely unwelcome to today's native Americans who came overland from Siberia and say they were there first.

But Silvia Gonzalez from John Moores University in Liverpool said skeletal evidence pointed strongly to this unpalatable truth and hinted that recovered DNA would corroborate it.

"This is very contentious," Ms Gonzalez, a Mexican, said at the annual meeting of the British association for the Advancement of Science (BA). "They (native Americans) can not claim to have been the first people there."

She said there was very strong evidence that the first migration came from Australia via Japan and Polynesia and down the Pacific Coast of America.

Skulls of a people with distinctively long and narrow heads discovered in Mexico and California predated by several thousand years the more rounded features of the skulls of native Americans.

One particularly well preserved skull of a long-face woman had been carbon dated to 12,700 years ago, whereas the oldest accurately dated native American skull was only about 9,000-years-old.

"We have extracted her DNA. It is going to be a bomb," she said, declining to give details but adding that the tests carried out so far were being replicated to make sure they were accurate.

She said there were tales from Spanish missionaries of an isolated coastal community of long-face people in Baja California, of a completely different race and rituals from other communities in America at the time.

These last survivors were wiped out by diseases imported by the Spanish conquerors, Ms Gonzalez said.

The research is one of 11 different projects in America, Africa, Asia and the Middle East being funded over a four-year period by Britain's Natural Environment Research Council.

The projects, focusing on diet, dating and dispersal of people down the millennia in the face of climate change, aim to rewrite anthropology.

"We want to make headlines from heads," said Professor Clive Gamble of Southampton university. "DNA will give us a completely new map of the world and how we peopled it."

--Reuters

[laurie]

Well one thing for sure I copped a lot of $hit at school for being a WOG then a few years later I was called a DAGO and finally before I left high school a WOP all because the kids at school ate meat pies/fish & chips and I had salami for lunch.... ah the good old days gee I even remember drinking our daily allowance of milk

cheers laurie

ps my uncle had the same problem as he had a fruit shop so he had this sign put up outside his shop "Buy your fruit here as the DAGO'S [day go] by" LOL he made a mint after that and I learn't a good lesson DON'T fight it laugh it off oh by the way most of the food we ate back those days that were considered WOG food are now part of the Australian diet

[Digicruiser]

Yep, the world ain't proud of their racist views in the past. There's still alot of hurt around the place and have to deal with past war enemies - like I come from a German/Austrian background and I had to "apologise" out of sympathy for my past generations to a Brit who fought in the second world war - that freaked me out when he had this niggly attitude towards me. Thank who ever that these past things are fading, but we still generate new ones in this world.

[laurie]

Yep, the world ain't proud of their racist views in the past

Digicruiser

I think in the end it made me a better Aussie so now we end up with:

Football---------Soccer

Meat Pies-------Pizza

Kangaroos------Dragons

Holden Cars----Toyotas

cheers laurie

[betty boop]

Actually, ... "St Occam of Remington"

First Americans may have come from Australia: study

Anthropologists stepped into a hornet's nest, revealing research that suggests the original inhabitants of America may in fact have come from Australia.

now this really is a worry!

[Digicruiser]

We OWN THEM!!!!!! Bwahahahahaha :ph34r:

Hmmm, our Southern star bit instead of their stars in the corner!!!