Guest Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 How about sealing the wax with some more oil? It will attrack dust and be hard to clean . I hear there's plenty of oil floating around . How's that dog of your's Cheers
Guest yamaha_man Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 It will attrack dust and be hard to clean .I hear there's plenty of oil floating around . How's that dog of your's Cheers Hard to clean? Hmmm, thats for the woman to worry about isn't it? Lots of oil floating around where i have been. Baldrick is ok, still a Paris Hilton though. (high maintenance!)
Guest Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 Baldrick is ok, still a Paris Hilton though. (high maintenance!) He hoar's around and released a video and doesn't wear under ware . Cheers
Guest yamaha_man Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 He hoar's around and released a video and doesn't wear under ware .Cheers Dam strait!
Dr Good Vibe Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 E there is a product made by WEST products that might just do what you want it's resin based. No way to talk about your friends 56 jez !
ENIGMA Posted October 18, 2009 Author Posted October 18, 2009 Thanks Dr, I'm getting really good results now with the oil, but the finish is not like the ones you see on the internet. Looks very nice and natural, but too much time to apply and if you are not carefull, very easy to get a streaky finish. I really believe it is for the split rougher looking slate than the honed one as it looked better on the rough surface. Tried a different product today, gives it the wet look and has a glossy finish. I think i will stick with this one, the slate looks like the ones over seas and the application time is minimal. However, drying time is half a day so it will take a few days to get a really nice finish. Cheers.
Guest Posted October 18, 2009 Posted October 18, 2009 Thanks Dr,I'm getting really good results now with the oil, but the finish is not like the ones you see on the internet. Looks very nice and natural, but too much time to apply and if you are not carefull, very easy to get a streaky finish. I really believe it is for the split rougher looking slate than the honed one as it looked better on the rough surface. Tried a different product today, gives it the wet look and has a glossy finish. I think i will stick with this one, the slate looks like the ones over seas and the application time is minimal. However, drying time is half a day so it will take a few days to get a really nice finish. Cheers. You'll look like Arny when your finished . Cheers
Mick35 Posted October 18, 2009 Posted October 18, 2009 Guys don't use wax on your slate plinths PLEASE!! they will discolour the slate and ruin it's look.
ENIGMA Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 Guys don't use wax on your slate plinths PLEASE!! they will discolour the slate and ruin it's look. The oil has some wax already mixed in it, plus it is the oil specifically made for slate. Both products i have tested are made for slate.
Mick35 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 The oil has some wax already mixed in it, plus it is the oil specifically made for slate. Both products i have tested are made for slate. Hi Enigma, What's the name of the product? Send me a PM if you don't want to publicly name the product, some are very good while others are just plain BAD!!, and should not be used. It won't ruin the slate per say, but the quality and quanity of the wax included in the mixtures vary considerably. After a while the wax will turn the slate yellow, no harm done to the stone, but some heavy caustic cleaning will be needed remove the wax build up from the microscopic pores within the stone. I've had 20 years experience in working with slate and stone products, I've moderated many tiling forums over the years as well. Take it from me there are many so called stone protection products on the market that quite frankly should not be there.
ENIGMA Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 Hi Enigma,What's the name of the product? Send me a PM if you don't want to publicly name the product, some are very good while others are just plain BAD!!, and should not be used. It won't ruin the slate per say, but the quality and quanity of the wax included in the mixtures vary considerably. After a while the wax will turn the slate yellow, no harm done to the stone, but some heavy caustic cleaning will be needed remove the wax build up from the microscopic pores within the stone. I've had 20 years experience in working with slate and stone products, I've moderated many tiling forums over the years as well. Take it from me there are many so called stone protection products on the market that quite frankly should not be there. No problems, i'll pm the two so you can be free to criticise them without any repocussions. We can call the oil product (a) and the sealer product (. Whilst i'm getting great results, i could do with some advice in this area. Both products are expensive and i want to ensure i'm using the right one at te end of the day.
Mick35 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 It's all good guys ENIGMA is doing a splendid job, and is using the highest quality of products to finish his plinths. The product is very EXPENSIVE!!, developed in the UK (We've all heard of Welsh Slate?) They use it on their slate roofs and floors and benchtops, highly regarded in the stone industry as the best money can buy
ENIGMA Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) Thanks Mick35, your advice was very much appreciated. The one recommended is product a - the slate oil. It is tricky to apply in that it can get very streaky, but i'm getting used to it. Mick35 reassurance has given me confidence to learn more about the product and get the best result i can. I must also give Mick 35 a big thanks for his invaluable advice and assistance with techniques in applying the oil. Cheers. Edited October 19, 2009 by ENIGMA
ENIGMA Posted October 24, 2009 Author Posted October 24, 2009 I had a look today at the offcuts of slate that i had oiled & sealed a few days back. It was interesting to note the oiled pieces had turned darker and now look really nice. Some nip & tucks on Jaspers slate & then the oil. I think i will spend a week on the oil to make sure it looks nice. In the mean time, another SP10 plinth is on the cutting machine.
Guest Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Did you get the buff . How about posting the dry fit pic. Cheers
ENIGMA Posted October 24, 2009 Author Posted October 24, 2009 Did you get the buff .How about posting the dry fit pic. Cheers Will get the buff tomorrow. Here you go. Pre oiled. Thanks Jasper for taking & posting the photos. Will be yours very soon.
Mick35 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) That's HIGH quality slate there guys I can tell just by looking at it. SIMPLY GORGEOUS!!! As a side note, and if you wanted a 'WET LOOK' to your slate there is a product called Lithofin MN Flagstone sealant or Lithofin MN Slate Seal. ENIGMA is already using a Lithofin product BTW I highly recommend there products. It might be worth giving it a go for those that would like a higher gloss look on the honed slate. It needs to be applied to honed stone only, it won't take to a polished stone very well. I'll try and find a picture of a slate floor treated with the product. Edited October 24, 2009 by Mick35
ENIGMA Posted October 24, 2009 Author Posted October 24, 2009 Thanks Mick, Lithofin Slate Oil is the one i'm currently using. Do you use the slate seal with the slate oil to get the wet look, or just on its own without the slate oil?
Mick35 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Thanks Mick,Lithofin Slate Oil is the one i'm currently using. Do you use the slate seal with the slate oil to get the wet look, or just on its own without the slate oil? On it's own, it's a separate product. just looking at some further options you might have. The plinths your doing are very HIGH QUALITY and I'm sure that everyone that sees one in the flesh would agree . And as you may well know working with the slate oil takes quite a bit of patient and practice to get it right, there is no easy way as each piece of stone will work differently. What you are doing ATM is CORRECT so don't lose any sleep over it, the slate oil is FOOL PROOF and you can't make any mistakes.
Mick35 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 OK found some jobs using the Lithofin MN Slate seal. As you can see the first couple of pics are of African slate, a highly coloured slate and it's quite porous, but hard. Not as compressed as our local slate. It would be NO good for TT plinths. You can see how the Lithofin 'Intensifies' the colour of the slate. Next couple are of Indian Slate, not as colourful as African, but allot denser and easier to work with. It will hold an edge and not 'Flake' also the layers are tightly packed with very little silt between the layers. Again sealed with Lithofin MN Slate Seal The next one is the more Familar Italian Slate. Very High quality, a 'JOY' to fix, from a tilers point of view
Mick35 Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Lastly a bit of 'FUN'. 'THE FLINTSTONE'S BATHROOM' Whilst not slate, it's natural river stone. You can see the beautiful sheen it gets from the Lithofin MN Slate Sealer, it really brings out the colours
mjsdb Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Hi Everyone, I just thought I`d put in my 2c worth. I have 2x 50mm slate plinths, one for an SP10 and another for a Lenco PTP3. I just sealed it with some decking sealer I had in the shed. I tried slate sealer, olive oil, and some others but prefer the semi flat look and the decking sealer didn`t get streaky. I hope the pics appear, I`m not to sure that I uploaded them correctly. The lenco hasn`t been oiled yet and the SP10 is drying. I can post a pic of the dry SP10 if anyone is interested. Mike.
ENIGMA Posted October 24, 2009 Author Posted October 24, 2009 OK found some jobs using the Lithofin MN Slate seal. As you can see the first couple of pics are of African slate, a highly coloured slate and it's quite porous, but hard. Not as compressed as our local slate. It would be NO good for TT plinths. You can see how the Lithofin 'Intensifies' the colour of the slate.Next couple are of Indian Slate, not as colourful as African, but allot denser and easier to work with. It will hold an edge and not 'Flake' also the layers are tightly packed with very little silt between the layers. Again sealed with Lithofin MN Slate Seal The next one is the more Familar Italian Slate. Very High quality, a 'JOY' to fix, from a tilers point of view Lastly a bit of 'FUN'. 'THE FLINTSTONE'S BATHROOM' Whilst not slate, it's natural river stone. You can see the beautiful sheen it gets from the Lithofin MN Slate Sealer, it really brings out the colours Hi Mick, Thanks for the great photos, it is interesting to see the different colours. Next time i visit the supplier, i will see if i can get a tin of slate sealer. Hi Everyone, I just thought I`d put in my 2c worth. I have 2x 50mm slate plinths, one for an SP10 and another for a Lenco PTP3. I just sealed it with some decking sealer I had in the shed. I tried slate sealer, olive oil, and some others but prefer the semi flat look and the decking sealer didn`t get streaky. I hope the pics appear, I`m not to sure that I uploaded them correctly. The lenco hasn`t been oiled yet and the SP10 is drying. I can post a pic of the dry SP10 if anyone is interested.Mike. Hi Mike, Great job on the plinth, heavy aren't they! Have you listened to the tt yet on the slate?
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