Aloysius Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 You know you're a Thatcherite... I just thought you were a little more proud of it!Come on ... out of the closet with pride! WRT DLS: .... just follow the Santa's sage advice! Drop freakin' DLS altogether! What a beautiful way to unite with fellow Australians ... show them the way to enlightenment! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dear Santa - before you get busy in the next few Santa Specific weeks - keep going about doing good! To reach my advanced stage and then have the great good fortune to have a forum comrade (Santa) reveal to you something you weren't aware of about your self is truly life changing. Merci, Amigo! But back to the issue at hand: Enlightenment - you know - wot U did for me - is basically experiencing more light, of some sort. Now your proposal - condemning my fellow Australians from NSW & VIC - not mention Tassy - to less light by virtue of abandoning DLS, is nothing short of de-enlightenment. You want people to sleep through those soul stirring sunrises! Imagine my shockl and horror to find that Santa is into de- enlightenment! What's the go? Tell me it's just you funning with us all. You can't really mean: "Drop freakin' DLS altogether!" Repent while there is still time Santa. Christmas cometh, we need a little more good will to season your sage advice. You just stay beautiful!!
mello yello Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Illuminatus Rectum.......The All Seeing Brown Eye...
HoffY Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) "Simple answer... Don't fix what ain't broke"Hoffy: It's not broke, it doesn't need fixing. Not having daylight saving is an anachronistic, insular, "I vote for the past" scenario. It's time to change, to improve, to move forward, to move closer together. I live in CQ and say - BRING IT ON!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its got nothing to do with voting for the past, present, or future. I tell ya what... here's a shocking revolation for you; if you want to enjoy more daylight... get the F up earlier! Leave the time how the time is... just because a lot of people are getting lazy and lacking any drive to get up earlier doesnt mean we all have to suffer and try to "change the standrads" due to others incompetence. Next minute we'll be having inbiciles changing metric tapping pitch sizes because people want to screw screws in an hour earlier then what it takes! Sheesh Doesnt matter hwo much you change your clock... a certain time in teh day is always that time in the day regardless of you wanting to think its earlier or not. Kinda like me putting my alarm clock 10 minutes forward. I always know its 10mins earlier so i leave on time anyway, just cant kid myself! LOL EDIT: And yes i do realise the aleged benifits of DLS, but its all giving from one hand and taking from the other anyway. If they dont contradict itself during the winter then its something else that makes them irrelevant. Not turing your lights on for that little bit later in teh day.. but during the cooler seasons (Which is many more months then summer!) the lights go on HOURSSSS earlier so its makes it mute! And thats just one off the top of my head. Edited November 6, 2005 by HoffY
Aloysius Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 Its got nothing to do with voting for the past, present, or future. I tell ya what... here's a shocking revolation for you; if you want to enjoy more daylight... get the F up earlier! Leave the time how the time is... just because a lot of people are getting lazy and lacking any drive to get up earlier doesnt mean we all have to suffer and try to "change the standrads" due to others incompetence.Next minute we'll be having inbiciles changing metric tapping pitch sizes because people want to screw screws in an hour earlier then what it takes! Sheesh Doesnt matter hwo much you change your clock... a certain time in teh day is always that time in the day regardless of you wanting to think its earlier or not. Kinda like me putting my alarm clock 10 minutes forward. I always know its 10mins earlier so i leave on time anyway, just cant kid myself! LOL EDIT: And yes i do realise the aleged benifits of DLS, but its all giving from one hand and taking from the other anyway. If they dont contradict itself during the winter then its something else that makes them irrelevant. Not turing your lights on for that little bit later in teh day.. but during the cooler seasons (Which is many more months then summer!) the lights go on HOURSSSS earlier so its makes it mute! And thats just one off the top of my head. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "if you want to enjoy more daylight... get the F up earlier! Leave the time how the time is... " Good idea Hoffy! I'm up every morning to go to work at 5am 4 am sounds really peachy, thanx for that.
HoffY Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 "if you want to enjoy more daylight... get the F up earlier! Leave the time how the time is... "Good idea Hoffy! I'm up every morning to go to work at 5am 4 am sounds really peachy, thanx for that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly the point. /start DLS mentality. But its actually not 4am... its 5am. You just proved there's no logic in DLS. You just complained about getting up earlier if the time was left as-is. Yet if we "kid" you into thinking its 5am at 4am you'll get up without a problem! sheesh!
Aloysius Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Exactly the point. /start DLS mentality. But its actually not 4am... its 5am. You just proved there's no logic in DLS. You just complained about getting up earlier if the time was left as-is. Yet if we "kid" you into thinking its 5am at 4am you'll get up without a problem! sheesh! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The advantage is at the other end of the day! Sheesh!
HoffY Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 The advantage is at the other end of the day! Sheesh! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not if you dont get up at the start of it. Sheesh
Aloysius Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Not if you dont get up at the start of it. Sheesh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly the point! Sheesh! (or Cheese)
HoffY Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 So stop complaining about having to get up earlyer seems you're pro DLS.
Aloysius Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 So stop complaining about having to get up earlyer seems you're pro DLS. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not complaining. You say I am - that's different. I am pro DLS. I can say so. You are anti DLS. You can say so. Be happy.
ando9185 Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 OK, to celebrate getting up early to utilise the sun at 4am, you are all invited to my place to a barbecue at 3am. Hmm... no takers? I have to get in my socialising before I go to work. I guess the hour of daylight is more useful at night. I know I'm more likely to be up and doing things outside at 9pm than 3am.
HoffY Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 I'm not complaining. You say I am - that's different.I am pro DLS. I can say so. You are anti DLS. You can say so. Be happy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "I'm up every morning to go to work at 5am 4 am sounds really peachy, thanx for that." I took that as sarcasm and there for actually a complaint. Was this not the case? I'm not anti DLS (per-se, the actual idea behind it all is novel but as i mentioned earlier it often cancels itself out anyway so thats all it is.. a novel idea)... i'm anti changing time when time doesnt change. Stop kidding yourselves and if you want more time in the afternoon... get up earlier. No need to "change" time. No matter how much you try to change it - its still the same anyway. I am happy, we dont have it here in QLD
riley454 Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Who cares anyway? Time is just an invented dimension of the Romans. It has no foundation in the natural progression of our world. Time(ie minutes days months years) is irrelevant in nature. The accepted natural year of 28 day month/13 month year was only changed by the Romans for tax purposes. Nature revolves around a 28 day cycle regardless what the calender or TV guide says.(Just ask your wife/girlfriend etc)
DrP Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 OMG. I repent. I was wrong, terribly wrong. There REALLY is a point to daylight savings. I just can't believe how horribly wrong I was. Please everyone, accept my most humble appologies. I hang my head in shame. )--> QUOTE (ABC New Online Wednesday @ November 9, 2005. 4:24pm (daylight savings time )) Qld 'Idol' contestant victim of daylight robbery, says MPA state Liberal parliamentarian has suggested daylight saving cost a young Queenslander his place in a popular televised talent quest. Dan England, 22, was voted off Australian Idol this week. But Liberal MLA Michael Caltabiano told Parliament last night if Queensland was in the same time zone as the rest of the eastern states, there would have been one more hour to vote. And with only 27 votes knocking the popular Brisbane performer out of the competition, he says that hour could have made all the difference. "This Government and their attitude towards not acknowledging the benefits of daylight savings - particularly for the south-east corner and completely ruling it out - has resulted in another casualty, that of dread-locked Dan England," he said. "If the Labor Government kept in sync and kept up with the rest of the country, this disappointing situation would very much not have occurred." Queensland Premier Peter Beattie is turning the heat on to the show's producers, calling for a recount. "Look, we were robbed. Dan was robbed," he said. "I'm asking Channel 10 to wake up to themselves, to turn back the clock to Monday and give him a fair go, they should reopen the voting in Queensland for an hour and it's time that Queensland had a winner on Australian Idol. Now if they do, I'm sure I can find 27 votes within an hour."
HoffY Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 Who cares anyway? Time is just an invented dimension of the Romans. It has no foundation in the natural progression of our world. Time(ie minutes days months years) is irrelevant in nature. The accepted natural year of 28 day month/13 month year was only changed by the Romans for tax purposes. Nature revolves around a 28 day cycle regardless what the calender or TV guide says.(Just ask your wife/girlfriend etc) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice point I dare not ask mine.. its getting close to that time
riley454 Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 OMG. I repent. I was wrong, terribly wrong. There REALLY is a point to daylight savings. I just can't believe how horribly wrong I was. Please everyone, accept my most humble appologies. I hang my head in shame. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Was that a point based on the opinion of a Queensland politician? Well by the history of formers, (ie Joh or Big Russ) ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Adam-O Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 Calls for PM to set daylight saving datesBy Phillip Hudson, Political Correspondent, Canberra The Age November 13, 2005 SENATE President Paul Calvert wants Prime Minister John Howard to invoke federal powers to overhaul daylight saving. The plan would require Victoria to bring forward daylight saving by a month to the start of October and could mean Australia having just two time zones. While the states presently decide if and when they have daylight saving, the Tasmanian Liberal senator has written to Mr Howard urging him to use the power in the constitution over weights and measures to "regulate time". Senator Calvert said all states should start and end daylight saving on the same day. At present, Tasmania puts clocks forward one hour on the first weekend in October while Victoria, NSW, the ACT and South Australia make the switch on the last weekend in October. Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory do not have daylight saving. Senator Calvert said the "maze of different times" interrupted work and family balance and was a "real shackle on the economy". He wants the issue raised at a Council of Australian Governments meeting and asked Mr Howard whether the states that do not have daylight saving should adopt it. The proposal could also see the creation of just two time zones — Eastern Time and Western Time, by removing Central Standard Time and aligning SA and NT with the eastern states. Senator Calvert said the existing three winter time zones were created in the 1880s at an international conference in Washington, at which the world was divided into 24 standard time zones. "The cost to our economy of the multitude of time zones and, more particularly, the inconsistent application of daylight saving, would be hard to quantify, but I would imagine it is significant," he said. Senator Calvert said Mr Howard united the states on gun-law reform, the national water policy agreement and corporate and tax changes, and this change would be a "similarly valuable reform". Mr Howard has not formally responded to the letter but last month backed the push for longer periods of daylight saving. "I think daylight savings is terrific. I think it's a great pity that we have this month when Tasmania and NSW and Victoria are on different time zones," he said. "I think NSW and Victoria should start a month earlier. I think Tasmania is showing the lead." Mr Howard said Queensland was a "difficulty" because the south-east part of the state "strongly supports" daylight saving but the rest of the state was just as strongly against it. Source: http://theage.com.au/news/national/calls-f...1578275950.html Adam
Aloysius Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 "I'm up every morning to go to work at 5am4 am sounds really peachy, thanx for that." I took that as sarcasm and there for actually a complaint. Was this not the case? I'm not anti DLS (per-se, the actual idea behind it all is novel but as i mentioned earlier it often cancels itself out anyway so thats all it is.. a novel idea)... i'm anti changing time when time doesnt change. Stop kidding yourselves and if you want more time in the afternoon... get up earlier. No need to "change" time. No matter how much you try to change it - its still the same anyway. I am happy, we dont have it here in QLD <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "I am happy, we dont have it here in QLD" Hoffy seems that you are in a small minority judging by the poll results - I guess they are all wrong?
riley454 Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 What if we all lobby our local MP to eradicate clocks? Would that solve this debate? We could live like the early settlers! And it would make industrial laws sooo grey that you couldn't be sacked if there was a grey safety net. IE: who decides when dawn and dusk actually begins and ends? Your industry boss surely has no real qualifications in meteoroligical time.
ando9185 Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 What if we all lobby our local MP to eradicate clocks? Would that solve this debate? Haven't the TV stations already eradicated the clocks? They never stick to their program times.
DrP Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Hoffy seems that you are in a small minority judging by the poll results - I guess they are all wrong?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's fine. Just cut the SE off QLD and stick it onto NSW. Then the remainder of the state can get back to making all the money on normal time while the SE can be a drain on NSW's budget instead.
riley454 Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 Haven't the TV stations already eradicated the clocks? They never stick to their program times. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do they really have TV in Tassie? Wow and I thought that was an urban myth. When did that happen?
Santa1503559644 Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 Do they really have TV in Tassie? Wow and I thought that was an urban myth. When did that happen? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, they've got TV1, TV2, TV3, C4 and Prime...
ando9185 Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 Yeah, and we only got the 5th channel last year. Oh well, could be worse, we could be watching everything 3 hours behind, like Perth, or 1 hour behind like Queensland. "Oh no, my australian idol vote didn't go through, I didn't read the instructions. We was robbed!"
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