billybob_chider Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 I was just wondering whether anyone knew of the history behind the decision not to give this market a Triple J service. From Mt. Wandera, Classic fm (101.9), Local Radio (103.5) and Radio National (105.1), as well as the Power FM commercial service (104.3) are broadcast. My understanding is that there will be a future service on 89.3 or 90.1 if WIN 3 Narooma clears. As we all know, this will prob. not happen before satellite/digital radio takes over. The ABA (ACMA)'s decision not to allocate JJJ with the other ABC services puzzles me. This could have easily occupied 102.7 long before 2ST at Bowral (102.9), and 102.5 Power FM Brown Mountain. 92.3 could have been another option, again before UUU Shoalhaven Heads took it up. 93.1 is still a viable option. People in this market have to receive JJJ from either Knights Hill or Brown Mountain. Has anyone travelled down there to see what the JJJ reception is like?
Moasaica Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 From Mt. Wandera, Classic fm (101.9), Local Radio (103.5) and Radio National (105.1), as well as the Power FM commercial service (104.3) are broadcast. You're forgetting 2EC on 105.9. They also broadcast from Mt Wandera on the same ERP as Power FM. People in this market have to receive JJJ from either Knights Hill or Brown Mountain. Has anyone travelled down there to see what the JJJ reception is like? Sorry, could not really answer that question. I haven't been down around the Batemans Bay/Moruya area in 6 years. I haven't really checked Triple J back then as I was listening to 2EC & Power FM whilst there, which are both quite decent stations at the time (I'm not too sure how it is now). 2EC's 105.9 (Batemans Bay/Moruya) & 105.5 (Eden) FM transmission broadcasts in 'real' FM stereo, unlike 2ST's FM translators which sounds like a 'fake' FM station, in which it sounds like an AM station being directly re-transmitted on FM. I can get 2EC at night on 765AM from Bega, and plays "A Better Music Mix" from the 60s to Today. The music on 2EC is a bit more upbeat than 2ST, from the last time that I listened to it.
billybob_chider Posted January 26, 2006 Author Posted January 26, 2006 Yes, I did forget 2EC 105.9 . This is the only South East NSW commercial I have picked up from home. I have not got power 104.3. On a good radio, you can get 765 Narooma from Sydney in the daytime. I did this at the SCG carpark on the 4th of Jan. At home, I can't get it with my Sony portable or base unit, only at night, and sometimes 3LO is so strong it interferes. I have never been south of Ulladulla (on the coast). I get 2BA 103.5 on a regular basis, fading in and out morning/night without tropo. Have you ever got any Brown Mtn services from Campbelltown? In case you don't know the freqs; they are: Abc Classic FM 99.3 Triple J 100.1 Radio National 100.9 There is also Power FM 102.5 but given 2MBS you haven't got a hope on a normal radio. I couldn't get 102.5 even at Cooma. The Local Radio service is on 810 khZ, easily r/ble via skywave.
Moasaica Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Have you ever got any Brown Mtn services from Campbelltown? In case you don't know the freqs; they are:Abc Classic FM 99.3 Triple J 100.1 Radio National 100.9 No, I haven't got the Brown Mountain services in Campbelltown. Those frequencies are blocked by Sydney sub-metro community stations like: 99.3 - 2NSB - Chatswood 100.1 - 2HHH - Hornsby 100.9 - 2BFM - Bankstown I don't have much chance on picking them up anyway, but I can already hear those services locally on local frequencies.
matt86 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 No, I haven't got the Brown Mountain services in Campbelltown. Those frequencies are blocked by Sydney sub-metro community stations like:99.3 - 2NSB - Chatswood 100.1 - 2HHH - Hornsby 100.9 - 2BFM - Bankstown I don't have much chance on picking them up anyway, but I can already hear those services locally on local frequencies. Interesting read on the stations down south. I havent been down there for years so I can't really remember whats there. I've never received any of the Batemans Bay services or anything south of Nowra on FM in Syd before. If the frequencies listed above were vactated I still wouldnt get them though because I get the Bathurst stations OK at home. I certain places I can get B Rock over Chatswood.
ant5476 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 I have said it before in other posts but my favorite spot for DXing Am and Fm is the lookout above Garie and in the car park at Garie Beach. From the lookout above Garie and Bald Hill Stanwell park. I have received 91.0Zm Auckland by E hop on my Kenwood Car Stereo. I have also picked JJJ 100.1Mhz from Bega, Cooma once at very low siganl strength. ABC Fm 101.9 and ABC local radio 103.5 are at medium to low strength. The car park at Garie is great because Sydney am is at low to medium to strength and allows the regional stations you cannot pickup in Sydney. Here is a list of what is available from this site. 549 2cr - medium strength 603 - strong signal 666 - ABC Canberra - low signal but receivable 765 - 2EC - Low to medium strength 801 - Low to medium strength 810 ABC Bega - low to medium strength 846 - RN Canberra - low signal strength 900 - Low signal strength 918 - 2xl Cooma faint to low signal strength 999 - 2st Nowra - low to medium signal strength 1053 - 2ca - low siganl strength 1143 - 2hd - low signal strength 1206 - 2cc - low signal strength 1233 - 2nc - low signal strength 1314- Very strong signal 1368 - 2gn low signal strength 1431 - strong signal strength 1512 - 2rn Newcastle low signal stregth 1575 - Radio Italia - Wollongong - High signal strength. this is daytime reception. I have noticed am signals from up and down the coast travell well to this location. 1431 2rn can be picked up strongly in the sutherland shire to around Taren Point where in Oatley the signal is very weak. 810 ABC Bega can be picked up in Cronulla in daytime very faintly.
billybob_chider Posted January 28, 2006 Author Posted January 28, 2006 Interesting read on the stations down south. I havent been down there for years so I can't really remember whats there. I've never received any of the Batemans Bay services or anything south of Nowra on FM in Syd before. If the frequencies listed above were vactated I still wouldnt get them though because I get the Bathurst stations OK at home. I certain places I can get B Rock over Chatswood. The Batemans services are easily received in "inland" tropo (where Canberra,Goulburn, Bathurst and sometimes Mt Ulandra can be rx'd). 100.1 HHH is weak at my location (Oatley), so JJJ Brown Mtn could be a goer. 99.3 toggles b/w 2NSB and 2BXS, and 100.9 is completely blocked by 2BCR. The furthest north I have rxed Brown Mountain is Bundanoon.
matt_sydney Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Abc Classic FM 99.3Triple J 100.1 Radio National 100.9 I remember going down to the Merimbula/Tathra area and listening to JJJ on 100.1 and the signal was horrible even though Merimbula is part of the Bega/Snowy Mountains coverage area.
ant5476 Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 JJJ on 100.1 can be received at moderate strength around Cooma to Berridale. The signal is poor from Jindabyne to the snow fields but still can be received in most places in stereo.
dkint3 Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 I have received the Brown Mountain services up here in Newcastle during tropo (though it's usually only a once or twice a year occurence). In relation to billy_bob chider's question, the fact that JJJ doesn't transmit in the Eurobodalla region is (I think) mostly due to what the ABA/ACMA perceives as a lack of available suitable frequencies... (Having said that, JJJ is still not in air in Muswellbrook/Scone either, despite the ACMA clearing both 104.9 and 106.5 for use by the ABC, so $$$$$ could be the other issue). As for suitable freqs from Mt Wandera for the ABC, anything below 93 mhz is out because of WIN 3 at Narooma and other services on the South Coast. Yes, I would have thought 93.1 (and possibly 93.9) as being suitable. Given that Mt Wandera is about 220km south of Wollongong (by road), and 140km south of Nowra, and by operating at 4kw in those directions as per other locally transmitted services, I would have thought that they would be unlikely to cause interference to 941fm at Nowra/Wollongong, or to use of 93.3 in Wollongong as a 2kw service (similar to 105.3 or 106.9 at Brokers Nose in North Wollongong). 102.7 has now gone to a community service at Milton/Mollymook (I believe)... Allocating this freq as high power from Mt Wandera may have the potential to cause problems for 102.5 Power from Bega anyhow..
Moasaica Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 My understanding is that there will be a future service on 89.3 or 90.1 if WIN 3 Narooma clears. As we all know, this will prob. not happen before satellite/digital radio takes over. This will most likely happen from 2010 onwards, in which according to a government report "Digital Television - Who's Buying It?", one of the recommendations is that analogue transmissions is set to be switched off nationwide on 1st January 2010.
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