Expensive Hdmi Cables

[Dondomains]

yep and when thathappens tell them him or her will this cable be working perfectly ones connected? they will say upsolutely.. if it dosnt after you connect try fine that guy and tell it wasnt true.

Most of the times they just do that so you pay more interest obove the normal amount.

They wont give you a expensive cable not a 40.00 cable but most of a 20.00 dollar hdmi cable. But like i said i still need to reveal the hdmi cable myself to see the differents and will sure to post that up afterwards. At the moment it stays with the reds whites and yellow connections.

By the way whats the differents if its a 50.00AU HDMI cable v's 50.00dAU (red-white-yellow cable) ? Im sure both works exactly the same and there for both gives the same line of quality level... maybe not i woulkdnt no about much yet on hdmi cables but if hdmi cable is that bad from the cheap to the expensive ones then why not stick around with the original red-white-yellow connection cable ? these ones never fail unless you brought a 20.00 one.

Good luck with it though

linda

xox

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[AndrewW]

  Dondomains said:

By the way whats the differents if its a 50.00AU HDMI cable v's 50.00dAU (red-white-yellow cable) ? Im sure both works exactly the same and there for both gives the same line of quality level... maybe not i woulkdnt no about much yet on hdmi cables but if hdmi cable is that bad from the cheap to the expensive ones then why not stick around with the original red-white-yellow connection cable ? these ones never fail unless you brought a 20.00 one.

If that is a serious question then you need to go and read the HT FAQ and come back in a couple of weeks once you've read all the linked articles.

[wadeshaqfu]

Linda

Your posts are a chore to read through everytime..... maybe try a spell check once in a while no?

I believe HDMI cables can display 1080p while component cables only display 1080i at best.

Sean

[AndrewW]

  wadeshaqfu said:

Linda

Your posts are a chore to read through everytime..... maybe try a spell check once in a while no?

I believe HDMI cables can display 1080p while component cables only display 1080i at best.

Sean

Well she's not even talking about component, she's talking about composite (yellow, red, white) which are limited to SD resolutions.

edit: and component cables can carry a 1080p signal

[Guest hdteevee]

Oh man, a friend got a HD box for $149, then headed up to harvey norman for a HDMI cable which was also $149 - he laughed so long that he got some rather strange looks in the store...

[Dondomains]

thats about right.. no wonder why hdmi end up costing 300.00 when you can get a HD tuner box for 149.00 but a hd tunar box is the past.. now days screens contains the tunar built in.

Just remember the hdmi cables are just for less messy about and easy to connect. But it works the sdame way as the original cables.. red-white-yellow so dont spend something so much for better viewing.. After all it is a cable for sale and not a fake one that wont work well.. atherwise they will get rid of the cabels that dont work from consumers obviously.

HDMI isnt really a must. They say the quaolity viewing isnt make any differents from cheap to the expensive.. its not going to make the image better or sound.. all that works the same as a cheap cable no do0ught about that. I was told at the store and some ather people say a differeent story.

Good luck with it

Linda'xox

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Edited August 18, 2007 by Dondomains

[AndrewW]

  Dondomains said:

Just remember the hdmi cables are just for less messy about and easy to connect. But it works the sdame way as the original cables.. red-white-yellow so dont spend something so much for better viewing.. After all it is a cable for sale and not a fake one that wont work well.. atherwise they will get rid of the cabels that dont work from consumers obviously.

HDMI isnt really a must. They say the quaolity viewing isnt make any differents from cheap to the expensive.. its not going to make the image better or sound.. all that works the same as a cheap cable no do0ught about that. I was told at the store and some ather people say a differeent story.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you should not be giving advice when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

HDMI gives a "better" picture than composite because:

1. It allows full 1080p resolution (vs 576i for composite), and

2. It is a digital vs analog connection.

Also, HDMI carries audio as well as video, and is the only way to get the full bit rate High Definition audio formats out of HD DVD/BD players that do not have analog outs (and most of them don't).

And ditto on the spell checker (there are 10 speeling mistakes in the two paragraphs I have quoted), if you use firefox it has one built in by default.

[AndrewW]

  Dondomains said:

thats about right.. no wonder why hdmi end up costing 300.00 when you can get a HD tuner box for 149.00 but a hd tunar box is the past.. now days screens contains the tunar built in.

No, the reason that HDMI cables are available that cost $300 or more is because there are always going to be gullible people that listen to the salesman and believe that they need a $300 Monster HDMI cable to go with their $200 STB.

[MACCA350]

Theoretically it shouldn't make a difference which HDMI cable you buy because they should ALL work correctly.

HDMI is not like normal RCA cables in that HDMI is a licensed product. HDMI specifies a minimum performance standard and to be able to use the HDMI trademark a cable company needs to have their cable tested by a HDMI Authorized Testing Center. Cable length is irrelevant as long as the cables meet the minimum performance standards they can receive the HDMI logo.

The problem is that there are some rip-off companies making fake cables and illegally using the HDMI logo. HDMI know about this and do their best to stamp this sort of thing out.

Here is a list of manufacturers who make approved HDMI cables and other HDMI products(known as HDMI Founders and Adopters). If the company the cables you are looking at are not named there it may mean that the company uses a OEM company to produce the cables or they used another company name to become an HDMI Adopter, it does not necessarily mean that the cables are not authorized.

As I said HDMI is a licensed product and has specified minimum standards, so if your cable doesn't work take it back and they should replace it as it is either faulty of a fake

more info

cheers

[Dondomains]

Will see how it goes ones i try out the hdmi cable but i wouldnt no which one to buy.. firstly do all hdmi from all different brands and different level price do work well for a plasma to a dvd recorder or do i have to look for a (spesific) HDMI cable that says for dvd recorder to plasma? just like how it says for these red-yellow-white cables on the package says video and or tv or such.

Wills ee how it goes.. erhaps when i get tot he store i will jsut crap one whatever is there infront of me suppose but i sure wotn be spending heaps for just one little cable.. 300.00 is alot of money our days. Maybe aprox 40ish to 50ish is allright price? Have no idea all that (monster) idea cables... its just the title of a brand or i wouldnt no the differents.. If for example the cable you brough did not work you might take it back for a different one maybe or maybe you cant (ones you open the package because you used it for that time)

will see how it goes for i to test them when ready

Linda'

xox

Edited August 18, 2007 by Dondomains

[pgdownload]

Hi Linda,

All HDMI cables are exactly the same and connect in exactly the same way and transmit exactly the same signal - As long as two pieces of equipment have HDMI plugs any HDMI cable will connect them.

As to quality, there is no benefit for buying a $300 (HDMI) cable over a $50 cable (the only people that suggest this are the ones trying to sell you a $300 cable).

Regards

Peter Gillespie

[MACCA350]

  pgdownload said:

Hi Linda,

All HDMI cables are exactly the same and connect in exactly the same way and transmit exactly the same signal - As long as two pieces of equipment have HDMI plugs any HDMI cable will connect them.

Peter Gillespie

From what I've read there are 2 different types of connectors:

1) Standard

2) Mini (for smaller devices)

and there are 2 different cable 'speeds':

taken from here

  Quote

Q. What is the difference between a “Standard” HDMI cable and a “High-Speed” HDMI cable?

Recently, HDMI Licensing, LLC announced that cables would be tested as Standard or High-Speed cables.

* Standard (or “category 1”) cables have been tested to perform at speeds of 75Mhz, which is the equivalent of a 1080i signal.

* High-Speed (or “category 2”) cables have been tested to perform at speeds of 340Mhz, which is the highest bandwidth currently available over an HDMI cable and can successfully handle 1080p signals including those at increased color depths and/or increased refresh rates. High-Speed cables are also able to accommodate higher resolution displays, such as WQXGA cinema monitors (resolution of 2560 x 1600).

cheers

[pgdownload]

  MACCA350 said:

1) Standard 2) Mini (for smaller devices)

Good point.

  Quote

and there are 2 different cable 'speeds':

Lets see, same cable coming out of the same factory, how do we notch up the price again? How about we put a different sticker on some saying its rated at "Hi Speed" and sell those for twice the price? We can also charge cable manufacturers for the privilege of getting the stickers.

Wonder if Harvey Norman staff will have any trouble up selling people to the cable rated at 1080p?

Wonder if all those perfectly working cables already out there will be able to be taken in and get rated?

Regards

Peter Gillespie

[AndrewW]

  MACCA350 said:

and there are 2 different cable 'speeds':

taken from here

As I posted about 5 posts up

[AndrewW]

  pgdownload said:

Lets see, same cable coming out of the same factory, how do we notch up the price again? How about we put a different sticker on some saying its rated at "Hi Speed" and sell those for twice the price? We can also charge cable manufacturers for the privilege of getting the stickers.

Wonder if Harvey Norman staff will have any trouble up selling people to the cable rated at 1080p?

Wonder if all those perfectly working cables already out there will be able to be taken in and get rated?

I can understand where your cynicism comes from, but that link is from the official HDMI specification.

In a similar vein, would you argue that there are no differences between USB 2.0 and USB 1.1 rated cables ?

[MACCA350]

  pgdownload said:

Good point.

Lets see, same cable coming out of the same factory, how do we notch up the price again? How about we put a different sticker on some saying its rated at "Hi Speed" and sell those for twice the price? We can also charge cable manufacturers for the privilege of getting the stickers.

Wonder if Harvey Norman staff will have any trouble up selling people to the cable rated at 1080p?

Wonder if all those perfectly working cables already out there will be able to be taken in and get rated?

Regards

Peter Gillespie

here

  Quote

Q. Will my Standard cable work in high speed applications?

Although a Standard HDMI cable may not have been tested to support the higher bandwidth requirements of cables rated to support high speeds, existing cables, especially ones of shorter lengths (i.e., less than 2 meters), will generally perform adequately in higher speed situations. The quality of the HDMI receiver chip (in the TV, for example) has a large effect on the ability to cleanly recover and display the HDMI signal. A significant majority, perhaps all, of the HDMI TVs and projectors that support 1080p on the HDMI inputs are designed with quality receiver chips that may cleanly recover the 1080p HDMI signal using a Standard-rated HDMI cable. These receiver chips use technology called “cable equalization” in order to counter the signal reduction (attenuation) caused by a cable. We have seen successful demonstrations of 1080p signal runs on a >50 ft. cable, and a 720p signal run on a >75 ft. cable. However, the only way to guarantee that your cable will perform at higher speeds is to purchase a cable that has been tested at the higher speeds.

May not be all hot air

cheers

[Dondomains]

  pgdownload said:

Hi Linda,

All HDMI cables are exactly the same and connect in exactly the same way and transmit exactly the same signal - As long as two pieces of equipment have HDMI plugs any HDMI cable will connect them.

As to quality, there is no benefit for buying a $300 (HDMI) cable over a $50 cable (the only people that suggest this are the ones trying to sell you a $300 cable).

Regards

Peter Gillespie

Hello pg good to see you.

Yes thats exatcly right what i believe aswell these willing to show you 100 to 300dollars hdmi cabels are the retailers wanting you to do business with them so there for they make a nice profit out of you and you dont get nothing but the item you brought and all that spending you just made was bad all the way. I would rather spend like what pg said then spend so much for a hdmi cable. Its not going to make a good hdmi 100 to 300dollar cable so increadibly good.. no differents what so ever to a 50.00dollar cable.

I cant understand why people spend rediculours amount of money and the next moment they say they aint satisfaction bad cable at 200dollars.. try think again spend a genoune fair amount at about lets say 50.00 and you will sure to get the same high grade quality.

With all that said to all hdmi cable pricese at a same lenth it does put you thinking that the retailers wants you pocket money right now.

I dont no but i sure wouldnt spend that amount of cash for a hdmi cable.. beleive it or not it does the same as good as a 50.00 cable just like how pg said.

Linda

xox

[Dondomains]

  MACCA350 said:

From what I've read there are 2 different types of connectors:

1) Standard

2) Mini (for smaller devices)

and there are 2 different cable 'speeds':

taken from here

cheers

Great thanks for that;

linda'xox

[AndrewW]

  Dondomains said:

I dont no but i sure wouldnt spend that amount of cash for a hdmi cable.. beleive it or not it does the same as good as a 50.00 cable just like how pg said.

*cough* spell checker *cough*

Look, this thread has gone around in circles about 5 times now.

The general consensus is that you should spend not too little and not too much when purchasing HDMI cables.

There have been at least 3 reputable suppliers mentioned in this thread that are know to sell quality cables at a decent price, and back that up with excellent after sales support if for some reason the cable doesn't work.

I'm really not sure how much more value can be added to this thread (or the 5 or so other existing threads that all cover exactly the same information).

[MACCA350]

  AndrewW said:

*cough* spell checker *cough*

I second that........Linda, your posts are so hard to understand.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but is English your second language?

It's just very hard to follow what you're saying.

cheers

[Nevyn72]

  AndrewW said:

edit: what are you wearing ?

Bugger that!

What are you smoking?

I want some!!

[Skid_MacMarx]

  AndrewW said:

That is not entirely true.

I bought a cheaper HDMI cable that was absolute rubbish, lots of sparklies in the picture.

Having said that, spending huge amounts is a waste.

For 1m-3m cables, a budget of around $20-$30 is good.

For a 10m cable, around $100 is about right.

This is all IMHO, and based on my experiences.

back on topic..

I would go with what Andrew's saying.. also you must shop around ... I picked up a 1.5m Sony cable to go between the LCD and PS3 .. it normally retailed for about $70 -$100 over the counter at the time I purchased it (back when PS3 was launched) and I checked on line .. found the best I could get from ebay was $50 -$60 and then checked other online local dealers and got it brand new and delivered for $35.. don't expect you'll get the best value from ebay.

i've had no trouble with it.

[AndrewW]

  Skid_MacMarx said:

back on topic..

I would go with what Andrew's saying..

Thanks Skid

Unlike some I was doing my best to add some sensible advice to the thread.

[mwd]

I think all this Expensive HDMI rubbish should be in the Home Theatre Section.

[AndrewW]

  mwd said:

I think all this Expensive HDMI rubbish should be in the Home Theatre Section.

Because nobody would be interested in connecting a device to their HDTV or HD Capable Display via HDMI ?

edit: If you feel that strongly about it report the thread and see if the mods move it.