Australian Player Price Drops!

[dogsrus]

you have to ring them and talk to someone in redemptions to get them to activate it. Once you have done that you can do the forms online

Thanks

[Battler009]

you have to ring them and talk to someone in redemptions to get them to activate it. Once you have done that you can do the forms online

you can also email, they are very prompt at fixing it, just not so promt to send out discs

[Cozzmo]

How long is it taking them to send out the discs?

[xxredshiftxx]

Try 3 months

[Cozzmo]

Well i guess if there is an upside, at least they're honoring the redemption... eventually...

[AndrewW]

Try 3 months

I got my EP10 discs in a couple of weeks ... still waiting months later for the $100 cashback though

[xxredshiftxx]

I got my EP10 discs in a couple of weeks ... still waiting months later for the $100 cashback though

We ALL know how lucky you are AndrewW,can you buy a lotto ticket for me if I give you the money?

[Pfeff]

I got my EP10 discs in a couple of weeks ... still waiting months later for the $100 cashback though

When did you buy your EP10 Andrew? I got mine in mid-Oct and got both discs after about 4 weeks and the $100 in early Dec (say 6-7 weeks). I thought you got yours about the same time. Have you chased them up again recently?

[AndrewW]

When did you buy your EP10 Andrew? I got mine in mid-Oct and got both discs after about 4 weeks and the $100 in early Dec (say 6-7 weeks). I thought you got yours about the same time. Have you chased them up again recently?

Yeah In contacted them and they told me that nobody would get their money until at least 45 days after the close of the promotion.

They didn't have an answer when I pointed out that many people had already received it

[ledge]

Picked up XE-1 for $530, after 3 seconds of negotiation. Was on lunch break so didn't bother pushing for another few bucks.

where from. ?

[HoffY]

I got mine 29th Nov (EP-10). Got 100 CashBack about two weeks ago. Still no sign of free HD-DVDs. Claim check form online shows no change since it was "verified" or whatever it said.

Looks like the HD-DVD camp are going to prove just as painful as the free BD camp for me. i want my freebes! *cries*

[David Robinson]

where from. ?

JB Southland

[denzil1]

Some of the advantages of the 705 are 3 HDMI inputs rather than 2, plus an extra optical and coax input, an optical output, full set of pre-amp outputs (for external amps etc), a Phono input (big whoop!), 7 band over 5 band equaliser, more crossover settings, Audyssey MultiEQ equaliser (8 microphone positions) rather than only 2 on Audyssey 2EQ on 605, slightly more power (only 10w), THX Select certification (605 has no THX cert), 3 DSP chips vs 1 meaning more listening modes and the ability to matrix 5.1 sources into 7.1 (ie create surround back channels) - 605 cant do this and is a big deal if you plan on having a 7.1 setup as alot of material even on BluRay/HD-DVD is only 5.1 channel, and on the 605 your surr back speakers wont get any output. It also has stuff like an RS232 port for home automation, an IR port input for wired remote repeater systems, and a 12V trigger and proper binding posts for zone2 speakers. It also gets the fully programmable and backlit remote (605 remote is a POS comparatively, though i use a Harmony these days anyway), and of course we mustn't forget the blue light around the volume dial

To me it's worth the extra money (can pick them up for $1250 - $1300) however the 605 does do much of what the 705 can including all the same video processing and HDMI switching etc, and decoding the latest audio codecs (except foor matrixing 5.1 to 7.1 as mentioned above), and if you are on a budget and can live without the extra inputs/outputs and flexibility of the 705, and will only be running 5.1 system it is still a decent option

Sorry to keep taking this thread off topic, first it was BluRay players, now receivers!

ahem... so how about those crazy low prices on XE1s at the moment eh?

Well thanks a million for that epic explanation. I'm sure you'll be forgiven for expanding the topic to receivers for a moment as most of us on this forum are seeking 'better' and 'ultimate' sound from our HD DVD experience and the receiver is integral. As is the Tosh XE1. In my long search through Blue Ray as well as HD I've swung back to the Tosh HD and the XE1 with the better HQ Reon Processor, because of its tecb and quality merits. and upscaling abilities.No BRays can offer any reliable sound output of ALL codecs. Critically and review wise they are a mess. And yes the price made up my mind to buy..Picking up tomorrow. Temporarily I'm going in to a Denon receiver via 5:1 Analogue. Another reason for the Tosh XE1. I'll now start shopping for the Onkyo 705..Any pricing indicators from anybody will be welcome. What a forum! How lost we'd be if we had to rely on salespersonages. (some exceptions)

Thanks so much

Denzil

[scarecrow420]

Well thanks a million for that epic explanation. I'm sure you'll be forgiven for expanding the topic to receivers for a moment as most of us on this forum are seeking 'better' and 'ultimate' sound from our HD DVD experience and the receiver is integral. As is the Tosh XE1. In my long search through Blue Ray as well as HD I've swung back to the Tosh HD and the XE1 with the better HQ Reon Processor, because of its tecb and quality merits. and upscaling abilities.No BRays can offer any reliable sound output of ALL codecs. Critically and review wise they are a mess. And yes the price made up my mind to buy..Picking up tomorrow. Temporarily I'm going in to a Denon receiver via 5:1 Analogue. Another reason for the Tosh XE1. I'll now start shopping for the Onkyo 705..Any pricing indicators from anybody will be welcome. What a forum! How lost we'd be if we had to rely on salespersonages. (some exceptions)

Thanks so much

Denzil

you should be able to bargain the 705 down to around $1250 - $1300

regarding audio codecs and BluRay, the Sammy 1400 can bitstream ALL codecs to a receiver like the onkyo, and the only one it cant decode itself is DTS-HDMA... so depending on how long you would be using the analogue output to the denon (and considering most BDs probably have an LPCM track you could use rather than the DTS-MA), if your goal is eventual bitstreaming to 1.3 receiver, this could be an option for you. The other good thing about this one is it is "cheap" at $570 or so, which compared to some +$1000 players that are only profile 1.0 as well, is a pretty good price. So this is currently my pick of BD players for audio features, and I am likely to get one to pair up with my XE1 unless I decide to wait it out a bit (hopefully for a BD price drop maybe!)

Edited February 2, 2008 by scarecrow420

[Cozzmo]

Harvey Normal at the Hills Homemaker Centre at Castle Hill have got at least 5 XE1's on the floor in stock. Didn't ask about discount/best price.

[Chucky2k]

I was looking at an XE1 and spoke to JB Blacktown, they said they still had the xe1 in stock. Have decided to dive in now as I have already 15 titles that i was playing on my laptop. Have been waiting for the right price to buy a stand alone player for a while now.

[denzil1]

you should be able to bargain the 705 down to around $1250 - $1300

regarding audio codecs and BluRay, the Sammy 1400 can bitstream ALL codecs to a receiver like the onkyo, and the only one it cant decode itself is DTS-HDMA... so depending on how long you would be using the analogue output to the denon (and considering most BDs probably have an LPCM track you could use rather than the DTS-MA), if your goal is eventual bitstreaming to 1.3 receiver, this could be an option for you. The other good thing about this one is it is "cheap" at $570 or so, which compared to some +$1000 players that are only profile 1.0 as well, is a pretty good price. So this is currently my pick of BD players for audio features, and I am likely to get one to pair up with my XE1 unless I decide to wait it out a bit (hopefully for a BD price drop maybe!)

More good advice Scarecrow. You state "if your goal is eventual bitstreaming to 1.3 receiver" With the Onkyo I would go the Full HDMI route so that I can decode within the Receiver the Full DTS Master HD whatever codec. This would then give me ultimate picture as well as ALL possible ultimate sound. When you say 'bitstreamng to 1:3 receiver I presume this is what you mean? Bitstreaming but via HDMI? . .and we have two players: The Tosh for HD and upscaling normal DVD's and the Samsung 1400 for Blue ray..Right?

again appreciated

Denzil1

Edited February 2, 2008 by denzil1

[scarecrow420]

More good advice Scarecrow. You state "if your goal is eventual bitstreaming to 1.3 receiver" With the Onkyo I would go the Full HDMI route so that I can decode within the Receiver the Full DTS Master HD whatever codec. This would then give me ultimate picture as well as ALL possible ultimate sound. When you say 'bitstreamng to 1:3 receiver I presume this is what you mean? Bitstreaming but via HDMI? . .and we have two players: The Tosh for HD and upscaling normal DVD's and the Samsung 1400 for Blue ray..Right?

again appreciated

Denzil1

yup... bitstreaming means sending the compressed signal; be it regular DD or DTS like most DVD players will do over optical/coax SPDIF nowadays, or for the latest lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-HR and HD-MA only HDMI can do this. Bitsreaming simply means the signal is not decoded in the player and is instead sent compressed to the receiver and the receiver does the decoding - it has nothing to do with the cable/format being used. The 1.3 i mentioned refers to the HDMI 1.3 spec, which is required to bitstream those latest lossless codecs (earlier specs eg 1.2 do not support bitstrweaming, only the player decoing it and then sending uncompressed PCM over HDMI). So yes you are correct in that the setup I am proposing will use a Tosh XE-1 HD-DVD player and a Sammy BD-P1400 BluRay player, both of which have HDMI 1.3 and full support for bitstreaming all current audio codecs to a receiver like the onkyo 705. As you say this gives "the best sound possible" and also the best video possible 1080P and both player support 24 frame mode for 1080P output as well... the only downside is the sammy BluRay player not ebing profile 1.1 compliant but its not a big deal to me

Incidentally I picked up my XE-1 today, along with my new 46" Samsung F81 LCD (was a surprise the TV had arrived). This was too close to 5pm to go out and buy any HD-DVDs though, so tonight we will be watching Chronicles of Riddick which came in the box with the XE-1. I have just finished applying "special" firmware 2.5.1 for region free SD-DVD playback and am currently doing the network update to the latest 2.8... then will be ready to roll

Edited February 2, 2008 by scarecrow420

[mgrobins]

I'm still negotiating with HN over re-processing my puchase since I bought it only 2-3 weeks prior to the price drop. Looking at 2 avenues with one ofhte more senior sales staff.... seeing what Toshiba will offer (I gather the store still holds some stock too) and the "price gaurantee" - which may not apply if my HN store drop there price themselves (so I can't use them as the price comparison I think) but I will try to use another HN store or another dealer in Brisbane who sells the XE1.

Can anyone supply the name of a store in Brisbane that stocks the XE1 as a regular item? I know JB chermside and Indooropilly don't. I just need the name for pricing purposes to demonstrate I can buy it from a store-front.

Great news on the purchase Scarecrow.... you will really enjoy the player and HD.

[AussieBlu]

I'm still negotiating with HN over re-processing my puchase since I bought it only 2-3 weeks prior to the price drop. Looking at 2 avenues with one ofhte more senior sales staff.... seeing what Toshiba will offer (I gather the store still holds some stock too) and the "price gaurantee" - which may not apply if my HN store drop there price themselves (so I can't use them as the price comparison I think) but I will try to use another HN store or another dealer in Brisbane who sells the XE1.

Can anyone supply the name of a store in Brisbane that stocks the XE1 as a regular item? I know JB chermside and Indooropilly don't. I just need the name for pricing purposes to demonstrate I can buy it from a store-front.Great news on the purchase Scarecrow.... you will really enjoy the player and HD.

Clive Peeters Aspley have (had?) floor stock

[scarecrow420]

Clive Peeters Aspley have (had?) floor stock

Clive Anthony's Carseldine had 1 left after i got mine yesterday for $529

[jimmmy]

I'm still negotiating with HN over re-processing my puchase since I bought it only 2-3 weeks prior to the price drop. Looking at 2 avenues with one ofhte more senior sales staff.... seeing what Toshiba will offer (I gather the store still holds some stock too) and the "price gaurantee" - which may not apply if my HN store drop there price themselves (so I can't use them as the price comparison I think) but I will try to use another HN store or another dealer in Brisbane who sells the XE1.

Can anyone supply the name of a store in Brisbane that stocks the XE1 as a regular item? I know JB chermside and Indooropilly don't. I just need the name for pricing purposes to demonstrate I can buy it from a store-front.

Great news on the purchase Scarecrow.... you will really enjoy the player and HD.

I talked to two different HN stored about the Xe1. Both said $1300 and knew nothing about the price drop. This was last sunday when both CP and JB knew all about it and were selling them like hotcakes. The sales drones at HN and usually midle aged sad pricks who don't care about or know anything about what they are selling. The younger people at JB etc at least keep up to date and know what they are selling

cheers

James

[denzil1]

yup... bitstreaming means sending the compressed signal; be it regular DD or DTS like most DVD players will do over optical/coax SPDIF nowadays, or for the latest lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-HR and HD-MA only HDMI can do this. Bitsreaming simply means the signal is not decoded in the player and is instead sent compressed to the receiver and the receiver does the decoding - it has nothing to do with the cable/format being used. The 1.3 i mentioned refers to the HDMI 1.3 spec, which is required to bitstream those latest lossless codecs (earlier specs eg 1.2 do not support bitstrweaming, only the player decoing it and then sending uncompressed PCM over HDMI). So yes you are correct in that the setup I am proposing will use a Tosh XE-1 HD-DVD player and a Sammy BD-P1400 BluRay player, both of which have HDMI 1.3 and full support for bitstreaming all current audio codecs to a receiver like the onkyo 705. As you say this gives "the best sound possible" and also the best video possible 1080P and both player support 24 frame mode for 1080P output as well... the only downside is the sammy BluRay player not ebing profile 1.1 compliant but its not a big deal to me

Incidentally I picked up my XE-1 today, along with my new 46" Samsung F81 LCD (was a surprise the TV had arrived). This was too close to 5pm to go out and buy any HD-DVDs though, so tonight we will be watching Chronicles of Riddick which came in the box with the XE-1. I have just finished applying "special" firmware 2.5.1 for region free SD-DVD playback and am currently doing the network update to the latest 2.8... then will be ready to roll

All makes good sense. Riddick should knock your socks off. Great imaging..(and that's all that's great) plus the sound of course. Let's know how it goes. I am now however a tad confused. You've guided me (us) regarding Sound codecs and Receiver qualities. You've made extra good sense and your way with words is impressive. Concise and simple to undetstand technowrite and an obvious excellent understanding of what the technology 'does' rather than what it is. However you mentioned the arrival of your LCD screen. I'd have thought that with such good communication and high standard quality appreciation that you would aim for the best PQ. Plasma?

Regardless of this fall from grace we should continue to chat.

Thanks again and with my tongue in my cheek

Denzil1

[kopthat]

Got mine from Clive Peters McGreggor today for $530 had to push the salesman a little but all good

So what next ?

[denzil1]

All makes good sense. Riddick should knock your socks off. Great imaging..(and that's all that's great) plus the sound of course. Let's know how it goes. I am now however a tad confused. You've guided me (us) regarding Sound codecs and Receiver qualities. You've made extra good sense and your way with words is impressive. Concise and simple to undetstand technowrite and an obvious excellent understanding of what the technology 'does' rather than what it is. However you mentioned the arrival of your LCD screen. I'd have thought that with such good communication and high standard quality appreciation that you would aim for the best PQ. Plasma?

Regardless of this fall from grace we should continue to chat.

Thanks again and with my tongue in my cheek

Denzil1

Another query for Scarecrow. IF we play back HD DVD on our new Toshiba XE1 and use the Optical TOS sound outlet in to the Denon Optical sound input (much the same as we do now for standard DVD's from my existing Denon 3800DVDSACD player) will we get a substandard or low bandwidth result. A result which might be just a little better than standard DVD because of the better originating quality signal. Or just the usual 5:1 Dolby Digital result. I noted that when we played back our HD discs from the MS 380 HD Player ($160) via optical sound connection the sound was an improvement on what I'd been used to. I'm not suggesting this as an option to the best that we've discussed, just interested in what might be the result.

I suppose ithe next subject we'll be discussing in a cuppla weeks will be the SW LF BASS renditioning when I connect the Tosh to the 5:1 Denon via Analogue Outlet.. I've read many probs and queries on this subject.. Not yet though It may well just simply work.

Denzil