New Cocoon 5.8gh Av Sender Problem

[trebo36]

I purchased a 5.8GH Cocoon AV sender ('AVS58') this afternoon. It was to be a replacement (to avoid 2.4GH wi-fi modem etc interference) for a 2.4GH ('GigaAir') sender used to transfer Foxtel to a 2nd TV in bedroom.

I connected the new sender in much the same way as the old sender, using a scart connector output from a Pana DVD/hard disk recorder. The Pana receives Foxtel input from an IQ2 box via scart.

New sender video worked OK but I now have only right audio channel/speaker output from the Pana (and at 2nd TV) when the Pana is 'passing through' the Foxtel signals. I made no setup changes in my amp, Foxtel or Pana setup menus. All prerecorded files on the Pana also now only play back through the right speaker channel. I have 'lost' the centre, left & rear channels. COULD THE NEW SENDER HAVE CAUSED THIS?

The Pana audio/video output is hdmi to a hdmi switch box and then to plasma panel. Optical audio out from the Pana is now also right channel only.

I realise I can connect the sender direct to the 'TV' scart out of the IQ2 but I am now hestitant to do this given it MAY also stuff up the IQ2 box?

All suggestions appreciated thank you. On Monday I will of course be in contact with Cocoonsystems support.

[loony]

I purchased a 5.8GH Cocoon AV sender ('AVS58') this afternoon. It was to be a replacement (to avoid 2.4GH wi-fi modem etc interference) for a 2.4GH ('GigaAir') sender used to transfer Foxtel to a 2nd TV in bedroom.

Were you actually experiencing any interference issues?

AV senders are pretty directional so unless you are pointing them across the antenna on your router they shouldn't interfere with it.

Even your microwave (which i know is not on 24*7) operates using 2.4ghz to heat food. The difference being it is outputting about 1500 watts of power compared to the 40-100 milliwatts of your router.

If there was interference your router will give you a list of 13 wifi channels you can use.

If the old 2.4ghz gave you no issues (or issues are resolved after changing your wifi signal) you could save a few dollars and return the Cocoon..

The Pana receives Foxtel input from an IQ2 box via scart.

The Pana audio/video output is hdmi to a hdmi switch box and then to plasma panel

Is there a reason you are using scart output form the IQ2 box?

Doing so will not deliver a HD picture to your TV

New sender video worked OK but I now have only right audio channel/speaker output from the Pana (and at 2nd TV) when the Pana is 'passing through' the Foxtel signals. I made no setup changes in my amp, Foxtel or Pana setup menus. All prerecorded files on the Pana also now only play back through the right speaker channel. I have 'lost' the centre, left & rear channels. COULD THE NEW SENDER HAVE CAUSED THIS?

The Pana audio/video output is hdmi to a hdmi switch box and then to plasma panel. Optical audio out from the Pana is now also right channel only.

Have you checked all the connections?

It could just be you have knocked a plug loose somewhere.

Check the scart plug on the IQ2 and also the Red RCA connector on the DVD recorder (which is right channel audio)

I realise I can connect the sender direct to the 'TV' scart out of the IQ2 but I am now hestitant to do this given it MAY also stuff up the IQ2 box?

All suggestions appreciated thank you. On Monday I will of course be in contact with Cocoonsystems support.

I highly doubt it is the actual sender has broken anything.

I you were to run the Scart connection from the IQ2 to your TV you should find there is right channel audio still.

If it was me i would have connected the sender to the scart output on the IQ2 as i do not then need to have the DVD recorder turned on to use the wireless sender.

Edited August 7, 2009 by loony

[trebo36]

I highly doubt it is the actual sender has broken anything.

I you were to run the Scart connection from the IQ2 to your TV you should find there is right channel audio still.

If it was me i would have connected the sender to the scart output on the IQ2 as i do not then need to have the DVD recorder turned on to use the wireless sender.

Thank you Loony. I doubt the sender could have caused the audio problem with the Pana so I will bite the bullet and connect it direct to the IQ2. Surprisingly it used to work through the Pana scart output even when the Pana was turned off.

Here's hoping anyway. Let you know how I get on.

[Basil1503559642]

Thank you Loony. I doubt the sender could have caused the audio problem with the Pana so I will bite the bullet and connect it direct to the IQ2. Surprisingly it used to work through the Pana scart output even when the Pana was turned off.

Here's hoping anyway. Let you know how I get on.

Just a word of caution,i've installed several Cocoon 5.8 in Family and Friends home and they work great,but, the 2 main issues so far,especially if you have young Kids, are 1.,the little switch that changes the channel(1,2 etc) on the bottom of the sender is easily moved and the plastic aerial easily breaks if its dropped or moved. The aerial itself is a piece of wire inside the plastic tube so it will still work if broken but the whole design is cheap and nasty.

[trebo36]

Thank you Loony. I doubt the sender could have caused the audio problem with the Pana so I will bite the bullet and connect it direct to the IQ2. Surprisingly it used to work through the Pana scart output even when the Pana was turned off.

Here's hoping anyway. Let you know how I get on.

All sorted, changed all wiring to another AV outlet on the Pana and audio on all audio channels for Pana playback miraculously returned - took me half the day to find a solution! I do not blame the Cocoon, it seems my Pana's audio output died a few days earlier. Wired the transmitter sender direct to the Foxtel scart outlet instead of Pana.

Quite happy with the Cocoon. After much fiddling the extender works quite well with the IQ2 although Foxtel remote has a limited range on the 2nd TV. PQ is no better though than my 2.4 sender so would advise potential purchasers to buy the cheaper 2.4 unless you have interference issues like me.

Thanks for your help fellas.

[NormanD]

Hey trebo,

I picked up the same unit yesterday and connected it up to my IQ unit via scart to RCA's, then the recevier to the TV in the bedroom via S-Video to RCA's, picture quality was 8/10 but audio was poor at around 2 or 3/10, is your house single or double story.??

Also, did you find that changing the channels on the senders/receivers improved the quality or not, reason I ask is the guy at Dick smith as well as Loony ( thanks ) mentioned that 2.4ghz works better through walls etc due to the lower frequency but 5.8 works better over greater distance, the receiver is in our my bedroom upstairs and is approximately 15 metres distance in between units, I've got the mini dishes pointed as straight as I can get them but becuase of them being on different floors its hard to get a definative straight line.

As I mentioned in my thread, I'll try it on a TV downstairs tonight and try to keep a straight line of sight and see what the quality is like.

cheers

[trebo36]

Hey trebo,

I picked up the same unit yesterday and connected it up to my IQ unit via scart to RCA's, then the recevier to the TV in the bedroom via S-Video to RCA's, picture quality was 8/10 but audio was poor at around 2 or 3/10, is your house single or double story.??

Also, did you find that changing the channels on the senders/receivers improved the quality or not,

cheers

Hey NormanD,

Our house is single story. Distance between sender & receiver is 12 metres, signal goes through one wall only but also through a big fridge and a pantry crammed with stuff including canned food.

I'd say loony could be correct in that 2.4GHz will give a better PQ through walls etc. My Cocoon gives an OK PQ and good audio however the positioning of the 'dishes' must be spot on or picture AND audio are crappe - pointing them facing each other may not necessarily give best PQ, suggest you experiment a lot.

I used to have a 2.4GHz GigaAir2020 (from D Smith about 4 years ago) and this unit gave perhaps better PQ and audio. Certainly it was not as fussy with the dish positioning.

Just for interest sake I have a second Cocoon receiver located only 6 metres direct line of sight from transmitter - no problem here with PQ and audio no matter which way the dishes are aimed.

I found changing channels did nothing.

Trust this helps.

[NormanD]

Thanks mate,

Looks like I may have to go for the 2.4ghz version instead.

Cheers

[Tes]

Hi

We had a 2.4 ghz AV Sender for a few years and it worked like a dream until we changed our living room around and put the TV on an opposite wall. It then played up a lot.

We have now tried two 5.8 ghz Cocoon AV senders and neither worked. They both start to work and then drop out. We've tried various paths. We do have a concrete wall house but we've even tried having them face each other directly through the door and they still don't work. We have wondered if we got a bad batch and if it is worth our going to another Dick Smith store to see if one from another batch might work.

Does anyone think it is worth trying another brand and if so, any suggestions please?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

[laurie]

Amazing almost 2010 and we still cannot send a wireless video signal reliably through a house

cheers laurie

[Tes]

Amazing almost 2010 and we still cannot send a wireless video signal reliably through a house

cheers laurie

Yes. It's most maddening coz they promise you can!!

[beastjim]

Amazing almost 2010 and we still cannot send a wireless video signal reliably through a house

cheers laurie

Now play fair. I can have a 720p video on my laptop and my PS3 can reliably receive it over a wireless network (just plain old G not N standard). It all depends on the technologies throughput and encoding methods.

On the problem did you move something closer like a wireless telephone or a microwave? Both of these appliances can have an impact in that sort of spectrum.

[laurie]

Now play fair. I can have a 720p video on my laptop and my PS3 can reliably receive it over a wireless network (just plain old G not N standard). It all depends on the technologies throughput and encoding methods.

On the problem did you move something closer like a wireless telephone or a microwave? Both of these appliances can have an impact in that sort of spectrum.

I was referring to video senders to which this thread is about!

cheers laurie

[Tes]

Now play fair. I can have a 720p video on my laptop and my PS3 can reliably receive it over a wireless network (just plain old G not N standard). It all depends on the technologies throughput and encoding methods.

On the problem did you move something closer like a wireless telephone or a microwave? Both of these appliances can have an impact in that sort of spectrum.

No, we didn't move anything closer. However, the TV is now on the same side of the house as our PC, wireless phone, wireless modem and voip router. They are a good long distance apart still and the directional paths are not crossing each other.

Thanks for your thoughts on this beastjim.

[rattle]

Guys I'm hopeless with technical stuff, but I'm wondering if this helps...

The power pack for the sender is slightly different to the one for the receiver as far as volatge goes. I don't know if volatge is the right word, but if someone here knows more about this, please feel free to correct me.

When I first bought this sender, I quickly got it all out, hooked it up and the signal kept on repeatedly droping out. I assumed it was my steel framed house.

I took them back and the guy said that they have a heap of them get returned with the same reason, but I swapped it for another one and gave it a go.

When trying to connect the power packs, it was harder to connect one this time, than the other, so I had a closer look and saw that they were different, so I made sure I connected the right ones and the sender works perfectly via the steel framed walls and my Foxtel remote workes perfectly when fast forwarding ads when in the kitchen.

The only problem I have though is that my energy saving light bulb in the kitchen makes the blue light on the receiver flicker and my picture breaks up for the first couple of minutes until what I assume is when the bulb fully alluminates.

Edited December 17, 2009 by rattle

[GLO]

Hi,

I have just connected the AVS58 and cant get any video. however the Ir sender is fine.

Any suggestions to get this to work?

I have also tried different channels to no avail.

I also wanted to know about using the 2nd video source. On the receiver it says to hold the button down for 5 seconds. Is there any other way (apart from the picture which i dont have, to tell if its on source 1 or 2?

Thanks

[ChaosMaster]

I have just connected the AVS58 and cant get any video. however the Ir sender is fine.

Rather ironically, I found that holding down the receiver 'source' button fixed this problem for me when I first set it up...

I don't believe there is any way to tell which source you are currently viewing besides looking at the picture (though admittedly it isn't something I have looked into).

Cheers,

ChaosMaster.

[GLO]

Rather ironically, I found that holding down the receiver 'source' button fixed this problem for me when I first set it up...

I don't believe there is any way to tell which source you are currently viewing besides looking at the picture (though admittedly it isn't something I have looked into).

Cheers,

ChaosMaster.

Thanks for your reply.

I have since spoken to Envious Technology and they said that the device defaults to source 2 primarily, yet, in my case i cant see source 1 (never have been able to toggle or see source 1)

[Jdrive]

Hi all,

I couldn't create a new topic for some reason (maybe because I haven't posted yet - Hi!), so I hope someone can help me in this thread

got one of the $89 Bauhn AV Senders (5.8GHZ). Connected transmitter to foxtel via an RCA hub/switcher (because the input on the Bauhn is a RCA --> 3.5MM jack) it's <10M from the remote tv, through one, maybe two walls depending how the signal travels, but all I get is an intermittant flickering of grey/black signal and occasional sound (kind of of like a macrovision error IIRC what that looked like lol). I did somewhat of an isolation test, turned off my 5.8ghz phone (further down the house), and even the 2.4GHZ wifi/microwave, and a 900mhz wireless headphone base in the remote tv room. Same result. To make sure it wasn't the foxtel/hub I also connected an xbox and a dvd player direct to the transmitter - still the same result. I tried all 8 channels multiple times, moved the antenna etc etc... is there something I am missing? Do I have a faulty set? It was driving me crazy, if anyone has any tips before I storm back to Aldi for a replacement or my money let me know!

Edited August 22, 2010 by Jdrive

[trebo36]

Hi all,

I couldn't create a new topic for some reason (maybe because I haven't posted yet - Hi!), so I hope someone can help me in this thread

got one of the $89 Bauhn AV Senders (5.8GHZ). Connected transmitter to foxtel via an RCA hub/switcher (because the input on the Bauhn is a RCA --> 3.5MM jack) it's <10M from the remote tv, through one, maybe two walls depending how the signal travels, but all I get is an intermittant flickering of grey/black signal and occasional sound (kind of of like a macrovision error IIRC what that looked like lol). I did somewhat of an isolation test, turned off my 5.8ghz phone (further down the house), a)nd even the 2.4GHZ wifi/microwave, and a 900mhz wireless headphone base in the remote tv room. Same result. To make sure it wasn't the foxtel/hub I also connected an xbox and a dvd player direct to the transmitter - still the same result. I tried all 8 channels multiple times, moved the antenna etc etc... is there something I am missing? Do I have a faulty set? It was driving me crazy, if anyone has any tips before I storm back to Aldi for a replacement or my money let me know!

Sorry I do not have an answer for you as to why the sender does not work and suggest you take it back for a refund.

As an alternative the 5.8 GHz Cocoon (I have 2) should work but if the signal goes through 1 or 2 walls then the picture and particularly the audio will not be brilliant. I would suggest a 2.4 GHz sender (it will work better through walls) but note that you have a 2.4 wi-fi - I expect it's easier for you to turn off the 5.8 phone than the modem (as I do) when sending the Foxtel signal. By the way the my Cocoon's remote extender works brilliantly.

Edited August 24, 2010 by trebo36

[Jdrive]

Sorry I do not have an answer for you as to why the sender does not work and suggest you take it back for a refund.

As an alternative the 5.8 GHz Cocoon (I have 2) should work but if the signal goes through 1 or 2 walls then the picture and particularly the audio will not be brilliant. I would suggest a 2.4 GHz sender (it will work better through walls) but note that you have a 2.4 wi-fi - I expect it's easier for you to turn off the 5.8 phone than the modem (as I do) when sending the Foxtel signal. By the way the my Cocoon's remote extender works brilliantly.

Thanks for the help. It was a faulty unit, I exchanged it for another one which works fine. Well fine through 2 walls being a bit like a little rough analog reception, not crystal clear like advertised lol, but hardly an issue.

HOWEVER the IR extender doesn't work at all gaaahh... I hope that's not faulty.. I'll have to try it with something other than foxtel to isolate it.

Also - 2.4Ghz gives a better signal from what you say? I tried a 2.4GHz cocoon about a year ago but my wifi is on 2.4ghz and kept interfering unfortunately.

[Rochefort]

Guys I'm hopeless with technical stuff, but I'm wondering if this helps...

The power pack for the sender is slightly different to the one for the receiver as far as volatge goes. I don't know if volatge is the right word, but if someone here knows more about this, please feel free to correct me.

When I first bought this sender, I quickly got it all out, hooked it up and the signal kept on repeatedly droping out. I assumed it was my steel framed house.

I took them back and the guy said that they have a heap of them get returned with the same reason, but I swapped it for another one and gave it a go.

When trying to connect the power packs, it was harder to connect one this time, than the other, so I had a closer look and saw that they were different, so I made sure I connected the right ones and the sender works perfectly via the steel framed walls and my Foxtel remote workes perfectly when fast forwarding ads when in the kitchen.

The only problem I have though is that my energy saving light bulb in the kitchen makes the blue light on the receiver flicker and my picture breaks up for the first couple of minutes until what I assume is when the bulb fully alluminates.

Hrm..... I had this problem with a sender that looks very suspiciously like the cocoon that I bought from Big W (for about 30 bucks less then DSE)... On my LCD the picture kept dropping out constantly (the old digitech I had worked perfectly till it died)... So I got an old school CRT out and the sender worked fine...

Maybe I had the power packs the wrong way round and the LCD needs a higher current or something to drive the picture properly?

Will buy a cocoon one at lunch, hopefully not the same issue