countryw Posted June 5, 2010 Posted June 5, 2010 (edited) My attempt abc4 times for the channel program (there will be some gaps and it will be a bit messy) Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday 6:00 to 9:00 news breakfast " " " " 9:00 to 9:30 asia pacific news " " " " 9:30 to 12:00 rolling news " " " " (possibly every 15 or 30 minutes) 12:00 to 12:30 midday report " " " " 12:30 to 7:00 rolling news " " " " (unless parliament Question Time Monday to Thursday 2:00 to 3:00 opposite from ABC1 For example abc1 lower house abc4 upper house) 7:00 to 7:30 evening news " " " " 7:30 to 8:00 7:30 report " " " " 8:00 to 9:20 Australian Foreign rolling news rolling news rolling news Story Correspondent 9:20 to 10:30 rolling news 10:30 to 11:30 both Lateline& " " " " lateline business 11:30 to 6:00 rolling news I found Saturday hardest day put news program on abc4 if i was programmer Saturday 6:00 to 9:00 ABC breakfast weekends 9:00 to 9:30 Asia pacific news 9:30 to 7:00 rolling news 7:00 to 7:30 7o'clock news 7:30 to 6:00 rolling news Sunday 6:00 to 9:00 ABC breakfast Weekends 9:00 to 10:00 insiders 10:00 to 10:30 inside business 10:30 to 11:00 Offsiders 11:00 to 11:30 Asia pacific focus 11:30 to 12:00 rolling news 12:00 to 1:00 Landline 1:00 to 7:00 rolling news 7:00 to 7:30 7 o'clock news 7:30 to 6:00 rolling news that it I done it yes i could add some things here or take some thing away but this is a rough idea the channel might be. ps i don't know how to do columns and rows in this tread. ( Edited June 5, 2010 by countryw
alanh Posted June 5, 2010 Posted June 5, 2010 Newtaste, You obviously don't know about Australia Network which is paid for by the Foreign Affairs department and run by the ABC. It is an overseas satellite service from Australia. It carries ABC and programs from our commercial stations. AlanH
DrP Posted June 5, 2010 Posted June 5, 2010 (edited) Well thats about as irrelevant to newtaste's post as it gets. Let's examine. Out of the content that appears on Australia Network we must discard all the programming from the local commercial networks for obvious reasons. Out of the 'news and current affairs' genre, which is todate all that will appear on ABC News, most is already shown in this country on ABC's existing domestic services. There are a few programs unique to Australia Network but they would hardly 'fill the void'. Is there an alarmingly high repeat rate of 'news and current affairs' on Australia Network? No. The question obviously has to be asked; what exactly was the point of introducing Australia Network, alanh? I suppose Australia Network could be held up as an example of what ABC News won't be. Edited June 5, 2010 by DrP
GoForMoe Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 Newtaste,You obviously don't know about Australia Network which is paid for by the Foreign Affairs department and run by the ABC. It is an overseas satellite service from Australia. It carries ABC and programs from our commercial stations. AlanH Showing an Australian perspective on Asia-Pacific news is about as irrelevant as you can possibly get. Newtaste is almost certainly talking about broadcasting bulletins from English services of Asia-Pacific broadcasters. There are plenty of good sources like TVNZ and NHK World that would add a foreign perspective on our region, which is the point of running bulletins from overseas in English. The observation is that SBS only broadcast the US PBS NewsHour and the German DW-TV The Journal, and no Asia-Pacific region English bulletins.
Rabbit3 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Movement is and has been happening on the ABC News 24 front. The ABC has begun an information campaign about the movement then removal of ABC HD and its replacement with News 24 on LCN 24: What's happening to ABC HD?We are changing our HD channel in preparation for the launch of our new 24 hour news channel. This first stage of this change is to replace the HD channel with a SD (standard definition) broadcast of ABC1 (NSW). The second change will occur when ABC News 24 launches, at which time the ABC1 HD channel will be taken off air. Why will the HD channel be removed? The ABC only has a specific amount of digital spectrum in which to broadcast all its services. To launch ABC News 24, we need the spectrum currently being used to broadcast our ABC1 HD channel. To continue to watch ABC1 once ABC News 24 starts, please switch to channel 2 or 21 if you are watching free-to-air television or channel 102 for Foxtel and Austar. Does this mean that ABC will not broadcast anything in HD? ABC News 24 will be broadcast in HD. All other channels (ABC1, ABC2, ABC3) will be broadcast in SD (standard definition). How will I find ABC News 24? When it launches, ABC News 24 can be found on channel 24. If you are watching through Foxtel it will be channel 202 and if you subscribe through Austar, it will be channel 24. Optus viewers will not be able to access ABC News 24, as their service does not offer HD. ABC Digital You can see the differences taking place in preparation & piloting for the channel already: late evening News Updates rebranded as Lateline News Updates; Ali Moore replaced by Ticky Fullerton on Lateline Business; Jeremy Fernandez & Scott Bevan presenting early evening News updates rather than Juanita Phillips (in NSW at least); Michael Rowland replacing Joe O'Brien on ABC News Breakfast.
Rabbit3 Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 I have a few questions in relation to ABC News 24: How long before the start of a channel does OzTam have to be notified? Does OzTam measure HD channel audience levels (Other than OneHD)? Will the ABC need to notify them of News 24 given it is replacing HD? Do we know if any notification has already happened? I'm sure someone out there knows these answers. Your help would be much appreciated.
DrP Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 ABC News 24 will be broadcast in HD. All other channels (ABC1, ABC2, ABC3) will be broadcast in SD (standard definition). I hope that satisfactorily dismisses the claims that have been made by a certain forum member once and for all. The ABC HD/SD simulcast will end ABC News 24 will replace ABC HD and be transmitted as HD (which includes upscale) .... and it'll all be MPEG-2.
Rabbit3 Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 Channel 20 now broadcasting with the ABC1 watermark. My STB is still reading it as HD, but it's no longer being labelled that way.
dshan Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Channel 20 now broadcasting with the ABC1 watermark. My STB is still reading it as HD, but it's no longer being labelled that way. That seems to be part of the News 24 launch process. First turn ABC HDTV channel 20 into an SD broadcast of ABC1, then relaunch it as the HD News 24 on channel 24. Hopefully it'll all be done and dusted this month.
ChaosMaster Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Seems ABC is preparing for the big move to Ingleburn. EPG disruptions are expected. link Hmm...
GoForMoe Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Seems ABC is preparing for the big move to Ingleburn.EPG disruptions are expected. link Hmm... Can anyone in Canberra post a TS reading of ABC, which should have already made the change based on that.
DrP Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 It will be interesting to see if ABC1 is made part of the stat mux group and if ABC2 is allowed to exceed 3Mbit/sec again.
GoForMoe Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 It will be interesting to see if ABC1 is made part of the stat mux group and if ABC2 is allowed to exceed 3Mbit/sec again. Well it makes sense to add ABC1, as they need to make local muxes so Queensland, NT, SA and WA can have News 24 live throughout the year and the new facility no doubt would have that capability. It will be interesting how the rates work out, I expect ABC1 to be lower to allow 2 and 3 to be raised a bit, with News 24 steady.
alanh Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Goformoe, The ABC in Ingleburn will be doing all presentation and delay. So they will be time zone delaying all programs in Ingleburn except ABC24 which will be live. AlanH
ChaosMaster Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 The ABC in Ingleburn will be doing all presentation and delay. So they will be time zone delaying all programs in Ingleburn except ABC24 which will be live. And alanh states the obvious again... Thank you, Alan. None of us had any idea that is what they were doing...
'ct' Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Goformoe,The ABC in Ingleburn will be doing all presentation and delay. So they will be time zone delaying all programs in Ingleburn except ABC24 which will be live. AlanH Yes and no, too complex to detail here. Please don't assume if you have no access to what is actually going on.
ChaosMaster Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Yes and no, too complex to detail here. Please don't assume if you have no access to what is actually going on. Would I be correct in saying that it isn't so much a 'delay' with the new centre, as it is a completely seperate and independent playout and encode of each channel to each region? (Or have I just put my foot in it... ) Cheers, ChaosMaster. (Puts on flame suit...)
'ct' Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Would I be correct in saying that it isn't so much a 'delay' with the new centre, as it is a completely seperate and independent playout and encode of each channel to each region? (Or have I just put my foot in it... ) Cheers, ChaosMaster. (Puts on flame suit...) You are more close to the money, depends on the network, and in some cases, live programs and how they are delayed. Very early days as cutover is still in progress.
GregA1503560021 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Well it makes sense to add ABC1, as they need to make local muxes so Queensland, NT, SA and WA can have News 24 live throughout the year and the new facility no doubt would have that capability. It will be interesting how the rates work out, I expect ABC1 to be lower to allow 2 and 3 to be raised a bit, with News 24 steady. I hadn't even thought of the impact on their ABCHD/2/3 mux compression. Is it possible that each state will start compressing their own combination of 1/2/3/24 ? Dynamically allocating bandwidth lets them squeeze a bit more quality out. I've also wondered if they would lower ABC24 to 576p. That used to be defined as HD (is it still?) and would allow them to give more bandwidth to the SD channels while only nominally doing anything HD with the news. Perhaps that would be better overall.
GoForMoe Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Is it possible that each state will start compressing their own combination of 1/2/3/24 ? Dynamically allocating bandwidth lets them squeeze a bit more quality out. They have to, because otherwise you'd just have ABC2 and 3 fighting it out between each other. Part of the new facility the ABC is building is this ability to produce the whole multiplex on a per-state basis, which has much needed benefits on PQ, not to mention that the site is going to be built with more modern equipment than currently used. 576p wouldn't really deliver much of a bandwidth saving, especially on the content ABC News 24 will be running. ABC2 and 3 will be the big winners out of this move.
piranha Posted June 20, 2010 Author Posted June 20, 2010 July 5 is the rumour.CK. I think if it was July 5 we would have heard something by now would'nt we, and don't they need to give 4-6 weeks notice for ratings
ckent Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) I think if it was July 5 we would have heard something by now would'nt we, and don't they need to give 4-6 weeks notice for ratings Maybe. Remember they do want to spring a surprise on Sky News still, so there's that to consider; and maybe they will just soft-launch a news channel without the usual programming notification ahead of time, etc. Having said that, the latest batch of job advertisements are saying August. But remember that the election may well be held in August, with a 4-week campaign period. You can bet ghat ABC will flick the switch the moment the election is called, if it happens this month or next. CK. Edited June 20, 2010 by ckent
Aurora8 Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 I think if it was July 5 we would have heard something by now would'nt we, and don't they need to give 4-6 weeks notice for ratings I believe it's 8 weeks notice to OzTAM. Though just because OzTAM is notified, that doesn't mean that everyone would know all of a sudden.
ckent Posted June 26, 2010 Posted June 26, 2010 It would have come in real handy last Wed night / Thu morning ... a few tweeps were sending Mark Scott messages about it. Oh well. They just took over ABC1 instead. CK.
Timmy Downawell Posted June 26, 2010 Posted June 26, 2010 I believe it's 8 weeks notice to OzTAM. Though just because OzTAM is notified, that doesn't mean that everyone would know all of a sudden. Do ratings even matter to ABC? They can start the channel whenever they want without notifying OzTAM.
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