mello yello Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, cafe67 said: Yello Hatch, thats something that chicks do Spoiler Edited October 30, 2017 by mello yello 1 1
muzzagruzz Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 21 hours ago, cafe67 said: Yello I took the SR for a test drive the other week and it wasn't bad at all. (some lucky bugger that drove it after me will no doubt be enjoying my newish Rayban sunnies - bastard). The 1.6 turbo has plenty of power and torque, not that I could really test its abilities on a test run, but the steering has a funny feeling through it. It's well weighted and direct enough but felt a little nervous in comparison to my Golf 7. The latter car's steering has excellent and consistent feel so I know which way the wheels are pointing all the time. I'll have to test another sample of the i30 at a later time to find out if it's isolated just to the car I drove. The interior fit and finish is good rather than class leading with more hard plastic around the cabin instead of the soft to touch plastic, although this does adorn the dash pad. Interior presentation and ergonomics, again, are good but not up there with VW, yet Hyundai is pricing their cars to compete with premium European and Japanese cars. It comes with quite a bit of kit including leather, sat nav, 18 inch alloys and a decent safety system on board. The best thing is the five year warranty and the affordable servicing costs. Plus, it craps all over VW for reliability. Hmmm. 1
cafe67 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Did drive a auto or manual - sounds like you drive the auto going by the mention of safety kit. The steering does feel weighted and odd at first , I'm not sure if its to do with that lane keeping stuff. Try turning that off. I find tbe interior fit and finish very good in my car and much better than the Vitara I had previously. Last time sat in a gold was a mark 6 , so can't compare. Pricing yes I think they pitching a premium product , but in my opinion , the build quality in and out on ison par with mates 2017 323 and better than a current model Corolla. Could be biased tho 1
rantan Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, muzzagruzz said: I took the SR for a test drive the other week and it wasn't bad at all. (some lucky bugger that drove it after me will no doubt be enjoying my newish Rayban sunnies - bastard). The 1.6 turbo has plenty of power and torque, not that I could really test its abilities on a test run, but the steering has a funny feeling through it. It's well weighted and direct enough but felt a little nervous in comparison to my Golf 7. The latter car's steering has excellent and consistent feel so I know which way the wheels are pointing all the time. I'll have to test another sample of the i30 at a later time to find out if it's isolated just to the car I drove. The interior fit and finish is good rather than class leading with more hard plastic around the cabin instead of the soft to touch plastic, although this does adorn the dash pad. Interior presentation and ergonomics, again, are good but not up there with VW, yet Hyundai is pricing their cars to compete with premium European and Japanese cars. It comes with quite a bit of kit including leather, sat nav, 18 inch alloys and a decent safety system on board. The best thing is the five year warranty and the affordable servicing costs. Plus, it craps all over VW for reliability. Hmmm. I also tried one a while back and had no problems with steering feel and this is one area about which I am really fussy. The Golf is slightly more refined and interior quality is slightly better but I do stress the word slightly and the much better equipment levels, reliability,longevity and warranty of the i30 SR is far superior. It will also feel the same way in 10 years time, whereas keeping a Golf for 5 years + isn't really a viable proposition. I need more space, both passenger and gear than either the Golf or i30 provides, but if it would serve my needs, I would buy an i30 SR over a Golf anytime. ( trade offs notwithstanding ) 2
muzzagruzz Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Yes, I do agree with the reliability and longevity part. Just wish this car was available two years ago. My Golf still has over six months manufacturer’s warranty so may be a good time to sell it. The i30 SR is high on the list for a replacement car. Oh, I forgot to mention earlier that I drove Hyundai’s version of a twin clutch and it didn’t have the hesitation of the VW’s DSG. It was pretty good.
LHC Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, cafe67 said: The steering does feel weighted and odd at first , I'm not sure if its to do with that lane keeping stuff. Try turning that off. I am assuming you are talking about the latest generation of i30. The earlier i30 have three steering settings to select from: light, normal, weighted. 1
rantan Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, muzzagruzz said: Yes, I do agree with the reliability and longevity part. Just wish this car was available two years ago. My Golf still has over six months manufacturer’s warranty so may be a good time to sell it. The i30 SR is high on the list for a replacement car. Oh, I forgot to mention earlier that I drove Hyundai’s version of a twin clutch and it didn’t have the hesitation of the VW’s DSG. It was pretty good. They really have nailed the brief on the DCT. I couldn't fault it in any way and even at low speeds it is very decisive and quick thinking 1
muzzagruzz Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Sat in one yesterday that had a six speed manual gearbox and what a nice shift action. Makes me want to drive a manual again.
cafe67 Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, LHC said: I am assuming you are talking about the latest generation of i30. The earlier i30 have three steering settings to select from: light, normal, weighted. Yes, the new i30SR (at least) don't have that feature 1
muzzagruzz Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, cafe67 said: Did drive a auto or manual - sounds like you drive the auto going by the mention of safety kit. The steering does feel weighted and odd at first , I'm not sure if its to do with that lane keeping stuff. Try turning that off. I find tbe interior fit and finish very good in my car and much better than the Vitara I had previously. Last time sat in a gold was a mark 6 , so can't compare. Pricing yes I think they pitching a premium product , but in my opinion , the build quality in and out on ison par with mates 2017 323 and better than a current model Corolla. Could be biased tho Ah, interesting, you felt the steering 'thing' as well. I'll try as you suggested and turn off the lane keeping feature, if that is possible, and see if there is a difference. Yep, I drove the dual clutch auto and as I mentioned a littler earlier, it's a pretty good thing. 1
GregWormald Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 10 hours ago, muzzagruzz said: I drove the dual clutch auto and as I mentioned a littler earlier, it's a pretty good thing. Like everything else a dual clutch can be great--or awful. The only way to tell about the transmission is to drive it and see. Oh, and then there's reliability. Unfortunately that won't be known for years.
betty boop Posted October 30, 2017 Author Posted October 30, 2017 that they are too scared to fit to the i30N tells me something the new SR version of the sonata just announced isn't getting a dual clutch either but their new 8 speed auto I see. not casting aspersions, just I thinking maybe hyundai know its limits, i.e. power / torque the dual clutch can take rather than push things. personally am a fan of single clutch / dual clutch units with last few cars owned but there are some great 7-8 speed conv autos of late ! 1
muzzagruzz Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I too really like dual clutch autos as they have lightning quick gear changes and are very efficient. However, as everyone knows, not all dual clutches are made equal. The Porsche PDK is arguably the best of the breed and would be incredibly reliable for many years, if not the lifetime of the car. VW dual clutches, on the other hand, are probably nowhere near as relatable. I certainly hope the DCT in the Hyundai would last a long time but, given a choice, I’d prefer that it came with a really good ZF 6 or 7 speed torque converter auto. Much more reliable and can be just as much fun. Not as much fun as a manual gearbox though.
betty boop Posted October 31, 2017 Author Posted October 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, muzzagruzz said: I’d prefer that it came with a really good ZF 6 or 7 speed torque converter auto. Much more reliable and can be just as much fun. Not as much fun as a manual gearbox though. muzzy if ever get the chance go for a drive in a bmw 135i which surprisingly will find 2nd hand for what probably be paying for new for golf gti or some such. the guzzle fuel lot more than average hot hatches but one of THE best ZF 8 speed gear boxes have come across. the ZF used in the mini is very good too. as with the conv auto we have in the mazda sp25. ZF conv autos are not without their woes. just have to google ZF gear box fault and some such and will find a few. in fact the citroen i owned in the C4 came with a ZF gear box that was the one only failing in the whole car apparently. not that i myself had any bother with it. but i know a few who told me to get rid of the car before had any problems with the ZF gear box. similarly the golf GTI with its dual clutch blamed for faults is such a misnomer. because I know having owned one and following the forums carefully with other owners there are really no bother. people get so confused wiht the 7 speed dry clutch which was a failing in the turbo supercharged VWs which was a whole another story. but the mud sticks i guess and before know it forums abound say dual clutch ? dont touch. ford didnt help with this with their disintegrating effort ! a colleague of mine with his focus regularly has his into the ford dealer and really worried with warranty is about to run out ! by the way bmw in their renewed 1 series could quite possibly fit a dual clutch as their revised 2 series that is going to use the same platform is using such and supposed to apply to mini as well. so could be interesting what comes in the bmw world. 1
agelessgoodguy Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 Just love my M135I and its very fast ZF 8 speed box, that coupled with the Michelan SP4's has is going better than ever, BTW she's clocked up ove 163,00 km now and still giving me smiles every day!
blybo Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 On 30/10/2017 at 8:06 PM, rantan said: I also tried one a while back and had no problems with steering feel and this is one area about which I am really fussy. The Golf is slightly more refined and interior quality is slightly better but I do stress the word slightly and the much better equipment levels, reliability,longevity and warranty of the i30 SR is far superior. It will also feel the same way in 10 years time, whereas keeping a Golf for 5 years + isn't really a viable proposition. I need more space, both passenger and gear than either the Golf or i30 provides, but if it would serve my needs, I would buy an i30 SR over a Golf anytime. ( trade offs notwithstanding ) How can you comment on the longevity and reliability of a brand new model? My wife has a Golf GTI Mk7, my sales rep has Comfortline petrol Mk7 and my Mum has a Comfortline Diesel Mk5. All DSG. Nothing really to report on any of them except a couple of minor niggles on the GTI and that my rep is great at getting people to run into him. 3 repairs in 4 years. If you want more space get the Wagon. It's almost got the same boot space of a Passat wagon. That will be my reps next car and my wife has a Golf R Wolfsburg hatch on order. I can't wait till her lease expires in Feb...
agelessgoodguy Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 10 hours ago, blybo said: . I can't wait till her lease expires in Feb... Expecting a drive are we?
DoggieHowser Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 The recent case of a BMW driver knocking down a kid in Melbourne.. was it a 140? 135? Damn.. really gives BMW drivers a bad rap
blybo Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Expecting a drive are we? Most definitely. She gets to fang my SS Redline
agelessgoodguy Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 On 11/11/2017 at 8:17 PM, DoggieHowser said: The recent case of a BMW driver knocking down a kid in Melbourne.. was it a 140? 135? Damn.. really gives BMW drivers a bad rap Twas an Asian lady driving a smaller engined version of a one series, as you can tell by the style of radio aerial, she inside now and deservedly so.
agelessgoodguy Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 On 11/11/2017 at 8:23 PM, blybo said: Most definitely. She gets to fang my SS Redline maybe take her for a spin in an M140 before you lock that little Golfburger contract in, she may just enjoy the power coming from the rear better?
blybo Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 maybe take her for a spin in an M140 before you lock that little Golfburger contract in, she may just enjoy the power coming from the rear better? Rule #1 for my wife’s vehicle purchases. No “prestige” brands in her work carpark. Clients already whine about Vet charges without having a clue of wholesale costs. Usually the ones driving large European SUVs [emoji45]. All things being equal, we prefer a well sorted all wheel drive. We both owned several Subaru’s in the past
agelessgoodguy Posted November 14, 2017 Posted November 14, 2017 Yep understand Blybo on both counts, we run Subby wagons as service cars for similar reasons, as for the nice cars in the drive way just say they are the boss's cars LOL.
blybo Posted November 14, 2017 Posted November 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, agelessgoodguy said: Yep understand Blybo on both counts, we run Subby wagons as service cars for similar reasons, as for the nice cars in the drive way just say they are the boss's cars LOL. She is the boss, that's the problem. Constantly gets the usual stuff about putting out kids through private school educations, paying off our mortgage...
betty boop Posted November 14, 2017 Author Posted November 14, 2017 I remember talking to Blybo before he got the golf gti saying how I got my Merc at the time for about same money as previous gti. But yes he told me same thing. A golf gti is seen upon as more humble... and yet plays part of wolf in sheep clothing pretty well ! ironically in my my current role I probably can’t be seen gettting around in a merc either not sure what customers would think ! nyways looking forward to what the Wolfsburg is like Blybo ! 1
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