Ps3 Modchip Via Usb

[diesel]

From Engadget

A USB modchip for the PS3 has emerged from the mists this morning, purporting to allow the dumping of games onto nearby storage -- the console's internal HDD and external drives are both a-ok -- as well as the subsequent playing of said games without the need for the original disc. Could it be the backup/piracy nirvana Sony loyalists have been awaiting for so long? Well, there's a video showing the little USB device apparently working, and the PSX-Scene team say they have personally verified that it does what it claims to do, but skepticism remains advisable here. The PS3 has been a fortress of hacker unfriendliness, so we'd rather kick back, relax, and wait for some braver souls than us to do the testing

[delarge]

I don't care for pirating games, I'd rather have a nice collection of originals....what really bugs me and makes me want a hacked PS3 is the loss of other OS and the constant badgering to update the system all the time. I put a newly purchased region A Blu-ray (Youth in Revolt by Sony Pictures) in my U.S. PS3 tonight that I haven't updated in months and planned on installing Linux on it. The PS3 wouldn't let me watch the movie until I updated the firmware. I searched far and wide for a work-around, but in the end got fed up and clicked the update button. I hope something like this USB hack lets me put another OS on my PS3 down the track. I love my PS3, but sometimes I think back to the days of the SNES and the NES where you bought a game system and just played it from day 1. No software updates. The double-edged sword is that with more updates comes more exciting new features. What do we do?

Cheers!

Adam.

[windeath]

This updating craze with Sony seems to be across all their products. My BR player is firmware updating all the time it would appear. Why I know not as some are obvious enhancements whilst others are more "stealth".

[DansDans]

I love how "OzModChips" wants to charge $170 for USB dongle with some software on it

If the software works and is legit, it will (should) be available on the internet to download for everyone, just like the Wii stuff is.

I'm not paying some jerk $170 for a USB stick. And some of the things I've about this hack (google PS3 Jailbreak and read the first link) add some serious doubt to this claim.

Also curious why the first place selling it is an Australian website...

[Guest plains]

I love how "OzModChips" wants to charge $170 for USB dongle with some software on it

If the software works and is legit, it will (should) be available on the internet to download for everyone, just like the Wii stuff is.

I'm not paying some jerk $170 for a USB stick. And some of the things I've about this hack (google PS3 Jailbreak and read the first link) add some serious doubt to this claim.

Also curious why the first place selling it is an Australian website...

Quite uninformed is your post....

I am sure there is a good margin in $170 but there is always a premium on the first product to market and there is huge demand. The reason it hit Aus first is it was shipped world wide but from Hong Kong so hence the aussies had it first. Other people now have them and have confirmed they work so stfu and do some research. There is a hardware component to it which is more then just some files on a flash drive, it may be able to be dumbed down to exclude the LED's etc but it is likely to have an eeprom on the sitck that does the authentication.

[huggy]

I love how "OzModChips" wants to charge $170 for USB dongle with some software on it

If the software works and is legit, it will (should) be available on the internet to download for everyone, just like the Wii stuff is.

I'm not paying some jerk $170 for a USB stick. And some of the things I've about this hack (google PS3 Jailbreak and read the first link) add some serious doubt to this claim.

Also curious why the first place selling it is an Australian website...

Those "Jerks" you mentioned saved me alot of money in regards to being able to back up the kids Wii games. Anyone who has kids knows the pain of scratched and unusable disks.

They don't just cater for Pirates you know.

[DansDans]

Quite uninformed is your post....

I am sure there is a good margin in $170 but there is always a premium on the first product to market and there is huge demand. The reason it hit Aus first is it was shipped world wide but from Hong Kong so hence the aussies had it first. Other people now have them and have confirmed they work so stfu and do some research. There is a hardware component to it which is more then just some files on a flash drive, it may be able to be dumbed down to exclude the LED's etc but it is likely to have an eeprom on the sitck that does the authentication.

Wow - touchee. Anyone would think I personally insulted you... sheesh the boards get testy around pirate time dont they?

[Guest plains]

Wow - touchee. Anyone would think I personally insulted you... sheesh the boards get testy around pirate time dont they?

Sorry I was fired up at work at someone who was making unqualified comments and then I came here. I think this jig has a lot of potential uses other then piracy and I am interested to see where it takes us. Have you done any further research into the ps jailbreak? Quite an interesting development I would say.

[cowabungadude]

Wow - touchee. Anyone would think I personally insulted you... sheesh the boards get testy around pirate time dont they?

i think you got pwned mate

[windeath]

This is the new "Don't talk about your religion or who you vote for". The rage meter goes into the red zone whenever piracy/hacking/backdooring (hey come on it's a legitimate "computery term)/circumventing starts being talked about.

I think it's an inevitability that these consoles will be hacked. If it enables more freedom to use our expensive toys in a more (what's the word?) freer way then I'm all for it. But if it just reduces them to giving us the ability to not pay of games and pirate them then it just gets ugly. I have two X360's neither are JTAG'd (is that right? It sounds like a graffiti term not a hack for a console) and I'm happy to buy all my games. I have three young lads that are involved in my gaming hobby and I just don't let them touch my/their games in fear of damage.

[diesel]

My use of "backdooring" is purely for "back-uping" my collections.

[DansDans]

i think you got pwned mate

:lol indeed I did!

Golden Rule #1 on DTV Forum: Thou shall NEVER EVER doubt or say anything negative towards piracy or pirate related products as EVERYONE knows they are for legit purposes like "backing up" games, playing emulators and unlocking "extra" features of your console

Silly, silly, silly me

I'll sit myself in the corner for a few hours.

[Raja]

Digital Foundry article

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalf...ilbreak-article

[cowabungadude]

:lol indeed I did!

Golden Rule #1 on DTV Forum: Thou shall NEVER EVER doubt or say anything negative towards piracy or pirate related products as EVERYONE knows they are for legit purposes like "backing up" games, playing emulators and unlocking "extra" features of your console

Silly, silly, silly me

I'll sit myself in the corner for a few hours.

Voting for Family First today i guess?

Once again your post shows your ignorance about the whole modding scene.

[DansDans]

Voting for Family First today i guess?

Once again your post shows your ignorance about the whole modding scene.

Ah yes, the noble modding scene

Not a pirate to be seen there, huh?

[Jdrive]

Ah yes, the noble modding scene

Not a pirate to be seen there, huh?

heh.. I still have my modified PSX.. was there anything you could do on that BESIDES play pirated games?

I picked up an Xbox classic for free a year or so ago as well, and softmodded that for the fun of it/XBMC but I did inevitably end up with some copies of games, I didn't feel too bad because you can't buy the games any more though, or at all, ie. rent-a-hero (although there is a computer store in southland selling some old games like Max Payne 1 for Xbox for $99 haha, umm no)

I have a 360 and have about 16 games, I dont plan to have it modified any time in the near future.. HOWEVER.. if a "solution" like this USB dongle came out to modify a console, be it my 360, or if I had a PS3 I would probably utilise it to get the most out of my console, but temptation would probably end up proving too great and I'd end up with some copied games.. even if I didn't intend to!

Temptations aside... I think it's great that someone figured this out - only because I am envious of their ability, I don't want the game devs to be hurt while the console is in this stage of it's lifespan.. although 360 seems to be going ok. I wish I could wrap my brain around stuff like that, I think it would be fun (but ultimately frustrating) to try to crack something like that.

[DansDans]

heh.. I still have my modified PSX.. was there anything you could do on that BESIDES play pirated games?

Temptations aside... I think it's great that someone figured this out - only because I am envious of their ability

1st comment - true, but there were some "emulators" for the PSX too (more piracy, lol) - the VCD card hooked up to the Serial port on the back of the unit

2nd comment - to be fair, its hardware based on a stolen (leaked) USB service dongle, reverse engineered and then mass produced (and from the looks of it, already cloned for cheaper than $170)

Interesting that the first thing available for this is a "back-up manager" - if this was about the homebrew scene, emulators, media players and all that junk, then where are these tools? No, the first thing released is a method to pirate games. No matter what the pro-piracy mod chipping "scene" try to say about this being great for homebrew etc, the sad truth is the only use this thing really has is pirating, and thats all. Reports from the internet list that this 'method' of backup has been available for over a year now, its just finally being mass-produced.

Before someone tells me to read up on this, I have been. What I've read from people who know (and who know alot more than me) is that getting the PS3 to run an emulator would be difficult (I wont even begin to go into the detail, because I dont understand it, but from what I do understand it something to do with programming for the CELL, coupled with actually getting the PS3 to run the code is difficult).

Also, considering the way this thing works, it would seem to be an easy exploit for Sony to patch in a firmware update. Also, since its reported to work only on 3.41 (or works best on 3.41) all those people who didnt update from the OtherOS update, just waiting for a pirate device like this so they can "stick it up Sony" are going to have to make a choice. Update now to 3.41, lose OtherOS but gain the ability to use this thing, keep OtherOS but this doesnt work, or hold off, update after 3.41 and lose both OtherOS and the ability to use this thing!

Another thing that the people who know have been saying, not me, is that the PS3 still hasnt been hacked, for whatever that means. They say that this is just a close of a piece of Sony hardware. No one has still cracked the security of the unit. Not my words though, these are things I read posted in NEOWIN from people who posted off others' blogs

Edited August 23, 2010 by DansDans

[Jdrive]

1st comment - true, but there were some "emulators" for the PSX too (more piracy, lol) - the VCD card hooked up to the Serial port on the back of the unit

Another thing that the people who know have been saying, not me, is that the PS3 still hasnt been hacked, for whatever that means. They say that this is just a close of a piece of Sony hardware. No one has still cracked the security of the unit. Not my words though, these are things I read posted in NEOWIN from people who posted off others' blogs

Oh man, the VCD player, I forgot about that.. that was an actual hardware plugin though yeah, I didn't think the console needed to be modded to run it. I saw one in an EB years ago for $20 and was tempted, but my fancy $300 dvd player could play VCDs (hahaha, and was the size of a small car). I do remember a "homebrew" porno game that one of my friends bought back from Thailand for the PSX actually lol, ended up with me then someone else stole it, what a laugh.

There's always the "import games" excuse.. but PS3 is already multi-region so it kills that argument.

I read somewhere where people were using the "Yes, now I can develop xyz homebrew for PS3", to which one reply was along the lines of "well that was possible with Other OS... but NO ONE did it, why does it take being able to pirate a game for people to be interested enough to tinker with the homebrew stuff".

RE: the "PS3 still hasn't been hacked".. well I suppose, I guess reverse engineering the thing is an achievement in itself, but I guess it's technically correct that the security cell or whatever it is hasn't been breached.

[Jdrive]

1st comment - true, but there were some "emulators" for the PSX too (more piracy, lol) - the VCD card hooked up to the Serial port on the back of the unit

Oh yeah I had a NES games disc for my PSX too... terrible terrible emulation haha... and no save feature like the Xbox ones allowed later down the track. Suppose it would have been good at the time.

[DansDans]

Oh man, the VCD player, I forgot about that.. that was an actual hardware plugin though yeah, I didn't think the console needed to be modded to run it. I saw one in an EB years ago for $20 and was tempted,

The VCD adaptor I bought also doubled as an action-replay device for the unit, as well a music and video player - it would allow you to play the cut scenes in the PSX games.

Also it had a picture viewer. There was a switch on the top of the adaptor.

[Guest plains]

My final comment in this post is this.

Do you expect to get paid for what you do as a "job" eg office worker, shelve stacker, mechanic or do you make your services available to all for free with no expectation of finacial reward?

Why then do you expect others to do so?

I often hear Microsoft Windows should be free..... Right then who pays the workers who code, test and develop the product? Who pays the distribution fees?

It is the same with Games and hardware and even the people that make hardware and software to circumvent copy protection. There are uses other than piracy for the dongle but piracy will be the main driver of sales and support for it.

[ajm1503559545]

My final comment in this post is this.

Do you expect to get paid for what you do as a "job" eg office worker, shelve stacker, mechanic or do you make your services available to all for free with no expectation of finacial reward?

Why then do you expect others to do so?

I often hear Microsoft Windows should be free..... Right then who pays the workers who code, test and develop the product? Who pays the distribution fees?

It is the same with Games and hardware and even the people that make hardware and software to circumvent copy protection. There are uses other than piracy for the dongle but piracy will be the main driver of sales and support for it.

Maybe I'm pointing out the obvious here but if all that effort and time is going into an activity that is (arguably) illegal, is it right to expect (demand?) to be paid?

I'm sure it takes a fair bit of coding and testing to make a really good trojan virus as well.

[DansDans]

My final comment in this post is this.

Do you expect to get paid for what you do as a "job" eg office worker, shelve stacker, mechanic or do you make your services available to all for free with no expectation of finacial reward?

Why then do you expect others to do so?

I often hear Microsoft Windows should be free..... Right then who pays the workers who code, test and develop the product? Who pays the distribution fees?

It is the same with Games and hardware and even the people that make hardware and software to circumvent copy protection. There are uses other than piracy for the dongle but piracy will be the main driver of sales and support for it.

So far, as it stands RIGHT NOW (Aug 23, 2010) what is the use for this dongle other than piracy? Nothing else has been created and is available right now that runs using this dongle...

[Guest]

so this ps3modchip is like the wii usb loader, yes?

if so, dans i agree with you it will most likely be used for piracy.

until more apps/functions are made available, unfortunatley it will be used for piracy.

it wont take long for sony to patch this up anyway.

[Johnny_Boy]

The PS3 had had a few years with no one being able to use back up games, I say it's about time someone developed a walk around for it.

The game developers will still make money, just because you can do it doesn't mean you will.

Look at DVD sales, it's now very easy (almost 1-click) to copy, yet most people don't. Same with blu-ray, you can do it by most don't.

I expect most people wont get this 'mod' but the people that do will not greatly effect developers pockets. Hell they could have helped develop it, who knows