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I like Craig Ferguson also, he is pretty quick with the witty responses when he is talking to guests.

Don't much care for Geoff though................"BALLS!"

I reckon we should have tonight style show here in Oz again, like the old Steve Vizard show or something.

Couldn't be every night though, not enough talent here to fill the show every night! :P

Wags

I too am really enjoying Craig Ferguson on Eleven.

btw I read somewhere that Shaun Micallef is currently in talks with Ten to start doing a Sunday night chat show type thing to replace Rove.

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The Vizard show was a complete rip-off of the Letterman/Carson shows. I used to watch Letterman in the US, come home and see Vizard do virtually the same show a few days later. It was only when the Letterman shows were finally brought to Oz, that people realized that Vizard wasn't original. Do we need another of those? I don't think so.

It was no secret that the Vizard show was a rip-off of the US tonight show, but it was good to see a local flavour to it, thats all I was saying.

Might be good to see it again, maybe with Micallef or someone?

Wags

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Whats with 11 converting/playing alot of the old 4:3 programms in 16:9 wide screen. EG The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, Every Body loves Raymond. etc.

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need to work on the logo, it's way to big and looks crap

I don't know if they're working on it. But it's still bloody huge and looks cr@p

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I pointed that with go! which is showing star trek TOS in 16:9

In this case is a rehash by Paramount, not a quick n dirty by 9.

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In this case is a rehash by Paramount, not a quick n dirty by 9.

Seems to me that Ten have taken easy route and are just cropping 4:3 SD masters themselves. As an example, Hogan's Heroes is available in an cropped HD widescreen version from CBS (which I believe was the version on Go!), yet the video quality of it on 11 (and other shows) is so poor.

UPDATE:

Family Ties is awkwardly cropped top and bottom and looks like VHS quality.

No wonder. Family Ties isn't available in HD.

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Seems to me that Ten have taken easy route and are just cropping 4:3 SD masters themselves.

In some cases that is quite possibly happening. For Star Trek on GO! Its not. GO!, according to the guides, is showing the rehashed abomination aniversary edition. Abomination? Well it is if you are an aficionado of the show. All Paramount appears to have done is slot in some particularly crappy CGI to replace scenes where models were used and not even bothered to do any restoration of the rest of the footage.

Not all 4:3 shows on ELEVEN have been given the zoom treatment. Why TEN (or where ever TEN gets the content from) decided to zoom some and not others is an interesting question.

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If I remember correctly, the first episode of 'Star Trek, Next Generation' was televised full frame (4:3)

As for the zoom treatment, I must say 'Everybody Loves Raymond' looks atrocious.. the decapitation of older brother Robert was a crack up though.

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As for the zoom treatment, I must say 'Everybody Loves Raymond' looks atrocious.

Agreed. The way characters heads are occasionally out-of-focus (near the screen cut-off) due to the zoom also doesn't help.

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What's the deal with these cropped 14:9 AR of old TV shows? If the studio remasters it and does the change then I guess we have to live with it, but the channels should not be doing a zoom in.

By the way, I'm sick of some news programs doing a similar zoom in on 4:3 footage. It often causes information at the screen bottom to be chopped off.

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Family ties was made in the 1980's of course it isn't going to be in HD

Correct but for the wrong reason. It was shot on video not film.

Shows like Seinfeld and ST:TOS were created long before HD broadcasts, but their film has been transferred to HD. The result is really quite good if you get to see it on an HD channel in HD format.

Those of us who remember Seinfeld on 9HD (not GEM) saw an excellent example of how old shows can look in HD.

The problem with GEM is that it's showing everything in SD quality right now. 7mate mostly too. 7TWO and GO can't show HD so that sucks. And ELEVEN appears to be just zooming and cropping SD material … this is for the benefit of all the kids with tiny LCD TVs in their bedroom. (Beneath 50-inch, there's not much point to HD for most people).

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Writing off a large slice of the viewers as 'kids in the bedroom' won't win you any prizes. There's a lot more than 'kids with tiny LCD TVs in their bedroom' out there when it comes to viewers that aren't going to get any significant benefit from a HD broadcast. So far the ratings seem to indicate that content over broadcast quality is the driver for the average viewer (if the ratings are to be believed).

All the complaining in the world isn't going to make much difference to what is actually broadcast. All said, the commercial FTAs take notice of one thing and one thing alone... the bottom line of their balance sheet. If something might increase their yearly results they'll do it. If it doesn't they'll drop it quicker than the proverbial hot potato. I suspect that if left to their own the commercial FTAs would cease HD and run three SD channels instead, possibly only government regulation keeps HD going.

A few years ago I commented that people that want to watch 'good quality' HD in this country have two choices: a) pay TV B) discs. The possibility of downloads aside, the point stands as valid today as it did then.

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What's the deal with these cropped 14:9 AR of old TV shows? If the studio remasters it and does the change then I guess we have to live with it, but the channels should not be doing a zoom in.

By the way, I'm sick of some news programs doing a similar zoom in on 4:3 footage. It often causes information at the screen bottom to be chopped off.

totally agree its a pretty cr@p situation. something I didnt even see in the us with their attrocious directtv 99 channels of cr@p

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Whats with those idiots on "the couch",would rather watch 5 mins of ad's than those dropkicks.

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Whats with those idiots on "the couch",would rather watch 5 mins of ad's than those dropkicks.

+1

Yeah, "Labby and Stav"—two clowns with radio faces who have no place on TV.

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