HomerJ Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Just wondering how many DTVers are planning on signing up for Netflix when it starts it's Aussie service on 24th March? I've seen an HD Netflix demo (from US) which looked surprisingly good, and in 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus. No content announced yet but some 4K will be available. I've got the Netflix app installed on my iPad which can also use Chromecast to connect via HDMI to my bedroom TV. My main TV (LG 65" 4K) has a Netflix app installed and is ready to go. Just need to sign up on Tuesday. Netflix HD uses about 3GB per hour. Their 4K uses approx 7GB per hour. Optus and iinet are offering unmetered Netflix data for subscribers. Optus to offer 6 months free Netflix with new plans next month. Edited March 22, 2015 by HomerJ
Will Graham Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Yep ... I'm on iinet and have an Oppo 105, so for $10 month is a no brainer Edit: it will be good to finally be able to use the Netflix button on the Oppo! Edited March 22, 2015 by Will Graham
peterca Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I'll stick with Foxtel, enjoy my live sports too much.
groovem Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I may give it a go. I am with TPG on a supposedly "Unlimited" plan, however it can be slow at times. Certainly not 4K capable until the NBN arrives which may be never in our area!
HomerJ Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 I'll stick with Foxtel, enjoy my live sports too much. Agreed. No doubt as a sports fan I want to keep Foxtel HD Sport (and History). But do I need Foxtel for movies or TV series? That's $20 per month for movies alone on Foxtel. Netflix will be around $10 to $15 per month probably, and that's for multiple viewing devices, not the $25 per month per box Foxtel charges for multiroom. It will be interesting to see what happens in this space over next year.
pgdownload Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Agreed. No doubt as a sports fan I want to keep Foxtel HD Sport (and History). But do I need Foxtel for movies or TV series? That's $20 per month for movies alone on Foxtel. Netflix will be around $10 to $15 per month probably, and that's for multiple viewing devices, not the $25 per month per box Foxtel charges for multiroom. It will be interesting to see what happens in this space over next year. Foxtel have been realigning to meet these challenges (how successfully we'll see) -They got spooked by the original NBN. They don't have to offer as much Value as Netflix (knowing most of their subscribers are just in it for the sports and that won't change) FWIW most of these new players are offering monthly $10 subscriptions so I would be surprised if even most Foxtel households didn't have a gander. Regards Peter Gillespie
pgdownload Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I may give it a go. I am with TPG on a supposedly "Unlimited" plan, however it can be slow at times. Certainly not 4K capable until the NBN arrives which may be never in our area! Perhaps I'm to close to the topic, but all the politics and technologies aside, I'm in no doubt almost all households will be boosted to 25 Mbps (top ADSL2+) speeds over the next 5 years. Your household might be in year six, but it will come. Regards Peter Gillespie
pgdownload Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Netflix HD uses about 3GB per hour. Their 4K uses approx 7GB per hour. Optus and iinet are offering unmetered Netflix data for subscribers. Optus to offer 6 months free Netflix with new plans next month. Yep, that's pretty concerning. NBN fibre no probs. But if you're one of the three million households that will be on cable in a year or so (like me) then those sorts of bandwidths are very high. That's because cable is shared, so 30 households watching Netflix in your street will chew up all the available bandwidth. If 10 go 4K then its lights out. (This ignores any other user downloading anything in your street) Apparently the cable will be upgraded to 1000Mbps capability (instead of 100Mbps as now) so hopefully we'll be alright. Regards Peter Gillespie
Eth Nick Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 What happened to plans whereby those on cable will be the first forced into NBN (after 18 months of the NBN cabling being run in the street)?
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mwd Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Yep, that's pretty concerning. NBN fibre no probs. But if you're one of the three million households that will be on cable in a year or so (like me) then those sorts of bandwidths are very high. That's because cable is shared, so 30 households watching Netflix in your street will chew up all the available bandwidth. If 10 go 4K then its lights out. (This ignores any other user downloading anything in your street) Apparently the cable will be upgraded to 1000Mbps capability (instead of 100Mbps as now) so hopefully we'll be alright. Regards Peter Gillespie My feelings are that if Netflix is marketed properly and it is cheap there will be a good takeup which will overload the internet for at least a few years until the infrastructure catches up.
Will Graham Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Perhaps I'm to close to the topic, but all the politics and technologies aside, I'm in no doubt almost all households will be boosted to 25 Mbps (top ADSL2+) speeds over the next 5 years. Your household might be in year six, but it will come. Regards Peter Gillespie Mate I have the fastest I can get (notionally 20+ Mbps) and the fastest I have ever been able to squeeze out of it is 9.750 Mbps ... feels like false advertising to me!
pgdownload Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 What happened to plans whereby those on cable will be the first forced into NBN (after 18 months of the NBN cabling being run in the street)? Those plans are in progress. Any house that has fibre run past it will be connected to the fibre (lucky them). Before streets can be switch to a cable NBN 1) the exchanges need to be upgraded (to hopefully handle the new bandwidth) 2) as the cable run out was a bit hodge podge (some streets have cable run but the next one over doesn't in some areas) the gaps will need to be filled in. FWIW the original NBN planned to never use the existing cable setup. This always seemed silly to me as I thought they could at least use the cable speeds as the rest of the country got upgraded and then fibre the cable areas. What I now realise is because of the reasons above the existing cable network could never act as a bridging NBN. So instead of spending the billions to upgrade the cable network only to decommission it Labour just went for a straight replacement. Liberals have gone with the cable upgrade cost instead. I can see the cable replace/upgrade debate having merits on both sides. The real losers are going to be those poor saps that end up still on the Telstra copper network. Regards Peter Gillespie
pgdownload Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Mate I have the fastest I can get (notionally 20+ Mbps) and the fastest I have ever been able to squeeze out of it is 9.750 Mbps ... feels like false advertising to me! You're talking about an ADSL2+ connection I assume? 10Mbps puts you in the top 5% of population for ADSL 2+ download speeds. The new NBN promises a minimum of 25Mbps. Unfortunately the fine print only promises that to the 'node'. What happens between the node and your house is still a huge unknown. Guess we'll see. Regards Peter Gillespie
Blish Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I now have 3 foxtel boxes in 3 rooms, but will get netflix for sure.
bassmaniac69 Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I've been using Netflix overseas with Getflix for about a year now, and it's worked ok so far. I watch maybe 2-3 shows/movies a month, the kids a bit more. I am also with iinet so I would look at swapping over to Nettflix here in Australia with the quote free deal on iinet. That said, if the content is severly lacking then I may continue as I am. I haven't; checked Netflix here out too closely, so it will be interesting when I get of my a$$ and check it all out to see if it's worth swapping!
Will Graham Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 You're talking about an ADSL2+ connection I assume? 10Mbps puts you in the top 5% of population for ADSL 2+ download speeds. The new NBN promises a minimum of 25Mbps. Unfortunately the fine print only promises that to the 'node'. What happens between the node and your house is still a huge unknown. Guess we'll see. Regards Peter Gillespie Good to hear PG ... A mate in Melb gets 38+ Mbps in the nbn ... He recons he's been conned and it should be much more... I've been jealous for ages.
Eth Nick Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Those plans are in progress. Any house that has fibre run past it will be connected to the fibre (lucky them). Before streets can be switch to a cable NBN 1) the exchanges need to be upgraded (to hopefully handle the new bandwidth) 2) as the cable run out was a bit hodge podge (some streets have cable run but the next one over doesn't in some areas) the gaps will need to be filled in. FWIW the original NBN planned to never use the existing cable setup. This always seemed silly to me as I thought they could at least use the cable speeds as the rest of the country got upgraded and then fibre the cable areas. What I now realise is because of the reasons above the existing cable network could never act as a bridging NBN. So instead of spending the billions to upgrade the cable network only to decommission it Labour just went for a straight replacement. Liberals have gone with the cable upgrade cost instead. I can see the cable replace/upgrade debate having merits on both sides. The real losers are going to be those poor saps that end up still on the Telstra copper network. Regards Peter Gillespie Sounds like the Liberals are using (much off the) the costs Labour had planned for a FTTP setup to upgrade the cable network then?Who will remain on Telstra's 'old' copper? I understand the last mile (from house to Node) may be new copper runs in some/many areas, leaving the potential problem within the house itself, where the 'old' cabling/terminations could impact things. Streaming in HD may struggle at my place - 9mbps download speeds. Not getting hopes up. Edited March 22, 2015 by Ralfi
HomerJ Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Netflix Pricing leak: One Screen plan gets customers standard definition (DVD-quality) content on one screen for $8.99 per month, Two Screen plan gets you high-definition content and two different screens $11.99 per month. Four Screen family plan gets you 4K/UHD content across four screens for $14.99 per month. They will offer a free one month trial. Edit: all prices in AUD Edited March 22, 2015 by HomerJ
HomerJ Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 Mate I have the fastest I can get (notionally 20+ Mbps) and the fastest I have ever been able to squeeze out of it is 9.750 Mbps ... feels like false advertising to me! I have Optus cable on 100Mbps Speed Pack and can get around 10 to 11MBps downloads which is as expected since 1MB = 8Mb Anyway if Netflix HD uses approx. 3GB per hour then you need about 7.5Mbps (just under 1MBps) to sustain that bandwidth over an hour.
minty Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Provided they don't crop widescreen movies to fit standard 16x9 screens like Foxtel do, I'm in. I only know what I've read here (and I've skimmed through that) but it seems very cheap to me, what's the catch (limited movies, mono sound, no new releases, etc.)?
dave_con Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I have NBN, and as long as there isn't an "Australia Tax" tacked on when they start tomorrow, I'm definitely keen to sign up for the 4K package...
GaryCook Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) What programs are you guys looking at watching on Netflix? Cheers Gary Edited March 22, 2015 by GaryCook
dave_con Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 House of Cards, Daredevil, Walking Dead (we're a bit behind on that one), movies, etc. I don't know exactly what's going to be on there, but we're planning on trying it out and seeing if it's worth it.
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