pgdownload Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Problem is though content is being spread over Netflix,Presto,Stan which I think will make it hard to justify paying for all three still its better this way than none at all cheers laurie Would you prefer that just one company provided (had a stranglehold) on all the content? O right, that was the $100 a month Foxtel up until a few weeks ago Regards Peter Gillespie Edited April 8, 2015 by pgdownload
pgdownload Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Yes, in the U.S. content is available on multiple platforms ... We are still seeing the old habits of trying to restrict and confine Australian consumers so they can be milked ... Not a free market yet. These are new players in the Oz market. There's still a lot of content locked up by existing contracts with local distributors. No doubt one of the reasons for the delay in entering the Oz market was waiting to be able to acquire rights to some content. No doubt a lot of past content will become available over time, but I'd see the new players as being much more amenable to content sharing and latest releases etc. as we go forward. Regards Peter Gillespie
MrC Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) ok ... so I signed up for the 1 month trial last night. Very easy to follow instructions, no problem at all. Well done Netflix, in terms of ease of use. I signed up for the 2 device HD service. Having already seen the House of Cards series on Bluray, where the picture quality is absolutely stunning on my Cinemascope screen (I have masking), I thought this would be the ultimate comparison to see how the Netflix streamed HD content stacked up. Well I can only say that I am profoundly disappointed .... there is a clear HD logo when you click to start the show ... but come on, this is not HD content. My eyes tell me it looks a tad better than upscaled SD content. If this is what Netflix HD content is like, then I will be cancelling my Trial before the month runs out. Has anyone else made the Bluray v HD streaming comparison ? Perhaps with my QuikFlix Blurays I have been spoilt ... my Oppo 103D picture output (with 30% Darbee processing) is superb. Oh and by the way FoxTel HD live sport kills the Netflix HD for picture quality. Edited April 10, 2015 by Mr C
groovem Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I have watched Orange Is The New Black on my Oppo projector. The quality is OK IMO, not quite as good as Blu-ray, but much better than DVD. Maybe you have ISP issues, I have heard that iiNet for one has problems with streaming due to a technical problem.
cwt Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Was wondering if the pq is throttled back like in the U.S. if your isp's bandwidth isnt crash hot Read also that a gigabit router is better than a 10/100 one and cat 6 cable is faster than cat5 Netflix is what’s known as a bi-directional service. As your movie is streamed to you, your system sends a signal back to Netflix which Netflix uses to determine whether the connection is able to handle the video load. When it can’t, Netflix automatically adjusts the content/stream quality so that you can continue to watch what you’re streaming, albeit at a lower quality of video and audio.
MrC Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I will be asking Netflix what issues may exist, but to be honest, I am not aware of any problems ......
jutta Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I'm enjoying it. I'm not watching Netflix for premium content. Just all the things I wouldn't buy. I'll save the good stuff for bluray
MrC Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 After exhaustive phone calls I have learnt that to receive the Netflix HD service you need a minimum line speed of 5.1 Mbps. Mine is 2.5 Mbps .... hence I cannot get the Netflix HD service! Great! Nothing I can do until I get NBN.
jutta Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Watching Prey right now. Best AQ I've had as yet. PQ not bad either except for one scene that was grain central
MrC Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Watching Prey right now. Best AQ I've had as yet. PQ not bad either except for one scene that was grain central What is your internet line speed in Mbps ?
jutta Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Not sure other than stupidly slow. Some nights I can't even open a any Netflix shows. AppleTV is worse though. When I pay for NBA live app and you can't even stream SD content. Well it won't even try sometimes. I get the unable message.
cwt Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 After exhaustive phone calls I have learnt that to receive the Netflix HD service you need a minimum line speed of 5.1 Mbps. Mine is 2.5 Mbps .... hence I cannot get the Netflix HD service! Great! Nothing I can do until I get NBN. Thanks for going to the trouble Mr C ; in the same boat mine is 2.57 Mbps at the moment according to this .http://www.ozspeedtest.com/bandwidth-test/internode-speed-test/55/
Gale Fan Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 OMGoodness....Netfllx, what have you done to my 'unlimited' downloads? My plan of 150Gb/month (75GB peak) was used in one week and then 'shaped' (aka throttled) back to prehistoric speeds causing buffering and hair greying to occur! As HD downloads are 3GB/hr I upped my plan (250GB peak-basically all the waking hours) to see how we go. I can see those IPs offering 'unlimited' Netflix downloads are bound to do well. And unfortunately NBN is not in my area yet either :-(
MrC Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) In speaking to one of the American phone-centre representatives for Netflix (one of 3 phone calls I made), they are shocked to hear of the speeds we have in Australia. Having told me that you need a minimum 5.1 Mbps line speed to receive the HD Netflix service, they said that in the USA a line speed to 25 Mbps is a typical speed. And here I am in the suburb of Stirling, Perth WA getting a speed of 2.5 Mbps ..... and with no timetable yet for the NBN roll-out for Stirling any time soon! We ARE mugs living down under. We have put up with poor internet speed for too long. While the iiNet guyz and the Netflix people were sympathetic to my cause, I now have to re-think my HD subscription plans. Perhaps I have to hope that the QuikFlix service in sending Bluray discs in the mail does not fold. There is a danger in Joe Average opting for Netflix and the like, and the home theatre enthusiast, in his quest for the best picture possible, is once again side-lined and relegated to the niche-market. Edited April 12, 2015 by Mr C
MrC Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Not sure other than stupidly slow. Some nights I can't even open a any Netflix shows. AppleTV is worse though. When I pay for NBA live app and you can't even stream SD content. Well it won't even try sometimes. I get the unable message. Visit one of the many mirror web-sites and test your line speed ... I have done this for a couple of years, and mine is consistently around 2.5 Mbps. I am hard-wired within my house, so I am getting the fastest I can ... not my fault I cannot get the 5.1 Mbps for HD Netflix.
jutta Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Visit one of the many mirror web-sites and test your line speed ... I have done this for a couple of years, and mine is consistently around 2.5 Mbps. I am hard-wired within my house, so I am getting the fastest I can ... not my fault I cannot get the 5.1 Mbps for HD Netflix.I'm getting mid 3's on my phone wifi. Not sure if the OPPO dongle would be the same. That said I'm unable to watch any movie I've opened so far tonight
jutta Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 I gave up trying to play Titanfall on my xboxone. It was pointless.
mwd Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Not many customers going to have any joy streaming 4k content here then. Although there are reports that some of the so called 4k content from Netflix is poorer quality than 1080 2k not all but some.
dave_con Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Holy crap, I almost feel bad for saying this, but I have the NBN, and have no problems at all. The HD is generally on par with Apple TV, and the 4K stuff is excellent. My wife would only spring for the 25 MBPS NBN, and there's only a two second wait for "House of Cards" to start with that. Hopefully the NBN gets to you guys soon.
darockk Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) I have NBN 25Mbit/s, can stream Australian netflix in HD perfectly even during peak times. The problem arises however when switching to US netflix, (where all the good movies are located) I cant get HD during peak times. As soon as midnight passes, i can get 720, then around 1am I can finally get 1080. So good luck to those on a slower connection trying to watch US netflix in HD when I can't even get it on a fibre connection. HD movie quality is pretty good though. On a 50 inch and below tv set most people probably notice any differences to the blu ray version. On a 140 inch projector screen you will notice the difference to the blu ray version: The picture seems darker, and colours are not as vibrant. The 5.1 audio quality is kind of disappointing too. I will still rent blu rays, and only watch catalog movies on netflix (most movies on netflix are old catalog titles anyway) Edited April 15, 2015 by darockk
pgdownload Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I cant get HD during peak times. As soon as midnight passes, i can get 720, then around 1am I can finally get 1080. That doesn't make much sense. At the times you're trying to watch US Netflix its between 9am and midday in the US. Hardly peak times (there or here). The method and speed of accessing the US Netflix wouldn't have changed, so anyone doing it before shouldn't have seen any change. Unless you want to go with a conspiracy theory that US Netflix are throttling their Oz feed...? Regards Peter Gillespie
darockk Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I meant its my isp being overloaded during peak hours, not us netflix. Which doesnt make much sense because i can stream the aussie netflix just fine in hd quality during peak times and my speed test reveals about 12mbit/s. The issue is gettting to us netflix during peak. I would like to see if others have the same issue.
Will Graham Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 The "pipe" comming into Australia have been hitting the capacity for the last month or so, limiting OS download speeds.
darockk Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 is there a news article about this pipe hitting capacity? I would like to read up more about this.
HomerJ Posted April 17, 2015 Author Posted April 17, 2015 I'm enjoying it. I'm not watching Netflix for premium content. Just all the things I wouldn't buy. I'll save the good stuff for bluray Me too. Blu-ray for new movies. Netflix for TV Series and older movies only. I may stop Foxtel movies if HD quality doesn't improve soon. On Netflix picture quality. I have noticed that the quality can fall off at Internet use peak times. I've been watching some 4K stuff and that can look between stunning to below HD average. (But always better than Foxtel HD movies though).
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