kolzy23 Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Hi Guys, I was wanting some clarity on this, if someone could assist. Did Hisense offer 2 different 58inch Tvs last year? Were any of them 100Hz? Thanks in advance.
gbickle1503560852 Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 What exactly do you mean by 100hz?... Do you mean does it have motion smoothing? or does it accept 100hz when connected to a PC? The Hisense model 58k322uw does have motion smoothing and it works in 4k .. Its a mediocre system though and introduces some artifacts and cant really be fine tuned. Colours are pretty hard to get right too compared to a Big name brand. Cannot comment on the New 2017 58N5 model as to whats been improved and by how much There are lots of models of TVs that claim 100/200/400hz etc but it has nothing to do with the panel "refresh rate" as such. Its just a marketing term for the motion smoothing system
kolzy23 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Posted June 9, 2017 Would this Tv be ok to watch sports on? Ive assumed that unless a tv is at least 100Hz in may not be the best to watch sports etc on??
gbickle1503560852 Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Yes it is fine for Sports and does the motion interpolation/smoothing that the salesman mean when they say 100hz/200hz support. It's better than your polaroid/kogan/toshiba/bauhn/sonique motion systems but not as good as the Sony's for example...
kolzy23 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Posted June 9, 2017 Great, thank you so much. I appreciate your help
pgdownload Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Motion Interpolation (100hz etc) is about the TV taking 2 frames and calculating (guessing) 1 or more frames in between - to smooth out the image. It can work well but many people end up turning it off as it can create a strange effect where players seem to 'float' across the field etc.That said this TV should be fine for sport. IME all sport generally looks great close up and pretty poor (even in HD) when pulled back and roaming the field. Regards Peter Gillespie
gbickle1503560852 Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Are you thinking of buying a 2016 hisense? ... Why not the 58N5 2017 model?..it can be purchased for around $900 and im sure there are a lot of improvements over the 2016 model.
JSmith Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, kolzy23 said: Ive assumed that unless a tv is at least 100Hz in may not be the best to watch sports etc on Marketing hyperbole. JSmith
kolzy23 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Posted June 9, 2017 Thanks for your feedback Peter, much appreciated also gbickle, i found a Hisense 58 inch from last year on sale for $800, you are correct about the 58N5 can get that for $920. I am also able to get a Hisense 55inch M7000 at $950 or a Samsung 55in KU600 for $1100 so now im just in a complete state of confusion lol jsmith, thanks mate, this is what im starting to figure out lol, Every sales person has a different story lol
gbickle1503560852 Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) A way to get high quality smooth Motion on any TV is to use a PC with Dmitrirender or Svp for interpolation. Very useful for budget TVs. Edited June 9, 2017 by gbickle
Owen Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Sport is shot at 50 fps in OZ and needs no help from interpolation. Interpolation quality is not measured in Hz. A display that "updates" at 200Hz can be called a 200Hz set even if it doest use motion motion interrelation at all. With brand name TV's there is normally no visible or measurable difference between 100Hz and 200Hz, its just marketing. Motion interpolation is intended for 24fps movies NOT 50fps sport. An old 50Hz 720p Plasma TV with no interpolation will out perform a 200/240Hz 4K LCD or OLED TV for free to air or Foxtel sport because it has much greater native motion resolution. Native motion resolution rules.
JSmith Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 8 hours ago, kolzy23 said: Hisense 55inch M7000 at $950 or a Samsung 55in KU600 for $1100 Get the Sammy... JSmith
pgdownload Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 13 hours ago, JSmith said: Get the Sammy... JSmith I'd agree. For the extra $200 I'd go Samsung over Hisense. You should also be able to find it on display in store somewhere? Regards Peter Gillespie
Satanica Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 On 2017-6-9 at 10:33 PM, Owen said: An old 50Hz 720p Plasma TV with no interpolation will out perform a 200/240Hz 4K LCD or OLED TV for free to air or Foxtel sport because it has much greater native motion resolution. Native motion resolution rules. Not if the technology is prone to burning in the Foxtel Sport watermark XD
gbickle1503560852 Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Spent a bit of time having a look at the Hisense. Its actually quite high contrast which was surprising. Noticeably more punchy than the 55" Samsung base model 4k next to it. The Samsung looked washed out compared to the Hisense (Both had 9HD playing). The Colours on the Hisense were much more accurate than last years 58inch on default.
JSmith Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 9 hours ago, gbickle1503560852 said: The Samsung looked washed out compared to the Hisense (Both had 9HD playing). The Colours on the Hisense were much more accurate than last years 58inch on default. A bright showroom is no place to properly evaluate a TV... the store often choose settings on each TV to make one look better than the other depending on stock, margins etc. I'm not saying your observations were correct or not, just that an instore comparison can be troublesome, simply misleading and often useless. If you're looking for great picture quality you may need to go up in price and model series in any brand. JSmith
gbickle1503560852 Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 15 hours ago, JSmith said: A bright showroom is no place to properly evaluate a TV... the store often choose settings on each TV to make one look better than the other depending on stock, margins etc. I'm not saying your observations were correct or not, just that an instore comparison can be troublesome, simply misleading and often useless. If you're looking for great picture quality you may need to go up in price and model series in any brand. JSmith Yes but they both under the same light and both set to their standard vivid settings. Also both watching 9HD... Trust me the margin in the Hisense is about half of the Samsungs... Im not saying the Hisense is a great TV (I own an LG Oled) and would have to have it for a few days in my room to properly audition it. Just found it Interesting that the picture looks much more premium than last years 58inch. It also has the slight glossy glass look on the screen like the 7000uled series whereas last years 58inch had the matte screen.
FlashGordon Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) I actually bought 2 of these 58N5's for the spare /guest bedrooms and the also a new 50N4 for our bedroom. For the cost alone they are worth every cent and the picture quality, via Beyonwiz units, is excellent. The Boss herself had no complaints regarding picture or sound quality, and I am sure we won't get any complaints from guests or relatives staying over, except perhaps for the abysmal standard of commercial TV quality in Australia.... ? The main reason I eventually bought these TV's, was down to cost for the 3 units, but just as importantly, the picture quality in the stores compared to competitors on that day was excellent! In the lounge with the HM system, I would go bigger and better, when the time comes to eventually replace the Panasonic....in 2 or 3 years time. Cheers. Edited June 14, 2017 by FlashGordon
JSmith Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 On 12/06/2017 at 2:13 PM, gbickle1503560852 said: vivid settings Also known as torch mode... JSmith
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