powerav Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Well I don't think I can tell the difference between cables but at least my hearing is good so that can't be the issue. Worthwhile getting one of these free test if you see the van parked somewhere, only tall takes 3 minutes Edited October 3, 2017 by powerav
Happy Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 i done the same test a few months back my result was that my hearing is as good as an infant's - but no i can't hear the cable differences either. not biased enough. 2
PorkBun69s Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Did one a month back - all good! unfortunately I can hear differences in cable changes. I'm in the process of changing over equipment, cables & speaker placement - still working out what sounds best to me.. oh joy.
TerryO Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) I also had one of these free tests done last week, right ear not so good it turns out, then was told that the inner ear was blocked with wax so once its unblocked hearing should be much better ... one hopes so anyway. cheers Terry Edited October 3, 2017 by TerryO
Nigel Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 I bought the ear cleaning syringe kit from the chemist 2 yrs ago. Cheap, works perfectly - in fact it's been a while I might go and flush out my ears now. Funny how one ear waxes up more than the other. Certainly can hear high freqs better.
Kaynin Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 If I did the test my results would skew the average to the severe end of the scale...
Wimbo Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 How accurate is the machine in Audio brain perception? Cause if you can't hear the difference in some cables, these tests might all be hocus pocus. 1
cafe67 Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 More detailed/elaborate tests can be had at your nearest lion hearing centre have found them too be good
jeromelang Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 This service only test your ears up to 4kHz (or 8kHz). It is severely inadequate for audiophiles...
betocool Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 If you can hear the high pitched tone at the very end of Sgt. Pepper's you're fine.
powerav Posted October 4, 2017 Author Posted October 4, 2017 15 hours ago, jeromelang said: This service only test your ears up to 4kHz (or 8kHz). It is severely inadequate for audiophiles... Yeah I was wondering that. I need to get tested at 124khz
audio_file Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 I have had a theory for a while. It's that people with bad hearing are more likely to hear differences in cables and other components that change the tonal balance. My reason is that our brains adapt in real time to compensate for volume differences, and if you don't hear that well, your brain works harder to do this.
Happy Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, audio_file said: I have had a theory for a while. It's that people with bad hearing are more likely to hear differences in cables and other components that change the tonal balance. My reason is that our brains adapt in real time to compensate for volume differences, and if you don't hear that well, your brain works harder to do this. aka bias
audio_file Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 8 hours ago, Happy said: aka bias No. Bias has more to do with hearing what you want to hear, and your brain changing your perception to that. What I mentioned has to do with the brain not getting enough information from your ears and being unable to make adjustments as a result.
Happy Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, audio_file said: No. Bias has more to do with hearing what you want to hear, and your brain changing your perception to that. What I mentioned has to do with the brain not getting enough information from your ears and being unable to make adjustments as a result. Then I don’t get your reason in the initial post at all. How does that explain the phenomenon?
audio_file Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Happy said: Then I don’t get your reason in the initial post at all. How does that explain the phenomenon? It's hard to explain, that's probably why it doesn't make sense. If you try to hear a conversation in the midst of other sounds, your brain will try to filter the other sounds out and alter the perceived volume and tonal balance so you can understand the conversation. It's the same with music. When you hear a live performance with a badly set up tonal balance, it might sound very off in the beginning, but after a while it might sound OK. Maybe not great, but better than in the beginning. This could be the brain altering the perceived sound to what it thinks it should be. Now all the information the brain gets comes from the ears, so if your ears don't hear certain frequencies, the brain won't know what to do there. So in theory if you have some hearing damage and don't hear properly, your brain will do a worse job of altering the perceived sound, and due to less alteration, the sound might be more real. At least the parts you hear, because the brain will be too busy trying to patch the gaps that the result is less "fixed". If this is true, then someone without hearing damage would perceive different systems with different tonal balance as a similar sound, while someone with hearing damage might hear differences in the different systems. Edited October 5, 2017 by audio_file
Happy Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 Ok. Can’t say I am persuaded at all, but who cares.
audio_file Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, Happy said: Ok. Can’t say I am persuaded at all, but who cares. Kind of like saying the hearing damage prevents your bias from working. So in that way it's the opposite of the bias.
Happy Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, audio_file said: Kind of like saying the hearing damage prevents your bias from working. So in that way it's the opposite of the bias. Yeah I get that but the logics make nil sense to me. But I’m not motivated enough to go through every each flaw. As I said, who cares.
audio_file Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, Happy said: Yeah I get that but the logics make nil sense to me. But I’m not motivated enough to go through every each flaw. As I said, who cares. It is also completely possible that I have no idea what I'm talking about! 2
Blk plastic Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 If you really want to know what those flappers either side of your head are up to, book yourself a session with an Ear Nose and Throat specialist. Their hearing tests take a lot longer than 3 minutes. 1
Citroen Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Only so they can charge you a lot more! Oh, and most ENT's don't do hearing tests. They leave that to the Audiologists.
swervyn Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Hmmm, I thought "audiologists" was a non recognised profession? ie: anyone can start up a "hearing " clinic and sell hearing aids. I may be wrong, happy to be told that I am I did an online hearing test, was suggested to use headphones but used the pc speaker option. Was detected as having normal hearing for my age which is a load of bollocks unless everyone my age is hard of hearing
MLXXX Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Blk plastic said: If you really want to know what those flappers either side of your head are up to, book yourself a session with an Ear Nose and Throat specialist. Their hearing tests take a lot longer than 3 minutes. 30 minutes ago, Citroen said: Only so they can charge you a lot more! Oh, and most ENT's don't do hearing tests. They leave that to the Audiologists. It's years since I saw an audiologist's hearing test results but I do recall that the test graphs did not go up to particularly high frequencies. I think the focus is on whether the subject might benefit from a hearing aid, so there are tests of intelligibility of spoken words at low levels or in the presence of noise. These are not tests of ability to hear detail in reproduced music. But they could help a person decide whether a hearing aid might be worthwhile for day to day living. 1
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