jdh500 Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kaynin said: I still paid less than price of a new 8805A $6,500 one. Yes, its still pretty much line ball as I’m paying less than $6500 for a new 8805A. Luckily I wont have to bother sending it anywhere to have it upgraded that was also of value to me too. JDH 1
betty boop Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kaynin said: Yes, for $1,200. I purchased my 8805 at the start of the year. Lucky for Marantz, when including the $1,200 'A" upgrade on mine I still paid less than price of a new 8805A $6,500 one. yep fortunately rode the wave of discounting start of the year myself too... am sure they knew it was coming 4 minutes ago, jdh500 said: Yes, but at a much higher cost than what it was from an AV-8802 to an AV-8802A, I think that model hdmi upgrade was under $400, however going from the AV-8805 to AV-8805A, you get slugged around $1200, I guess a tax on early adopters. indeed thats the case...but level of complexity is to another level i think...we are paying less than euro price for upgrade it seems but much more on usa price though they do have state taxes not factored in. 1 minute ago, jdh500 said: Yes, its still pretty much line ball as I’m paying less than $6500 for a new 8805A. Luckily I wont have to bother sending it anywhere to have it upgraded that was also of value to me too. JDH definitely glad jumped n it as its a great deal really . 1
betty boop Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 More courtesy of jdsmoothie on avs owners in the us … great that we can upload via app avsaved audyssey calibration back post update … [QUOTE="jdsmoothie, post: 60836546, member: 7847949"] Marantz has now officially announced the AV8805 "A" upgrade program which started on June 15, 2021. The "A" upgrade will cost $599 (USA)/$749(CA) with the AV8805A (ie. HDMI 2.1 board installed at the factory) available now with MSRP of $4999. Although "Ground" shipping (3-7 days) is included both ways with the upgrade kit purchase, for an additional fee you can also select either "Expedited shipping (2-5 days)" or "Overnight shipping (1-2 days)." Purchase the "A" upgrade kit by clicking on the link below (unknown as to why it's now in French) Note that they may be limiting the number of kits that can be purchased each day so you must wait for it to read "Add to Cart" in order to complete the purchase. AV8805 Mise à niveau HDMI 8K L'upgrade HDMI 8K pour le Marantz AV8805 - offre les toutes dernières spécifications HDMI, y compris les capacités de transmission 8K/60Hz et 4K/120Hz, afin que vous puissiez profiter de tous vos besoins de divertissement. AV Separates | Marantz UPGRADED FEATURES - One HDMI input connector (HDMI input #7) and two HDMI output connectors (HDMI OUT MONITOR 1 and 2) support 8K 60/50 Hz and 4K 120/100 Hz pass-through. ** NOTE: The HDMI input #7 8k cannot be selected for ZONE 2. - All HDMI input/output connectors support the HDR10+, Dynamic HDR, VRR (Variable Refresh Rate), QMS (Quick Media Switching), and QFT (Quick Frame Transport) functions. - The copy protection standard HDCP 2.3 is supported. - The HDMI input #7 will be assigned to “AUX2 (8K)” as a default input source. ** NOTE: Along with the above, the unassigned HDMI input connector (ie. CD) is changed from HDMI 7 to HDMI 6. - The following information will be displayed when “HDMI Signal Info.” or “HDMI Monitor 1 / HDMI Monitor 2” is selected in the setup menu. 8K signal / HDR10+ / Dynamic HDR / ALLM (All Low Latency Mode) / VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) / QMS (Quick Media Switching) / QFT (Quick Frame Transport) / eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) - The “4K Signal Format” in the setup menu will be renamed as “4K/8K Signal Format” and “8K Enhanced” mode will be newly added. Select “8K Enhanced” mode to allow 8K or 4K 120Hz pass-through. ** NOTE: The default 4k/8k SIgnal Format setting after the upgrade is changed from “Standard” to “Enhanced”. - In the “Resolution” setting for i/p Scaler of the setup menu, the “8K” setting for 8K upscaling is added. ** NOTE: The “4K(60/50)” setting is integrated into the “4K” setting, the “1080p:24Hz” setting is integrated into the “1080p” setting, and the frame rate conversion function is removed. - When powered ON, the front panel display shows “AV8805A”, instead of “AV8805”. The added “A” means the product has been upgraded. ** NOTE: Press INFO button on the remote control unit twice to display information about video input and output signals at the screen. IMPORTANT POST UPGRADE NOTES: 1. Once the upgrade is performed, the following settings will reset to factory default settings. The backup memory such as volume level will be erased as well. It is necessary to setup the product once again when the product is returned. • Audyssey® Setup • Speaker Config. • Changing the “Quick Select Names” • Network connection • Last function memory • Various settings using the custom installer • All the other settings in the backup memory ** NOTE: The “Save & Load” function does not work. The saved settings cannot be restored once the upgrade is performed on the product. 2 . The warranty for parts and labor of the "A" upgrade is 90 days. The warranty period of the AV8805A is the same as before the upgrade (eg. 3 years from purchase of a "new" unit from an authorized dealer or 1 year from purchase of a "refurbished" unit from an authorized refurbished dealer). 3. If the upgrade is performed, the product cannot be returned to the state before the upgrade. Additional notes: 1. You should be able to use the MultEQ Editor app to upload a previously saved Audyssey EQ after the upgrade. 2. Shipping is included both ways with the upgrade kit purchase price. Be sure to include a copy of the paid "A" Upgrade Kit invoice with your returned AV8805 as this shows your phone and email contact information. 3. On the off chance that you do NOT receive a pre-paid shipping label with the return box that is shipped to you, call Marantz at (844) 298-5032 to have them send you a pre-paid shipping label after confirming your "A" Kit upgrade purchase order number. 4. If your AV8805 has yet to go out of the 3 year warranty and requires warranty repair in addition to the "A" upgrade, it is important to send your unit in before your 3 year warranty expires as the aforementioned 90 day warranty only applies to the "A" upgrade. On the flip side, if the AV8805 is outside of the 3 year warranty, the "A" upgrade can still be purchased as the upgrade is not a warranty related upgrade. [/QUOTE] 1
cwt Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, betty boop said: More courtesy of jdsmoothie on avs owners in the us … - The “4K Signal Format” in the setup menu will be renamed as “4K/8K Signal Format” and “8K Enhanced” mode will be newly added. Select “8K Enhanced” mode to allow 8K or 4K 120Hz pass-through. ** NOTE: The default 4k/8k SIgnal Format setting after the upgrade is changed from “Standard” to “Enhanced”. - In the “Resolution” setting for i/p Scaler of the setup menu, the “8K” setting for 8K upscaling is added. ** NOTE: The “4K(60/50)” setting is integrated into the “4K” setting, the “1080p:24Hz” setting is integrated into the “1080p” setting, and the frame rate conversion function is removed. Just shows how complicated integrating these new frame rates is Al with the frame rate auto conversion getting the boot . This looks like good news as frame rates are left for tvs and projectors possibly Would be fascinating to compare the 8k upscaling to a 8k tv's efforts ; one day Marantz may tell us what chipset they use ; the old days you would read words like HQV and REON ; now thats marketing I wonder if there were more than 1 hdmi input what the price would have been or if the time factor for conversion was a factor ; quicker the better for most .. Edited June 26, 2021 by cwt 1
betty boop Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 looks like marantz has come though with the A upgrade for someone in the us already...posted by mlknez on avs owners thread with his av8805A he just got back from the upgrade... looks similar effort as they did from 8802 to av8802A some years ago... 2
IanRM Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 Is anybody else getting replies from the Australian distributor of the AV8805? Qualifi have yet to respond to a single email from me on the 8805. I emailed their info@qualifi.com.au and used their website enquiry form on how to register interest for the upgrade and….crickets. Any ideas? 1
betty boop Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, IanRM said: Is anybody else getting replies from the Australian distributor of the AV8805? Qualifi have yet to respond to a single email from me on the 8805. I emailed their info@qualifi.com.au and used their website enquiry form on how to register interest for the upgrade and….crickets. Any ideas? I just rang them up, same number as before (03) 8542 1144 for qualifi service. Spoke to human, who asked me to send an email(with my original warranty registration email attached as has all details they need), to a sound united email address service@qualifi.com.au and got a response back which was to be taken that interest is registered... theres only a trickle coming through from what i understand .... no doubt the us/eu is soaking up most of them :D when i spoke to them all the incoming deliveries were already spoken for and I would just be in a queue. Am in no rush... as long as happens at some stage Edited July 1, 2021 by betty boop
jdh500 Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) Still waiting on a firm ETA on my new AV-8805A to replace my current AV-8802A !!!! JDH Edited July 2, 2021 by jdh500
IanRM Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 4 hours ago, betty boop said: I just rang them up, same number as before (03) 8542 1144 for qualifi service. Spoke to human, who asked me to send an email(with my original warranty registration email attached as has all details they need), to a sound united email address service@qualifi.com.au and got a response back which was to be taken that interest is registered... theres only a trickle coming through from what i understand .... no doubt the us/eu is soaking up most of them :D when i spoke to them all the incoming deliveries were already spoken for and I would just be in a queue. Am in no rush... as long as happens at some stage Al, I tried both numbers, including the one in your post, and all calls failed to connect. Have also sent emails to the service and info email addresses with no responses. Looks like they have blocked me for some reason or they don’t want the business. Disappointing.
betty boop Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, IanRM said: Al, I tried both numbers, including the one in your post, and all calls failed to connect. Have also sent emails to the service and info email addresses with no responses. Looks like they have blocked me for some reason or they don’t want the business. Disappointing. agree disappointing, and how very strange. suspect the other number tried was main one ? (03) 8542 1111. I wonder if they are all working from home or something but am sure i actually range them during when we had lockdown ! my emails back was from sound united. so do wonder if something changed there but you'd expect a business to have that transition sorted not leaving contacting customers in a vacuum ! I know someone else who booked their interest in around same time. only other thing i can think is go through your retailer bought from ? they should have a hot line to sound united i would expect it would be good to know too why no answer...thats not really acceptable in my books... 1
IanRM Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 Good idea! I will contact the retailer and ask them if they can help. 1
IanRM Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 Got through to Sound United by email to service@qualifi.com.au They have some telephone issues they are remedying. They are taking registrations of interest for the upgrade, but the kits are only planned to trickle in to Australia and the price quoted was $1199 including one way freight to return the processor to the customer. 1
jdh500 Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) Looking at the photo, am I correct in that only input 7 has 8k and the rest of the inputs are still 4k. I was hoping all inputs would be 8k compliant, why nobble it with only a single 8k input. This is not a big deal at the moment as I have neither an 8k source or display but it seems alot to pay for the 8k upgrade board for only a single 8k input ? JDH Edited July 2, 2021 by jdh500
betty boop Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, jdh500 said: Looking at the photo, am I correct in that only input 7 has 8k and the rest of the inputs are still 4k. I was hoping all inputs would be 8k compliant, why nobble it with only a single 8k input. This is not a big deal at the moment as I have neither an 8k source or display but it seems alot to pay for the 8k upgrade board for only a single 8k input ? hi JDH, as per the table I posted earlier in the thread, which had the table from flat panel hd that summarises well, https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1622106779 so yes one 8k input, but all inputs supporting hdmi 2.1 feature set. 8k is a still a pipe dream... so not a huge priority or most 4k 120 is also one input only 1
jdh500 Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, betty boop said: so yes one 8k input, but all inputs supporting hdmi 2.1 feature set. Yep, I’d read that before but was hoping I was mistaken, Just seems a strange choice to go to the effort of making up a completely new hdmi board, swapping it out etc and only putting 8k on one of them thats all? I guess a bit of a bummer if you need to connect two gaming machines or htpc at 4k 120hz. You kind of got a better deal or value going from the 8802 to 8802A, you atleast got all inputs upgraded from 1080p to 4k not just one. JDH Edited July 2, 2021 by jdh500
cwt Posted July 2, 2021 Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jdh500 said: Yep, I’d read that before but was hoping I was mistaken, Just seems a strange choice to go to the effort of making up a completely new hdmi board, swapping it out etc and only putting 8k on one of them thats all? I guess a bit of a bummer if you need to connect two gaming machines or htpc at 4k 120hz. These new chipsets are conditional on what different ce's may be employing JDH . Each has to have code written to match with the other circuitry of the particular brand ; some brands use panasonic chipsets others like Onkyo and Pioneer may use Invecas which has been developing for years ; these are very complicated to get right when dealing with such bandwidths needless to say . Something sorta similar happened with Emotiva when Dirac wrote code that didnt match with their new non TI dsp processing ; so they had to write their own code and even rewrite it -its taken forever -like years .. So marantz is not going to go with another brand anytime soon ; its panasonic that has to fix this niggly frame rate issue ; this following gives an idea of how long it takes ;and why the limit is 40 for everyone and not 48gbps which is the 2.1 spec Its interesting that Invecas is an offshoot of the famous Silicon Image that Denon etc used to use all the time .. Edited July 2, 2021 by cwt
jdh500 Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 I was told the ETA on the new Marantz AV-8805A is on or around the 6th August, I guess the board swap out program will probably commence around that date too. JDH
betty boop Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 8 hours ago, jdh500 said: I was told the ETA on the new Marantz AV-8805A is on or around the 6th August, I guess the board swap out program will probably commence around that date too. JDH both probably coming in same time.as been told after end of the month... for the kits to be fitted 1
jdh500 Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 Probably no real rush for you, just arrange it over the next few months at a time that suites you. I’m still annoyed that all hdmi inputs will not be full 8k compatible but I’d suspect this upgrade will still be relevant in 5 years time for the majority of situations anyway. JDH 1
jdh500 Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) Attached is a youtube video on a Marantz AV-8805A internals, teardown etc. still waiting on the hifi shop to say my AV-8805A is ready for pickup/delivery. JDH Edited August 4, 2021 by jdh500 1
betty boop Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 45 minutes ago, jdh500 said: still waiting on the hifi shop to say my AV-8805A is ready for pickup/delivery. I hope comes quick JD, I havent seen anyone overseas pick one up was yet ...so not sure in circulation. the A chipset is extremely scarce and in very limited availability worldwide it seems... for those of us awaiting the A board upgrade here in oz its something like November now it seems. not that am in any rush ... I do have some money down a xbox series X..... not that that is going to turn up anytime soon either given the worldwide shortage on that too... I do have a new telly on order as well... and that doesnt seem to be turning up anytime soon either ... common thread ...which is why can see in no rush hehe so indeed do hope you can get your A unit before A upgrade for me instead
jdh500 Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) Well, with Sydney covid-19 lockdowns no real rush, I would have to venture into a Sydney hotspot to pick it up, I can see I won’t see it before late August. I believe its currently with the Australian distributor soon to ship to the hifi store. May end up having it shipped to me rather than pickup in the end. JDH Edited August 4, 2021 by jdh500 1
IanRM Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 I got an email yesterday from Sound United (Qualifi) confirming my registration for the board. They said boards should arrive mid-November and confirmed the $1199 price. 1
betty boop Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, jdh500 said: Well, with Sydney covid-19 lockdowns no real rush, I would have to venture into a Sydney hotspot to pick it up, I can see I won’t see it before late August. I believe its currently with the Australian distributor soon to ship to the hifi store. May end up having it shipped to me rather than pickup in the end. JDH might as well get it shipped to you JD... no point sitting at the retailers... and the sydney covid situation i doubt going to lift any time soon. might as well sit this out and have this to enjoy at home
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