franin Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 4 hours ago, al said: you will find this comment from audio star on AVS, interesting in that case, "Yes to the n5 and n7 the nx9 has the super lens from z1 so a completely different range. The n5 is better even then 760es so really even and good but the nx9 looks the same everywhere I have only seen that on Barco projectors before and then we talk a lot more money. If I would explain with one word it would be analog it looks more analog across the picture like watching 70mm compare to 2k . More clearer smother and extremely sharp across the whole picture." Well from what I saw it looked impressive. Unfortunately I couldn't afford one but I wouldn't turn one down either.
betty boop Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Javs said: Why? They could have shipped them today, and I could give you an in depth clue of what the N7 looks like compared to a 9500 within 24 hours... This is merely delaying actual feedback from people who will deep dive these units other than outsiders who come and spend an hour with them and try to compare to units they have at home.. they appear to be doing a couple of things. across europe getting them into dealers and such so people can view and look over and compare in some detail, though all on beta firmware "not allowed to touch settings", they have also done a couple of trade shows IFA/CEDIA also on beta firmware dont touch the settings. on other hand they have customer viewing in japan at a couple of locations where have to pre book as a dealer, why dont you see if can arrange something similar ? we seem to be completely bereft of any such opportunities. either at dealers or shows (we have one in melbourne this week) or even at any arranged showings. otherwise we quite possibly might end up just like the oppo 203 was when released here. not one bit of local testing. I found buggy on switch on and completely bug ridden in first 10 min. this is even though they had all their us beta testing groups and what not. took months to sort out - I returned mine after the first month, got better things in life to be doing than beta testing for them. I would suspect all they are doing right now is beta testing and getting some dealer/end user validation. I suspect with every unit still on beta firmware its still undergoing finessing. that date pushed out only says they got a bit more work to do(whether firmware or otherwise. though suspect the customer viewings in japan at end of the month you'd hope they are close to done...
TP1 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 5 hours ago, al said: The n5 is better even then 760es so really even and good but the nx9 looks the same everywhere I have only seen that on Barco projectors before and then we talk a lot more money. Seriously Al? you can find crackpot comments everywhere on AVS forum from fanboys including how 760ES is better than JVC-Z1. Simply copying and pasting gossip might stir things up but does little to add any credibility to the discussion. But it does give another illustration how the Sony 760ES has got under the skin of hard core JVC fans, probably because JVC haven't really got an answer for it yet. Yes we can talk about lenses and 8K E-shift but the reality is most buyers would want laser if they actually got to see it demonstrated properly. According to the USA Sony distributor, they have only recently caught up with the backlog of 885/760ES orders that existed since its launch a year ago and its little wonder that the model has been retained as is. I guess its flattering for Sony that it has stirred up hardcore JVC fans so much. 1
Spizz Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Saw oztheater also post the same on AVS, however he is saying December. Maybe they are coming early but JVC Australia wants to try and somehow clear old stock?
Spizz Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Javs- As a dealer can't you call JVC and see what the latest is?
Davo1972 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Spizz said: Saw oztheater also post the same on AVS, however he is saying December. Maybe they are coming early but JVC Australia wants to try and somehow clear old stock? To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they end up landing here in late November or early December. I share everyone's frustration, but there could be a number or reasons for the delay. eg. Manufacturing delays, finalising firmware/hardware, demand in other territories, the recent Typhoon in Japan... I'm not saying I know, but there's nothing we can change about it 1
oztheatre Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Spizz said: Saw oztheater also post the same on AVS, however he is saying December. Maybe they are coming early but JVC Australia wants to try and somehow clear old stock? No not me, I dont post on AVS, someone else. 1
Javs Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, Spizz said: Javs- As a dealer can't you call JVC and see what the latest is? This is the official response from JVC... Hello Matthew As soon as Management release the pricing we will send it out to all the JVCKENWOOD dealers. 1 1
betty boop Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Tasso said: Seriously Al? you can find crackpot comments everywhere on AVS forum from fanboys including how 760ES is better than JVC-Z1. Simply copying and pasting gossip might stir things up but does little to add any credibility to the discussion. But it does give another illustration how the Sony 760ES has got under the skin of hard core JVC fans, probably because JVC haven't really got an answer for it yet. Yes we can talk about lenses and 8K E-shift but the reality is most buyers would want laser if they actually got to see it demonstrated properly. According to the USA Sony distributor, they have only recently caught up with the backlog of 885/760ES orders that existed since its launch a year ago and its little wonder that the model has been retained as is. I guess its flattering for Sony that it has stirred up hardcore JVC fans so much. Tasso you are welcome to post as is anyone. There is no need to be calling people crack pots and what not. I actualy people to post any experience and impressions people might have with new 2019 projectors. I am sure anyone can take them with appropriate levels of sodium chloride as they would anyone’s posts on the inter web including yours or mine.
betty boop Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, Javs said: This is the official response from JVC... Hello Matthew As soon as Management release the pricing we will send it out to all the JVCKENWOOD dealers. It’s kinda amazing isn’t it. Uk Europe us seem to be able to figure out a price but takes a while here. I wonder whet what is driving us to be such laggards this time around. People forget with the xx000 series we were one of first in the world unboxing a jvc ... quite posdibke we might still be ... just won’t find out price till last and goodness knows when their website will get updated
Spizz Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, oztheatre said: No not me, I dont post on AVS, someone else. Sorry I meant OzHDHT posting- Quote I got some info through today that we be seeing the new series here in Aus till closer or even into December as opposed to November as has been stated for elsewhere. Don't know if this affects anywhere else apart from us but we historically get new models on time if even a tiny bit early. 1
Spizz Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) https://tech4u.it/20709-jvc-d-ila-n5-n7-e-nx9-presentazione-italiana-e-prime-impressioni/ http://www.avmagazine.it/news/4K/nuovi-proiettori-jvc-4k-e-8k-in-arrivo_13723.html Edited October 12, 2018 by Spizz
betty boop Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Spizz said: https://tech4u.it/20709-jvc-d-ila-n5-n7-e-nx9-presentazione-italiana-e-prime-impressioni/ http://www.avmagazine.it/news/4K/nuovi-proiettori-jvc-4k-e-8k-in-arrivo_13723.html thanks spizz, translating below, https://translate.google.com.au/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avmagazine.it%2Fnews%2F4K%2Fnuovi-proiettori-jvc-4k-e-8k-in-arrivo_13723.html&edit-text=&act=url euro pricing there, JVC LX-UH1 : 2,799 euros JVC DLA-X7900 : 3.990 euros JVC DLA-N5 : 5,999 euros JVC DLA-N7 : 7,999 euros JVC DLA-NX9 : 17,999 euros JVC DLA-Z1 : 34.999 Euro and wow they get the JVC Italy HQ demo in Milan followed by dealer demo in bologna ! https://translate.google.com.au/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftech4u.it%2F20709-jvc-d-ila-n5-n7-e-nx9-presentazione-italiana-e-prime-impressioni%2F&edit-text=&act=url from above the below is interesting the contrast between the models (pardon the pun) "Turning to the N5, you immediately notice the lower brightness of the machine , while the detail of the new micro-panels D-ILA 4K from 0.69 "remains very high , despite a 65mm lens less valuable than the one supplied on the NX9 and the absence of the 8K e-Shift processing. On the micro detail you can see the differences, but I would have expected a greater "detachment". Compared to the NX9, the most obvious perceived difference is definitely the overall dynamic of the reproduced images (especially in HDR) and the colors, due to the lack of the color filter that allows the NX9 to cover 100% of the DCI-P3 gamut. A machine that is however very balanced, detailed, capable of excellent contrast and which has highlighted the same peculiarities of the older brother in terms of coupling signals, versatility (optical memories and calibration banks) and motion management." overall looks like they were quite impressed, but waiting for final version "In short, a very positive first approach and waiting for a thorough test as soon as JVC Kenwood Italy manages to get a car available (most likely the top of the NX9 range).Meanwhile, we invite all the fans to see with their own eyes the new JVC during the various demonstrations that will be held at the dealers in the coming weeks (for details you can consult our events page , where we will update dates and locations of events)." very jealous they have "various demonstrations being helped by dealers" does jvc au not care ? do local dealers not care ? do we not count as a market ? maybe our time will come ... then again maybe not !
betty boop Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 yep as per craig peer on avs... we are getting "hosed" for a change, looks like us deliveries are a LOT earlier this time around ? "You guys are getting hosed then. Latest we've heard in the US is RS3000's by the end of this month, the other models to follow mid November. Then again, there probably will be backorders for some time - and pre - orders get priority."
Javs Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 yep as per craig peer on avs... we are getting "hosed" for a change, looks like us deliveries are a LOT earlier this time around ? "You guys are getting hosed then. Latest we've heard in the US is RS3000's by the end of this month, the other models to follow mid November. Then again, there probably will be backorders for some time - and pre - orders get priority."I haven't heard of any such delay anyway... I will believe it when JVC themselves tell me. 1
betty boop Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Javs said: 21 minutes ago, al said: yep as per craig peer on avs... we are getting "hosed" for a change, looks like us deliveries are a LOT earlier this time around ? "You guys are getting hosed then. Latest we've heard in the US is RS3000's by the end of this month, the other models to follow mid November. Then again, there probably will be backorders for some time - and pre - orders get priority." I haven't heard of any such delay anyway... I will believe it when JVC themselves tell me. look forward to hearing on confirmation of when they actually get here.
betty boop Posted October 13, 2018 Author Posted October 13, 2018 Interesting post from ozhtdt, could it be we are finally ! Getting some demo units heading our ways ? Which is good news avs I hope appropriate deletes/ speacialists get them for appropriate demos particularly to us end users so we can have some idea first hand what things are about. Here’s hoping a n7 is part of the ‘demo units’ heading here Javs I hope you are putting your hand up for a look see “If that's still the case with US deliveries, I'd surmise excess demand between the US and Europe has done us no favors and de-prioritised our market this time around frustratingly I under there are actually some 'not for sale' demo units coming here shortly which would be an indicator that they will be production models.” 1
Javs Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, al said: Interesting post from ozhtdt, could it be we are finally ! Getting some demo units heading our ways ? Which is good news avs I hope appropriate deletes/ speacialists get them for appropriate demos particularly to us end users so we can have some idea first hand what things are about. Here’s hoping a n7 is part of the ‘demo units’ heading here Javs I hope you are putting your hand up for a look see “If that's still the case with US deliveries, I'd surmise excess demand between the US and Europe has done us no favors and de-prioritised our market this time around frustratingly I under there are actually some 'not for sale' demo units coming here shortly which would be an indicator that they will be production models.” They are already here, N5 and NX9, and have been tested over at a Sydney Post Production house against the Z1 and X9900. And no, JVC will never give me one. Seriously, I am happy to just wait the few weeks to have one in my actual room. 1
Spizz Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Javs said: They are already here, N5 and NX9, and have been tested over at a Sydney Post Production house against the Z1 and X9900. And no, JVC will never give me one. Seriously, I am happy to just wait the few weeks to have one in my actual room. Hopefully the wait is only a few weeks.
poppybob Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Why? They could have shipped them today, and I could give you an in depth clue of what the N7 looks like compared to a 9500 within 24 hours... This is merely delaying actual feedback from people who will deep dive these units other than outsiders who come and spend an hour with them and try to compare to units they have at home..Will definitely be waiting for your feedback. From what I’ve read since joining this forum, only a short time ago, I can see that will be valuable and honest reading. I have my reservations regarding the N7. If it’s not a smack in the face different from the 900, 950 or 9900 will probably save my pennies for another year and grab the top shelf model. ( not the z1)
TP1 Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Sony in Europe have released this as part of their information package for the new Sony models. Edited October 13, 2018 by Tasso 1
Javs Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Sony in Europe have released this as part of their information package for the new Sony models. That graphic is in almost every years brief.
Peppers Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 At this stage is there anything in the 2019 lineup likely to compete at the x7900 price point? From earlier posts the N5 will be around 50% more expensive and the 270es has a few shortfalls. Is the x7900 still the best choice in this ~$6k range?
poppybob Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 At this stage is there anything in the 2019 lineup likely to compete at the x7900 price point? From earlier posts the N5 will be around 50% more expensive and the 270es has a few shortfalls. Is the x7900 still the best choice in this ~$6k range? I’d probably spend an extra $800 to get the extra little bit of contrast from the 9900
T800 Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Yeah was set on the N5 but at the projected prices it’s way out of my league. Hard to decide on 5900 ($4k), 7900 ($6k) or 9900 ($6.8k). If I go the 7900 you better off paying a little extra for the 9900. Hopefully the 7900 gets a huge price drop like the US, but doubt JVC AU will
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