betty boop Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Perth.hifi said: Question. - The current TW9300, does this ruin up to 18gbs thru hdmi? Or am i best to wait for the 9400? - Friends recommend i go JVC, but unsure.. No 9300 doesn’t, it’s whet the 9400 fixes 9300 I’d take over the optoma option, saw them back to back at recent show 1
Perth.hifi Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 No 9300 doesn’t, it’s whet the 9400 fixes 9300 I’d take over the optoma option, saw them back to back at recent showOk, so I'm best to wait for the 9400. Any idea on release date? Optoma mmmm, reliability? Warranty? Support? So the tw9300 transfer rate, what is it? Will the 18gbs make a huge difference with 4k enhancement?
PerryV Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 9400 model due in April 2019 and is to be the same price as the 9300 model.
betty boop Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Perth.hifi said: Ok, so I'm best to wait for the 9400. Any idea on release date? Optoma mmmm, reliability? Warranty? Support? So the tw9300 transfer rate, what is it? Will the 18gbs make a huge difference with 4k enhancement? Not so much for uhd, but gaming, streaming off players apple 4k tv and such 4K 50/60 is handy only reason you’d go 9300 is lower run out price but really these here should be full bandwidth machines always should have been Hence the 9400. 1
Perth.hifi Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 9400 model due in April 2019 and is to be the same price as the 9300 model.Cool. Sounds like I'm waiting...
Perth.hifi Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 Not so much for uhd, but gaming, streaming off players apple 4k tv and such 4K 50/60 is handy [emoji4] only reason you’d go 9300 is lower run out price [emoji4] but really these here should be full bandwidth machines always should have been Hence the 9400.True, but the cheapest I've seen them if $3500, aint exactly run out price.... especially if it can't handle 18gbs....
PerryV Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 Reading through the posts sounds as though JVC has problems with their new native 4K models. It will be interesting to see how much of delay there will be for these models and whether they bring in more of the superseded 7900 models or whether they are prepared to lose sales to the likes of Sony and Epson. I am hoping they drop the price of the 7900 machine down to $4k in order to maintain brand sales otherwise they are going to lose market share.
oztheatre Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Perth.hifi said: 12 hours ago, betty boop said: Not so much for uhd, but gaming, streaming off players apple 4k tv and such 4K 50/60 is handy only reason you’d go 9300 is lower run out price but really these here should be full bandwidth machines always should have been Hence the 9400. True, but the cheapest I've seen them if $3500, aint exactly run out price.... especially if it can't handle 18gbs.... 3500 is run out pricing, the retail price is 4799. 27% off, at 3500 the retailer would make peanuts.
oztheatre Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, PerryV said: Reading through the posts sounds as though JVC has problems with their new native 4K models. It will be interesting to see how much of delay there will be for these models and whether they bring in more of the superseded 7900 models or whether they are prepared to lose sales to the likes of Sony and Epson. I am hoping they drop the price of the 7900 machine down to $4k in order to maintain brand sales otherwise they are going to lose market share. An RRP of 4K won't happen, the yanks did 4K for that model, I'd say 5999 will be the new rrp for that model. IF they get more stock coming here.
minireza Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 I'd be interested to see in light of all this, if JVC would make more X9900 projectors to fill in demand for time being. It's a massive revenue hit to not be in the mid to high end projector market when you account for the R&D that was sunk into the new projectors that won't hit market as yet. Do they make the "old" projectors to fill the gap at a greatly reduced price; or do they even do something special price wise for the new projectors once the NX5, 7 & 9 are ready for market. This is a very big hit to a company no matter which way you look at it. Imagine if they made the NX7 sub $10K hahah - one can only dream!
TerryO Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 Why on earth would JVC make more 9900's or sell 7900's for $4k? They will work through their issues with the new projectors and then release them when they are happy with the fix, which chances are will not take that long. The only possible business reason I can see why they wouldn't wait for the new models to be fixed would be if the fix is going to take twelve months or so to get sorted which is highly unlikely. regards Terry 3
PerryV Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 I would say it going to take JVC a while to fix this issue. Their whole process for managing the new native 4K projectors in terms of pricing, features and release dates has been terrible. They are going to have do something to restore brand loyalty. Worse case scenario would be several month delays in which case people will look at other brands.Even if they continue with the 7900 at a retail price of $5999 you should be able to get one closer to the $5k market as is currently the case with run out models. Anything below $5k price would certainly be attractive in terms of pricing as would then be competing against the epson 9400 model.
minireza Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, TerryO said: Why on earth would JVC make more 9900's or sell 7900's for $4k? They will work through their issues with the new projectors and then release them when they are happy with the fix, which chances are will not take that long. The only possible business reason I can see why they wouldn't wait for the new models to be fixed would be if the fix is going to take twelve months or so to get sorted which is highly unlikely. regards Terry Just hypothesising on my behalf; that is all. The press release gives no indication that this will be a quick thing to fix. And leaving a hole in the market this big is very much bad news. I don't know their manufacturing process, but lets assume they own the factories that make these PJ's and or assembles them. You now have a production line that is completely dormant for time being. Why wouldn't you at lease fire it back up and produce the X9900 and X7900 to at least compete in the market for time being? I don't think the idea is that far fetched.
betty boop Posted December 3, 2018 Author Posted December 3, 2018 Like terryO i can’t see why jvc would drop price further or make more. Remember they had only so many chips once gone it’s gone ... when hole ole in market you capitalise. They are a knock out at the price now and demand is outstripping supply. Be foolish to drop price in that environment. 1
minireza Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, betty boop said: Like terryO i can’t see why jvc would drop price further or make more. Remember they had only so many chips once gone it’s gone ... when hole ole in market you capitalise. They are a knock out at the price now and demand is outstripping supply. Be foolish to drop price in that environment. I agree that it's not about dropping price further than the special they just ran. I'm thinking, why not restart production on both and keep selling them at the discount to at least dissuade many people jumping ship to sony in the meantime! 1
betty boop Posted December 3, 2018 Author Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, minireza said: I agree that it's not about dropping price further than the special they just ran. I'm thinking, why not restart production on both and keep selling them at the discount to at least dissuade many people jumping ship to sony in the meantime! Only so many chips left according to jvc ...
minireza Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, betty boop said: Only so many chips left according to jvc ... Can always put in another order hahaha - i'm sure there's a lot more to it than that! 1
cwt Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 6 hours ago, TerryO said: Why on earth would JVC make more 9900's or sell 7900's for $4k? They will work through their issues with the new projectors and then release them when they are happy with the fix, which chances are will not take that long. The only possible business reason I can see why they wouldn't wait for the new models to be fixed would be if the fix is going to take twelve months or so to get sorted which is highly unlikely. Yes ; Its not the 1st time a company has been let down by an oem supplier ; I remember outlaw audio lost a pre pro once because their Chinese oem got a better deal with a larger firm . Its ''traced to a component sourced from a third party'' ; so depends on how quickly they can source a replacement ; it may just be a component was out of tolerance or bad quality control ; something simple like that . It only becomes serious when the oem are the only suppliers of the component... Jvc are already losing money with the fixing of the new line ; projectors are a small market compared to panels ; consequently JVC can absorb some short time pain since they are a large ce with many lines Retooling the production line back to old models would cost how much ? 2
TerryO Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) ... Edited December 3, 2018 by TerryO
betty boop Posted December 4, 2018 Author Posted December 4, 2018 some contention its feb-march at this stage for the release. cant be jan just a night mare month. so logically feb march at earliest. supposed to be an n9 at CES... not sure if the nx7 is to continue to remain in hiding I hope this revised release also forces a rethink of local pricing. as we seem to be out of step with us pricing. hasnt been the case in the past I don't think. so not sure what is driving this. am I correct on this or wrong.... new epson not here either. mean time sony have a field day :) they deserve to dropping the price of the 570ES to be more competitive ... any official press reviews coming forth on 2019 projectors from any of the brands ... or are we official in projector vacuum 1
wooferocau Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Never clocked up so many projector hours in such a short time... Put just over 40hrs on the NX9 since its been here.. If i didn't already have my Z1, i could certainly see the NX9 becoming a permanent resident in my theatre room.. 4
minireza Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, wooferocau said: Never clocked up so many projector hours in such a short time... Put just over 40hrs on the NX9 since its been here.. If i didn't already have my Z1, i could certainly see the NX9 becoming a permanent resident in my theatre room.. The ultimate tease hahaha
minireza Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 I bet all these new movies I just bought would look great on a 2019 Projector 3
betty boop Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 nice stuff ! can binge out once get it not sure if have bladerunner 2049 but that's excellent on the projector as is mad max interstellar the shallows dunkirk deadpool revenant others too but depends what like watching 3
Spizz Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 23 hours ago, wooferocau said: Never clocked up so many projector hours in such a short time... Put just over 40hrs on the NX9 since its been here.. If i didn't already have my Z1, i could certainly see the NX9 becoming a permanent resident in my theatre room.. I see you mention that the Z1 is still a better projector over the NX9. Also that the contrast on the Z1 is better. Is this down to the laser on the Z1 or other attributes? Is it once you go laser you can never go back?
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