djmt Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 The title is for Seinfeld fans, yeah I'm 66. Any way, I've seen many references to hearing problems on this site even to extent of selling off equipment because of them. I recently came across mention of an Australian company, Audeara, which is a medical equipment company. They have, through a Kickstarter campaign, developed a headphone that examines the listeners hearing and adjusts the headphone performance accordingly. I know this concept is in direct conflict with what many on this site would deem acceptable but it really struck me when reading the classified of the gentleman that had just given up. Reviews are all over the place concerning performance but it may be an option for some as well as myself as I recently learned my hearing falls off a cliff at 2k. I just couldn't imagine not listening anymore. 1
davewantsmoore Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Nice find! Quote I know this concept is in direct conflict with what many on this site would deem acceptable I find it extremely curious that anyone (let alone "many") would be against improving performance. The obvious assumption being that when they say "it improves performance" that the claim is accurate. Edited August 23, 2018 by davewantsmoore
djmt Posted August 23, 2018 Author Posted August 23, 2018 I think its the most accurate reproduction vs the best reproduction for the individuals own hearing. I shouldn't have spoken for others.
davewantsmoore Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, djmt said: I shouldn't have spoken for others I know what you mean though. Audiophiles seem to very often consider "less change" to be "more pure".... which ignores the potential that the change is an improvement in performance.
Wimbo Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 7 hours ago, djmt said: The title is for Seinfeld fans, yeah I'm 66. Any way, I've seen many references to hearing problems on this site even to extent of selling off equipment because of them. I recently came across mention of an Australian company, Audeara, which is a medical equipment company. They have, through a Kickstarter campaign, developed a headphone that examines the listeners hearing and adjusts the headphone performance accordingly. I know this concept is in direct conflict with what many on this site would deem acceptable but it really struck me when reading the classified of the gentleman that had just given up. Reviews are all over the place concerning performance but it may be an option for some as well as myself as I recently learned my hearing falls off a cliff at 2k. I just couldn't imagine not listening anymore. It would be great if they designed an implant or such like this. I'd be on the list. Just under 10K HZ now. I rekon damage caused by cycling in Sydney and riding Harleys.
BuzzzFuzzz Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 Hey Guys. I was informed by a friend of some new headphones that somehow measure the ear shape and ear canal, adjusting accordingly for the listeners ears. I know this doesn't directly relate to hearing impairment or damage, but highlighted the point that we all hear sound slightly differently, depending on ear shape and size. Maybe like fingerprints, we all have differences in hearing, which could account for the hot debates over systems, pressings, issues, re-issues and formats. Cheers, Ant. PS; I love Seinfeld. It would be the series I have watched over & over the most in my life. If you haven't watched Curb Your Enthusiasm, give it a go, and Veep is pretty good too.
ThirdDrawerDown Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 That would be the Nuraphone. Worth a search-for here on SNA. Cheers
Guest Posted August 23, 2018 Posted August 23, 2018 Nuraphone is not the only ones with this tech although they do have a Bose level of marketing going on right now so are widely publicised at the moment. Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser also now offer it: https://www.stereo.net.au/news/be-amazed-by-beyerdynamics-amiron-wireless-headphones I have a pair of Aventho and I love the sound with the MIY app engaged. It also shows you safe listening levels, how long you've been listening and how much longer you can listen safely each day. A great concept, especially for kids! 2
mrbuzzardstubble Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 The google play app also has a hearing test for each ear and adjusts playback on the test results.
dalethorn Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Firstly, I'd recommend strongly to consult with a doctor or doctor-equivalent audiologist before using any compensation other than a mild frequency adjustment. My hearing isn't as acute as it was 20 years ago, but fortunately it's still acceptable for hi-fi listening. As long as my headphone sounds the same more-or-less as natural sounds and music that I hear, I'm OK with that since that means the headphone is accurate. When it gets to the point that I feel a real loss of sound, I'll probably look into a hearing device that also works with large headphones.
magical Posted April 25, 2019 Posted April 25, 2019 Thr main thing is, do you still enjoy music? Most of the action happens below 5k, do don't worry to much
dalethorn Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 Looking again at post #1, hearing that takes a dive above 2 khz is not going to be restorable to anything approaching hi-fi music enjoyment. There is so much tonal info in harmonics that if you can't hear 9-10 khz anymore, the music loses significant realism. I doubt that any of the DSP sellers try to address serious losses starting above 2 khz - that's just too low. Medical or audiology doctors might help, but if you want them to do enough followup work to get digital hearing aids tuned more accurately after the initial sale, that can get expensive. I paid $2500 USD to get someone a digital aid with a followup tuning, but it wasn't enough. OTOH, if the medical/audiology folks can sell you a solution that you can self-tune yourself safely, maybe that would help. Generally speaking, the hi-fi industry can't sell you something whose correction is so large that it could cause more damage and defeat the purpose.
dalethorn Posted April 26, 2019 Posted April 26, 2019 On 23/08/2018 at 7:14 AM, BuzzzFuzzz said: Hey Guys. I was informed by a friend of some new headphones that somehow measure the ear shape and ear canal, adjusting accordingly for the listeners ears. I know this doesn't directly relate to hearing impairment or damage, but highlighted the point that we all hear sound slightly differently, depending on ear shape and size. Maybe like fingerprints, we all have differences in hearing, which could account for the hot debates over systems, pressings, issues, re-issues and formats. If we sit at a live music event we hear the same thing, and if we like what we hear, then if our gear reproduces that more or less accurately, we hear the same thing at home. So the fact that we hear differently only matters if 1) We don't like the sound of live music, or 2) Our gear doesn't reproduce it accurately. If it turns out that we both like the live music sound "as is", and we both have the same playback system yet one of us isn't happy with it, then it's not so much that we hear differently, but our systems aren't working the same for us even when the systems are identical. In headphones, it's often attributed to HRTF etc., but there are other possible factors.
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