Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Quark said: What resolution is the Playstation - HD or 4K? Have you tried the cable test option on the ATV? PS4 is set to Auto (but comes through as 4K in the video settings) I didn’t try the ATV in the front aux port, just the PS4 and an Nvidia Shield. Both worked in the front but neither worked in the back, even in ports I’d not used before.
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hansel said: PS4 is set to Auto (but comes through as 4K in the video settings) I didn’t try the ATV in the front aux port, just the PS4 and an Nvidia Shield. Both worked in the front but neither worked in the back, even in ports I’d not used before. as i mentioned before and still no idea what your marantz is, but some marantz processors/avrs are not full hdmi 2.0 hdcp 2.2 on the front ports.... only the rear ports are why front ports will work rear port wont if rest of signal path not upto hdcp 2.2 even if your signal path is not upto snuff any gear not cutting it would drop output to what it can handle... if its not doing that ... in my experience points straight to cable..... eg apple tv 4k will just drop back to what system will handle. you can cable test it if you like ... but it will still give you a signal... I would simplify your setup. from what have now with the hd base to just simple cable.... as i suspect its the hdbase causing the issue. ps id leave nvidia shield out the mix for now its notorious for issues. that said all devices using atv4k sony ps4 pro are all finicky as they are expecting hdcp 2.2 though should down res if not met with that, 1
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, betty boop said: as i mentioned before and still no idea what your marantz is, but some marantz processors/avrs are not full hdmi 2.0 hdcp 2.2 on the front ports.... only the rear ports are why front ports will work rear port wont if rest of signal path not upto hdcp 2.2 even if your signal path is not upto snuff any gear not cutting it would drop output to what it can handle... if its not doing that ... in my experience points straight to cable..... eg apple tv 4k will just drop back to what system will handle. you can cable test it if you like ... but it will still give you a signal... I would simplify your setup. from what have now with the hd base to just simple cable.... as i suspect its the hdbase causing the issue. ps id leave nvidia shield out the mix for now its notorious for issues. that said all devices using atv4k sony ps4 pro are all finicky as they are expecting hdcp 2.2 though should down res if not met with that, Riiight, gotcha. I’ll do some googling on that hdbaset box as well but surely it’s hdcp 2.2. We shall see.
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Yep you got it I reckon. I changed the Marantz option from 4K Enhanced (basically hdcp2.2) to standard (limited to 4.2.0 8 bit) and everything “works” now. ****. I don’t mind dropping the HDBaseT box, but unfortunately it’s all run through the wall and I don’t think there’s a lead rope/cable thing to pull new stuff. There might be, but I’m not sure Regardless I’ll have to get someone in. In the meantime I guess I’m buying one of those office works cables and having a fugly cable run for a bit! 1
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Hansel said: Yep you got it I reckon. I changed the Marantz option from 4K Enhanced (basically hdcp2.2) to standard (limited to 4.2.0 8 bit) and everything “works” now. ****. I don’t mind dropping the HDBaseT box, but unfortunately it’s all run through the wall and I don’t think there’s a lead rope/cable thing to pull new stuff. There might be, but I’m not sure Regardless I’ll have to get someone in. In the meantime I guess I’m buying one of those office works cables and having a fugly cable run for a bit! its ALWAYS worth running cables just direct for a while in anycass to make sure all works before plumbing through a wall. also running stuff through walls are what most sparkies do day in day out for a living. so if been done once before it wont be impossible to do again. I remember once even using an old cable as the pull through... when old one was going to be chucked out in any case
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, betty boop said: its ALWAYS worth running cables just direct for a while in anycass to make sure all works before plumbing through a wall. also running stuff through walls are what most sparkies do day in day out for a living. so if been done once before it wont be impossible to do again. I remember once even using an old cable as the pull through... when old one was going to be chucked out in any case Haha yep it’ll be fine, I know a guy too (he did all my ethernet) so that’s ok. Just inconvenient. 1
cindernat Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Would it be worth getting a fiber cable? Can’t remember how long the run was.
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, cindernat said: Would it be worth getting a fiber cable? Can’t remember how long the run was. 6m fibre is unnecessary cost at only 6m ideally I'd recommend the mono price premium certified... only $49 am using one of those as 2nd cable to feed hdmi from oppo in 2ch to av side. beautifully made cable, but not quite 10m and takes a little while to come from the us if amazon is even shipping from us ! less price than the office works even with the amazon prime free shipping. the office works 10m does work and can just pop into a store and grab so hence suggested and quite affordable at $59. they are also no questions asked on returns if not doing your thing even if change mind or anything and want something else they really dont mind if returning as new with receipt.
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, cindernat said: Would it be worth getting a fiber cable? Can’t remember how long the run was. I’ll definitely look into it. What’s the perk there, future proofing (will they be hdmi 2.1 compliant etc EDIT: Never mind And yep, this is the damn thing I have: https://www.blustream.co.uk/hex70b-kit 4K up to 4.2.0, AND hdmi 1.4 by the look of it. I clearly didn’t look into that well enough at the time. Edited April 23, 2020 by Hansel
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hansel said: And yep, this is the damn thing I have: https://www.blustream.co.uk/hex70b-kit 4K up to 4.2.0, AND hdmi 1.4 by the look of it. I clearly didn’t look into that well enough at the time. makes sense
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, betty boop said: makes sense Ok so back to my alignment issue. The peerless manual shows an Allen nut to loosen that allows the thing to spin 360 degrees as far as I can tell. But looking at my mount I’m not sure I can see that, unless it’s the thing I’ve highlighted?
cindernat Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hansel said: I’ll definitely look into it. What’s the perk there, future proofing (will they be hdmi 2.1 compliant etc EDIT: Never mind Nah purely distance related ...
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hansel said: Ok so back to my alignment issue. The peerless manual shows an Allen nut to loosen that allows the thing to spin 360 degrees as far as I can tell. But looking at my mount I’m not sure I can see that, unless it’s the thing I’ve highlighted? that screw is purely a friction tighten if using a threaded rod - pole mount. which you are not. idea with the threaded rod if you were using ... is you loosen the screw turn the whole projector on the threaded rod till have it positioned how you want then lock it up. in your case screwed to ceiling. so the silver nut you see in your own photo .... only silver thing in your own photo. so hopefully dont miss it ... would need to use a spanner and loosen that just a very little. not too much as your whole projector will come off the ceiling. and do same with the nut other side...again i am talking the very little bit necessary to move the projector... and do this gently till moved and then lock back up again with spanner.
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, cindernat said: Nah purely distance related ... Out of interest, what’s the cutoff generally where a fibre cable would be needed?
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hansel said: Oh god, that sounds stressful its the instructions just to right of where you were looking, page 8 of the manual.... the right is a ceiling mount. the left is a pole mount. you were looking at the pole mount. the right hand needs a spanner for the bolts holding to the ceiling each side....
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Hansel said: Out of interest, what’s the cutoff generally where a fibre cable would be needed? post 10 m we have premium certified cables only go upto 10m and including likes of the comsol (non certified) that work perfectly fine upto 10m. post 10m is getting hairy for solid copper and id use fibre.
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, betty boop said: post 10 m we have premium certified cables only go upto 10m and including likes of the comsol (non certified) that work perfectly fine upto 10m. post 10m is getting hairy for solid copper and id use fibre. Yep ok thanks. Just wondering if it’s really 6m I need if I’m going through the wall, as it’ll be a bit of an indirect route. I’ll have to get out the tape measure. I wonder if I could use the ethernet cable from the hdbaset as a runner to tie the HDMI cable to and pull through the wall...
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hansel said: Yep ok thanks. Just wondering if it’s really 6m I need if I’m going through the wall, as it’ll be a bit of an indirect route. I’ll have to get out the tape measure. I wonder if I could use the ethernet cable from the hdbaset as a runner to tie the HDMI cable to and pull through the wall... All good, it’s around 5m. I might pick up that officeworks cable tomorrow and see if I can’t tie it to the ethernet and pull it though. Bit bulkier obviously so might get stuck.
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Quark said: To my eye, that pattern means you need to turn the projector to the left (then use horizontal lens shift to get the image back on the screen) and lift the right side of the projector. Then you should have a nice rectangular image. Way better, thanks for that! Not perfect obviously but it’ll do for tonight 2
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Guys thanks so much for the help today, really appreciate it, you’re all legends. 2
betty boop Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Hansel said: Guys thanks so much for the help today, really appreciate it, you’re all legends. glad got to where you did... I got bit concerned when the mount didnt want to let go of the old epson
Hansel Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) Morning all, what would be the recommended setting for Aspect in the Installation menu? Looking at the little diagram in the manual, seems Auto would be the way to go but just want to check. I guess Auto or Native will pretty much have the same effect as I doubt I'll be watching too much stuff under 1080, but you never know I suppose! Edited April 23, 2020 by Hansel
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