Technics Turntables Owners Thread

[Digital Man]

Hi, Maybe, there are some other Linear Tracking Turntables, out there, that I am, not aware of, does anyone here, know of any? Thanks.

[michaelw]

If I am not mistaken the Sony PS F9 had a built in phono stage: http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-PS-F9.html. Rare machines though!

 

That is more Sound Burger than SL10.

 

[michaelw]

Hi, Maybe, there are some other Linear Tracking Turntables, out there, that I am, not aware of, does anyone here, know of any? Thanks.

 

At one time or another all the major manufacturers had linear trackers in their range.

 

Some of the better known ones being the Technics range, Pioneer PL-1000, Yamaha PX series, B+O, Harman Kardon

 

Then there was the exotica like Goldmund, Pierre Lurne, Clearaudio, Rockport, Mapleknoll et al

[mkaramazov]

Hi, Maybe, there are some other Linear Tracking Turntables, out there, that I am, not aware of, does anyone here, know of any? Thanks.

 

Yes many linear tracks to try. If you need a compact design, Technics had a few including the SL15, SL7 and SL5 - I had a couple of SL7s and they were also excellent. The full size Technics linear tracks - SL DL1 and SL QL1 are also great decks. 

 

As @@michaelw says, there were a number made by mainstream manufacturers that you can pick up second hand if you look - all have their strengths and compromises. I still have a Harman Kardon ST7, which out-performed my Technics SL7s but is way more fiddly. I am currently working on a Yamaha PX3 which is nearly back to its full glory.

 

That is more Sound Burger than SL10.

 

 

In a sense, yes. A quartz locked, direct drive linear tracking Sound Burger with integrated motorised disc clamping :-).

 

Still dream of being able to bring one of these to a picnic. 

[Digital Man]

Hi, Thanks guys, but not what I was asking for, I know about other Linear Tracking Turntables, what I wish to know, which ones come with a built in Phono stade, like the Technica SL10 ? That way, I can plug it directly in, to a valve headphone amp. Thanks

[mloutfie]

if you're building your own amp just make a phono stage in it. Compared to pure tube amp a simple phono stage is piss easy. I've done both and a simple phono circuit took an hour to do compared to 2 nights wiring my bottlehead crack. 

[wadiman]

LT - to be clear, again, you cannot plug a technics sl10 straight into an amplifier that does not have a phono stage. For the record (excuse the pun) I have one.

[metal beat]

Great to see music lovers around the world getting use out of their GAE's.  This is why I hate limited editions - scum up sellers.

 

only US $ 6500

 

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-technics-sl-1200gae-limited-edition-50th-anniversary-2016-08-28-analog-98406-tacoma-wa

 

 

or US $6990

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Technics-SL-1200GAE-Turntable-Japan-limited-300-units-1200-units-world-limited-/291856291501?hash=item43f3fd96ad:g:bbYAAOSwFc5Xv7dG

 

cheap  US $ 4999

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NIB-Technics-SL-1200GAE-1200-Limited-All-of-the-World-From-Japan-Japanese-model-/191958722427?hash=item2cb1a1a77b:g:A0oAAOSwvzRXxtes

 

US $ 6000

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Technics-SL-1200GAE-Turntable-/252516705934?hash=item3acb2b268e:g:21oAAOSwARZXkR1h

 

 

[Reverend Johnny Heathen]

Scum they are. And yet we encourage this behaviour in our social model?

[SL1200]

On 7/12/2016 at 7:51 PM, Metamatic said:

The arm on the GAE has been jettisoned quickly

Nice, but I would prefer the SME M2-9.  

[michaelw]

Why M2 over IV ???

[SL1200]

I prefer the M2-9 first because of the looks.  Second, I consider it to be better match with an original Technics SL1200 series - and given the design of the new GAE that might still be the case. Third is price.

[N@qOyQ@tSi]

Looks like the SL1200g is now available in the UK and Europe and wanky Panasonic show us Aussies no love

What the hell happened to the Japan-Australia trade agreement reported last year.

 

http://www.whathifi.com/news/technics-sl-1200g-turntable-goes-sale-in-uk-and-europe

[maxspl]

£3000 UK pounds now....

[EV Cali]

So $4808  Au 

More like $5000 plus if it get's here.

A lot of money if you then intend to spend another $2000 on a different arm.

 

 

You can get an excellent condition ,original SL1200  for around $900

Will be interesting to see how this affect the price of an original.  

Edited October 27, 2016 by EV Cali

[maxspl]

I'm guessing around $6k rrp here ...hopefully no more than that.

[metal beat]

Technics wastes no time in updating turntable, unveils Grand Class SL-1200GR at CES

 

The SL-1200GR uses a number of parts that were newly developed, like a coreless direct-drive motor, though the company doesn’t say how it differs from the direct-drive motor used in the previous model. Direct-drive turntables have numerous advantages over belt-driven models, namely the improved signal to noise ratio, meaning you’ll hear more music and less hum.

This turntable uses a die-cast aluminum platter, complete with ribs to improve the rigidity. This platter is heavier than that used on many previous models, which again helps to reduce vibration. Cutting down on vibration is important for a turntable, but it isn’t the only crucial characteristic. The SL-1200GR also uses metal shielding inside the case helping cut down on external noise.

 

 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/techics-grand-class-sl-1200gr-turntable-ces-2017/#/2

 

 

[maxspl]

This new 1200gr is designed as a more affordable version.

 

It is a step down in performance and price from the current 1200g and limited edition 1200gae. 

 

They call it the standard version of table , the G and GAE are the reference class. 

 

 

http://www.whathifi.com/news/technics-unveils-new-sl-1200gr-turntable-stereo-amp-and-speakers

[metal beat]

That makes a bit more sense.  That will teach me to read a bloody home theatre report 

Edited January 5, 2017 by Metamatic

[t_mike]

Happy birthday to this thread, it's 1 year old. 

[eltech]

On ?5?/?01?/?2017 at 8:52 PM, MarkT said:

It is a step down in performance

wow and flutter measurements are the same. The weight of the GR is lighter. Its hard to say performance is a step down when nobody has reviewed it in an AB comparison. If placed on a well isolated shelf who's to say at this stage if performance is lower? Perhaps its just the weight of the plinth that's different? Surely it's still a great turntable?

I recon it will be good. Perhaps they don't balance the platter on this one? Nobody knows yet. Do they?

[maxspl]

Some differences I noticed are that the reference models have a 3 layer platter , brass , rubber and aluminium. 

 

They also have a gimbal bearing Magnesium tonearm.

 

The standard deck has an aluminium tonearm and aluminium platter.

 

The Standard 1200gr also uses a variation of the  coreless direct drive motor that is used on the pricier 1200gae and 1200g models .

 

Seems reasonable to surmise that these cost cutting measures  to the platter , motor and tonearm will result in a step down in performance.

 

I'm not doubting that it will still be a great turntable .

Edited January 6, 2017 by MarkT

[Hergest]

Fremer has more details on his site.

 

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/technics-introduces-appx-2-priced-sl-1200-gr-turntable#LIyAdv92sfPkffiS.97

[beeclam]

looks good.

 

still no Australian distribution though 

[Jebediah]

Hi all, looking for some advice please. I recently came in to the possession of a SL-1200 MK2 which I stumbled across in a pawn shop. The table had a couple of small issues eg no power switch and no headshell/cartridge. After some haggling, I managed to snag it for $180 which I consider very good value! So, of it got sent to my local hi fi shop to have it serviced and new parts fitted my their tech. I did however ask to leave the headshell and cart for me to mull over. And, well, here I am...:)

 

Researching this thread and various other sites have left me a little confused with which path to take cart wise. I have an Ortofon 2M Bronze currently fitted to my Project table, and I would be more than happy to swap said cart over to the Technics. However, other threads I have read suggest the 2M series of carts don't track very well with the Technics arm, where others have for instance mounted a 2M blue to good measure and been happy with the results. 

 

The Denon MC carts eg DL 103, 110 etc seem to rate well, but if I can get away with using the Bronze to good effect it will invariably save me some coin. So I guess my question is to ask if anyone has used a 2M Bronze with the SL 1200MK2 and been happy with how it performs, or have you experienced the tracking issues and poor SQ some others have mentioned?

 

Cheers in advance