curiousgeorgenz Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Just like to get opinions on HDMI cables. What cable are you using? How much did the cable cost? Do they make diffence? Should I be thinking Monster HDMI 400? Audioquest HDMI-1? Belkin PureAV Silver series?
gfkBill Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 What length would be the first question? The longer you want it, the more important quality will become.
curiousgeorgenz Posted May 17, 2007 Author Posted May 17, 2007 sorry, should have been more specific. short runs from AVR to plasma, 2 metres.
Spearmint Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Over the Tasman, we are getting excellent results using Kordz cables.
Mevunky Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Have had good luck with QED and Nordost at 2m both price vs performance.
gfkBill Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I'm using a 10m Pudney which is doing great. Heard a few other complimentary comments, for a 2m one you should be fine with any of the "good" brands, that's not a big ask for the specs, especially if you're only sending SD.
LHH Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Mevunky wrote: Have had good luck with QED and Nordost at 2m both price vs performance. I find the Nordost a little "overcontrasty" myself. Haven't had much of a play with the QED, seemed pretty good though. The WireWorld Starlight is very good and I assume the Silver Starlight is even better, but I haven't tried it.
Michael Jones Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Are there differences between HDMI cables? Anyone found any differences in performance?
LHH Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 AudioEnz wrote: Are there differences between HDMI cables? Anyone found any differences in performance? Yes, most certainly there are. Head down to your local dealer and get them to do some cable switching for you.
Roath Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Not quite what was asked but I just installed a 12 metre hdmi cable and although I have nothing to compare it to, it seems to be working perfectly.:cool: Rapallo HDMI Cable
Guest Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 AudioEnz wrote: Are there differences between HDMI cables? Anyone found any differences in performance? Yes, unfortunately. And like audio cables, it's not always the high profile brand names that perform best. A 1.8m version of the one linked above, bundled with my cheepie DVDP, is just as good as any big name cable I've tried.
dr krankenstine Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I use nordost myself I have had no problems with HDCP but there is not a lot of differance in real terms unless you get a cheap one from a bloke in a pub thats fake then there is loads HDCP will take care of that for you. however there is a differance but its slight
Mevunky Posted May 19, 2007 Posted May 19, 2007 I vote nordost based on good performance vs price being the key. Another notible 1.3 approved cable is the Key Digital stuff....the owner of the company is on the HDMI creation panel IIRC so cant really go wrong. IIRC there are only 5 cable manufacs that are actually 1.3 approved?
silvercj Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Kimber HDMI, 10 mtrs worth, cost me about $550.00 2 years ago. Not sure of the price or the performance as it has never been used...... Still havent jumped into the flat panel/projector market yet....
LHH Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 silvercj wrote: Kimber HDMI, 10 mtrs worth, cost me about $550.00 2 years ago. Not sure of the price or the performance as it has never been used...... Still havent jumped into the flat panel/projector market yet.... Good work, yet another brave soul spurning the evils of home theatre in favour of stereo. Blessings upon you.
gooki Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 Using the one bundled with my DVD player (1.8 meter) on my HDDVD player. As for the differences if you don't have any digital dropout (noticeable as white static/pixels) then upgrading your HDMI cable will not effect the quality you are seeing.
LHH Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 gooki wrote: As for the differences if you don't have any digital dropout (noticeable as white static/pixels) then upgrading your HDMI cable will not effect the quality you are seeing. Yes it will. I have used an array of HDMI cables from many brands, and every cable produces a different result. The more expensive cables were not necessarily better, although they tended to be. For the benefit of those who lack the "faith" in cables, perhaps I should say that subjectively speaking, different HDMI cables appear to produce different results (to me). An example: Watching Desperado (Superbit DVD) on a Fujitsu P42HHA (50AS?) plasma using Pioneer DV989(?) DVD player: Acoustic Research HDMI: Picture has natural (as opposed to cartoonish) colour, but is slightly soft and fuzzy. Nordost: Very bright with pure whites, but a little "overcontrasty" and pixelated (my least liked cable). WireWorld Ultraviolet: A lot like the Acoustic Research but with less fuzz, blacks still not perfect. QED: Sitting between the WireWorld Ultraviolet and the Nordost. This cable has more natural colour than the Nordost and better black than the WireWorld, but still has problems with pixelation (but not as badly as the Nordost). WireWorld Starlight: Clearly the best cable in the group (and also the most expensive), the three-dimensionality of the image is substantially better than any of the other cables. Best blacks although the white is still not as pure as with the Nordost. Natural colour and very little noise. So in my personal order of preference: 1. WireWorld Starlight 2. QED (can't remember the model sorry but it's about $300) 3. WireWorld Ultraviolet 4. Acoustic Research (Pro Series from memory) 5. Nordost (Wirewizard) Of course I could just be imagining things (very very lucidly). My 36 1/3 cents.
gooki Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 I don't mean to be rude - everyone is entitled to their opinion, but can you think of any technical reason that the different hdmi cables are able to alter the colour and clarity in the way you describe?
Raston1553552680 Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 Uhmm....please exscuse me but what is an HDMI cable? I'm looking at purchasing either a power conditioner, surge board, or replacing my standard "Jug" chords.....problem is, given the relative variables of individual power supply tohouses, where does one start. Personally I believe the power supply in my house is acceptable, so maybe a Belkin PF40 is out the window. What I really think I need is to ditch the jug chords in favour of some upmarket ones. Problem is which ones and where do I acquire them? For an SM6 and 200P (new).
curiousgeorgenz Posted May 22, 2007 Author Posted May 22, 2007 HDMI is for connection between DVD player and/or AVR to plasma or projector. Carries digital video and audio signal.
LHH Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 [EDIT]: Ah, beat me to it Raston wrote: Uhmm....please exscuse me but what is an HDMI cable? I'm looking at purchasing either a power conditioner, surge board, or replacing my standard "Jug" chords.....problem is, given the relative variables of individual power supply tohouses, where does one start. Personally I believe the power supply in my house is acceptable, so maybe a Belkin PF40 is out the window. What I really think I need is to ditch the jug chords in favour of some upmarket ones. Problem is which ones and where do I acquire them? For an SM6 and 200P (new). Hey there, An HDMI cable is a "High Definition Multimedia Interface" cable. It is effectively a digital cable that caries both picture and sound (although I personally would only use it for picture). It's not going to be much help with your power issues. The Nordost power cables are good IMO, but if you want a more substantial answer, do a forum search, there have been quite a few threads about power lately.
silvercj Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 LHH wrote: Good work, yet another brave soul spurning the evils of home theatre in favour of stereo. Blessings upon you. Thanks LHH for the vote of confidence. I will still buy a "big screen" of some sort but will stay with two channel sound. I have two ears so two speakers seems to fit nicely;) When the big man upstairs gives me 7.1 ears then I might "upgrade"....
LHH Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 gooki wrote: I don't mean to be rude - everyone is entitled to their opinion, but can you think of any technical reason that the different hdmi cables are able to alter the colour and clarity in the way you describe? Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion, sorry if my reply seemed a little sharp. I'm not an engineer so I can't give you any technical reasons for what I see. That doesn't bother me much to be honest. Often people will attribute the changes they see to the wrong cause (Thor threw his hammer, rather than, there was an atmospheric electrical discharge etc.). However it is very rare for people invent changes that don't exist, although it does happen (particularly in group situations where there is a charismatic leader seeking to convince people). Many people still deny that there are any differences between analogue cables or digital cables (for technical reasons). However almost everyone who actually listens to gear (including those who aren't audiophools and know nothing about what they are listening to) will notice changes in sound that coincide with changes in cables. MY Opinion Only
silvercj Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 LHH wrote: However almost everyone who actually listens to gear (including those who aren't audiophools and know nothing about what they are listening to) will notice changes in sound that coincide with changes in cables. MY Opinion Only Sorry LHH, I am going to have to correct you on one point - "MY Opinion Only"... No its not its mine as well and I suspect I'm also not alone.....
Swanny1553552695 Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 silvercj wrote: When the big man upstairs gives me 7.1 ears then I might "upgrade".... You don't need ears for the .1 What we need is some kind of diagnotic info from our devices when using these cables (infomation on errors/dropped packets etc). Put me in the "But isn't it digital?" camp.
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