Odyssey Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, BlueOceanBoy said: My feeling - it's the power delivery on balanced output. Senns scale well with a bit of juice. This. Agree fully.
bruc3 Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, BlueOceanBoy said: Get @Bengineer to make a high quality one at a value price. (Disclosure - I have no financial interest in @BengineerMediocreEngineeringInc) Thanks Neil, I have spoken to Ben previously about some cables and aware he has talents in making quality cables.
bruc3 Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Odyssey said: That does not mean balance amp are better than SE amps. 100%, there are obviously good/bad balanced amps and SE amps, but like you said if you have a balanced amp then that is what you should use as generally the manufacturer would put most of the cost and effort into the balanced circuitry and the SE connection likely just for convenience or an after thought.
Bengineer Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, BlueOceanBoy said: My feeling - it's the power delivery on balanced output. Senns scale well with a bit of juice. Get @Bengineer to make a high quality one at a value price. (Disclosure - I have no financial interest in @BengineerMediocreEngineeringInc) Literally in my name Neil. I'm called MediocreBegineering.
Bengineer Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 May I also add I have given no illusions or suggestions as to quality of my work Some folk have their cables, and so far, have been nice to me as to not hurt my feelings haha. 1
Odyssey Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 I would have bought your cables but you do not have the 4k pure silver, woven, transparent sleeve, flexible cables. So I ordered a Forza Noir Hybrid HPC instead because it's silver/copper mix and fabric sleeved and very flexible.
Ehrmantraut Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 As you know Ben - I'm not nice! Looking forward to my inaugural balanced cable! Many amp manufacturers prefer the topology of SE designs like Nelson Pass. Particularly, as many touted balanced designs (especially at the lower price bracket) go through single ended channels in the circuitry and then output as "balanced". Mainly, XLR outputs allow around X2 the current delivery. 2
deafenears Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Bengineer said: Literally in my name Neil. I'm called MediocreBegineering. Quick, snap up the domain MediocreEngineering.com.au (and/or MediocreBengineering.com.au) and get your ABN! 1
Bengineer Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 Haha. No dice! An hour making cables yeilds a profit margin much less of that of consulting engineering :P. I'd feel guilty of not just working harder at my actual job if I started getting a hundred cable orders to fulfil. I should snap up Bengineering though, never know. Structures and buildings come and go but people will always blow money on hifi.
Odyssey Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) I can't figure out what is Bengineer initially. I thought it might be Beginner? Edited January 1, 2021 by Odyssey sentence
Bengineer Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 Yeah, have heard that few time. Maybe I'll capitalise it. BENgineer 1
deafenears Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bengineer said: Yeah, have heard that few time. Maybe I'll capitalise it. BENgineer Ben, who is a Beginner Engineer Or Ben who likes ginger beer...
deafenears Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 ... or Ben who likes gin and beer (but not mixed together, I hope)...
Bengineer Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 I've thought about it, and I think it's best if we pick on someone else know
xtiva2000 Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Thought had my setup was complete until trolling on SNA classified, just got first ever anything tubby amp in my setup.. Schiit Mjolnir 2 ... so my expectation of wider/deeper sound stage from tube amp was only half realized.. wide but rather shallow soundstage... like the warmth of the amp though... Edited January 5, 2021 by xtiva2000 1
Odyssey Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 Nice gear @xtiva2000 I have not heard Mjolnir2 before but my other tube amps are wide and deep, such as La Figaro 339 and Studio Six and Oblivion. WA22 is ok but not wide or deep as the others.
Bengineer Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 Mjolnir is hybrid. Very very much hybrid. So won't have that full tube benefit. More a SS with a touch of tube flavour.
barbz127 Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 This is me for the moment - sounds great and easy to listen too. Sotm SMS200 -> Audio GD R27 -> ZMF Atticus/ ZMF Verite Closed / DT880 600ohm Balanced. 1
xtiva2000 Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bengineer said: Mjolnir is hybrid. Very very much hybrid. So won't have that full tube benefit. More a SS with a touch of tube flavour. Hey Ben, yeah it looks like it may be had too much of expectation on the amp... Thanks
xtiva2000 Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Odyssey said: Nice gear @xtiva2000 I have not heard Mjolnir2 before but my other tube amps are wide and deep, such as La Figaro 339 and Studio Six and Oblivion. WA22 is ok but not wide or deep as the others. This is why didn't want to even start the journey with tube... thanks for the information.. never heard those but will certainly have a look at them...
Bengineer Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, xtiva2000 said: Hey Ben, yeah it looks like it may be had too much of expectation on the amp... Thanks The MJ2 is known as the king of slam. But any hybrid will be a bit of both worlds. It's a good amp. A full tube setup will generally give that warmth and soundstage benefits, and that upper register magic. Trade off is generally a looser low end. SS generally punchy and tight. Worth having one of each! Or if you're @Odyssey or @BlueOceanBoy, two to three of each on a weekly rotation.
bruc3 Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, barbz127 said: Sotm SMS200 -> Audio GD R27 -> ZMF Atticus/ ZMF Verite Closed / DT880 600ohm Balanced. Looks like all those headphones you have are high impedance > 300ohms, maybe look into getting a OTL tube amp which generally pairs well with high impedance headphones. The biggest difference for me going from my solid state to my OTL amp is definite wider/deeper soundstage and smoother sound.
xtiva2000 Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 51 minutes ago, Bengineer said: A full tube setup will generally give that warmth and soundstage benefits, and that upper register magic. Trade off is generally a looser low end. SS generally punchy and tight. Worth having one of each! Or if you're @Odyssey or @BlueOceanBoy, two to three of each on a weekly rotation. I can see what you mean by looser low end even on MJ2.. not as tight as my SS amp.. for highs loving it... hmm might need to troll classified for good full tube amp Oh lol 2 to 3 each
Bengineer Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Yeah. There isn't a best of both worlds. But as you move up the tube chain they certainly do get better. Diminishing returns though obviously, better off having variety than a 1% increase in performance. Once I settle on a headphone or two I'll build or buy a tube amp. Have out it off as not sure what impedance cans I'll run with it. If it's high, it's OTL baby
xtiva2000 Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Think my headphone is a keeper, HD800 will stay .. haven't found any that can replace it yet... including much more expensive Planar ones for my taste.. BTW people keep mentioning OTL but not able to find any OTL haedamp seller in AU? La Figaro 339, Odyssey mentioned, looks beautiful pity not balanced......
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