Innuos Owners and Discussions Thread

[eostre23]

When will the new Innuos products be available in Australia?

https://www.stereonet.com/au/news/innuos-premieres-zen-ng-zenith-ng-high-end-munich-2024

 

Will there be a upgrade pathway?

[Kirby66]

3 hours ago, eostre23 said:

Just checked.

Arc is playing Midnight Blue (2012 remaster) via both Qobuz & Tidal.

Blue Coast Collection - The E.S.E Sessions (Audiophile Edition SEA) playing via Tidal & Qobuz.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Tim - much appreciated

[AussieMick]

15 hours ago, Kirby66 said:

Innuos Zenith Mk3 not playing Qobuz albums ??

 

Some time ago I found an album I liked streaming on Qobuz in the car via my iPhone. When I accessed the album on my Zenith the album showed with all the metadata and the 'counter' at the bottom of the screen was moving but no sound. Weird I thought but as I have a Sublime subscription I purchased and downloaded the file, imported it to the Zenith thinking that would fix it but alas still no sound. I even deleted the streaming link and downloaded version from the Zenith and downloaded / imported again - same result.

 

Now it's happened again. This time on two albums from the same 'record company'. I'm wondering if maybe it's a 'access rights' thing due to geographic location but if so why will it play from my phone and not the streamer?

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

Could someone else try to play these tracks or albums from Qobuz on your Innuos server and let me know if they work?

 

Kenny Burrell / Midnight Blue (2012 Remaster) / Chitlins Con Carne (2012 Remaster)

 

Blue Coast Artists / Blue Coast Collection - The E.S.E Sessions (Audiophile Edition SEA) / Looking For A Home

 

Thanks in advance for any help or advice

Both play just fine for me. 

[Kirby66]

7 hours ago, AussieMick said:

Both play just fine for me. 

Thanks Mick

[Kirby66]

On 18/05/2024 at 5:42 AM, Kirby66 said:

Thanks Mick

Hi @eostre23 & @AussieMick, I believe I've found the problem - really should have looked at this much earlier. My DAC has a max bit rate of 96kHz ... I downloaded the albums at 24/196kHz 

[eostre23]

Ah-ha..Always great to beat the "Well it was working before?" scenario.

[hifi noamd]

On 6/10/2020 at 6:16 PM, markm1111 said:

I'll join in. I have an Innuos Zenith MKIII 4tb. Running Roon as core, haven't tried using Squeezelite yet.

 

I moved on to the Zenith from an Aurender N100H streamer. The ripping functionality of the Zenith is first rate, and I re-ripped all of my CDs. Roon is much nicer to use, although the Aurender software was no slouch. Tidal integration is much smoother with Roon/Innuos. Overall it is a much better user experience

 

Sound quality is difficult to say as I didn't compare them side by side, and I also had some other changes thrown into the mix at the same time. Buyers bias says the Zenith sounds better though 

 

Not cheap, but I am happy with my decision. Next step is to run a Cat 6 cable through the wall to the family room system in order to stream directly from the Zenith to a Squeezebox Touch as Roon endpoint, skipping the home network. Two for the price of one!

hi how is your experience with the Innous going ?im thinking of either going with the aurender ripper server (good deal ) or going the innous route . how do you compare metadata  capabilties (have a lot of music that is on old drives and mislabelled or not at all and needs organising .

[Hydrology]

Innuos Sense 3.0 now available

 

https://community.innuos.com/threads/innsights-whats-new-with-sense-3-0.103/?_gl=1*1poxjeu*_ga*MTkzOTI2NzgxNy4xNzIxNzgzNjgx*_ga_BBFSQGD3HG*MTcyMTc4MzY4MC4xLjEuMTcyMTc4MzY4NS41NS4wLjQ0NTE0NjU5MA..

 

[Peter Zapp]

Sadly no longer for Mk II devices.

[AussieMick]

1 hour ago, Peter Zapp said:

Sadly no longer for Mk II devices.

But they’ll surely continue security updates and  the like. It won’t become a brick. 

[Hydrology]

Little bug fix update available:-

 

[Gambit 1870]

Hi all, 

After a self imposed 18 month ban from purchasing anything hifi related due to poor decision making, I've decided to upgrade my streamer (node 2i).

I'm specifically only looking at streamers, so Pulse series seems the logical choice in the innous range. 

Looking for real world feedback thanks. 

Haven't decided on USB or I2S as only used the coax input on the DAC till now. Need to factor in cables as well. 

 

Will be feeding an Aqua La Scala Optilogic Mk II DAC > Vitus RI 101. 

 

Budget - sub $10k 

 

Also considering Lumin U2 so if anyone has done a side by side that would also be helpful. 

 

Thanks

[Hydrology]

8 minutes ago, Gambit 1870 said:

Hi all, 

After a self imposed 18 month ban from purchasing anything hifi related due to poor decision making, I've decided to upgrade my streamer (node 2i).

I'm specifically only looking at streamers, so Pulse series seems the logical choice in the innous range. 

Looking for real world feedback thanks. 

Haven't decided on USB or I2S as only used the coax input on the DAC till now. Need to factor in cables as well. 

 

Will be feeding an Aqua La Scala Optilogic Mk II DAC > Vitus RI 101. 

 

Budget - sub $10k 

 

Also considering Lumin U2 so if anyone has done a side by side that would also be helpful. 

 

Thanks

Well the Innuos doesnt have I2S out if you're planning to want to use that connection.

[lebowski]

7 minutes ago, Gambit 1870 said:

Hi all, 

After a self imposed 18 month ban from purchasing anything hifi related due to poor decision making, I've decided to upgrade my streamer (node 2i).

I'm specifically only looking at streamers, so Pulse series seems the logical choice in the innous range. 

Looking for real world feedback thanks. 

Haven't decided on USB or I2S as only used the coax input on the DAC till now. Need to factor in cables as well. 

 

Will be feeding an Aqua La Scala Optilogic Mk II DAC > Vitus RI 101. 

 

Budget - sub $10k 

 

Also considering Lumin U2 so if anyone has done a side by side that would also be helpful. 

 

Thanks

I had a modified Node 2i with LPS module and Geiseler Power Supply and thought it sounded pretty good.

Did a lot of research before buying an Innuos Zen Mk3 and it is a significant step up from the Node, in dynamics, tone, detail, everything. You will hear so much more in your playback.

 

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Gambit 1870 said:

I've decided to upgrade my streamer (node 2i).

I'm specifically only looking at streamers, so Pulse series seems the logical choice in the innous range. 

Hmmmm, driving a Aqua La Scala Optilogic Mk II DAC with a modded Node 2i ???? 

 

If you are going down the Pulse range, suggest the Pulsar with a built in Phoenix lite USB reclocker.

 

Not sure whether you want to go down the DIY route, but if so, start another thread...

[Gambit 1870]

22 minutes ago, Snoopy8 said:

Hmmmm, driving a Aqua La Scala Optilogic Mk II DAC with a modded Node 2i ???? 

 

If you are going down the Pulse range, suggest the Pulsar with a built in Phoenix lite USB reclocker.

 

Not sure whether you want to go down the DIY route, but if so, start another thread...

I'm not, that was another poster, mine is stock. I was planning on upgrading the streamer sooner but that's another story which lead to the ban

 

In relation to I2S I was told by a dealer that an I2S module was an option in the pulsar. Given I've never used either USB or I2S I'm not sure which will sound better. 

 

Maybe mods can move this thread if the wrong location

Edited August 11, 2024 by Gambit 1870

[Guest]

22 hours ago, Gambit 1870 said:

In relation to I2S I was told by a dealer that an I2S module was an option in the pulsar. Given I've never used either USB or I2S I'm not sure which will sound better. 

I far prefer USB over AES/EBU, digital coax, optical. I have the Phoenix USB reclocker and it is excellent. 

 

I have not used i2S, but it is an internal bus protocol which is said to be even better than USB.  Many people use a DDC to convert to i2S but the Pulsar with the its own i2S should be much better than using a DDC.  There are several i2S protocols, so please make sure the Pulsar can be configured to meet the Aqua version.

Edited August 11, 2024 by Snoopy8
Typo

[Hydrology]

1 hour ago, Gambit 1870 said:

In relation to I2S I was told by a dealer that an I2S module was an option in the pulsar. Given I've never used either USB or I2S I'm not sure which will sound better. 

 

The Pulsar does not have I2S out, just USB and ethernet. A module option is the first I've heard - sounds like they're getting mixed up with the new NG series which will have modular output options. 

With I2S, AES, USB, Coax, Ethernet etc, one is not better than the other, it is the implementation that matters AND the synergy between the source and DAC.

USB out of Innuos products is fantastic.

Edited August 11, 2024 by Hydrology

[eostre23]

+1 for the USB (Zenith Mk3 to Denafrips DAC/DDC combo).

I'm still waiting for the release dates & pricing on the NG Zen?

I fear going by European prices it may a extensive hike!

[Godot]

5 hours ago, Gambit 1870 said:

 

Will be feeding an Aqua La Scala Optilogic Mk II DAC > Vitus RI 101. 

 

 

I have the Aqua La Scala Optologic Mk II DAC, I love it, I use an Antipodes K22. 
The Aqua La Scala I2S is proprietary to connect their own streamer to, not the usual configuration. 
I use aes/ebu mostly, sounds great. 

[lebowski]

apologies as I did not know the OP’s DAC is $12k so my reference is probably irrelevant

[Silver Audiophile]

I've tried the following below:

 

1) Innuos Zen Mk3 > Aqua La scala Optologic MkII - Using USB interconnect.

2) Aqua LINQ streamer > Aqua La Scala Optologic MkII - Using a proprietary I2Q cable from Aqua.

 

I liked the first option way more. Warmer, fuller, more engaging. 

Second option had a smidge more detail. But, the sound was way too thin and music was unemotional.

 

 

[Gambit 1870]

19 hours ago, Hydrology said:

 

The Pulsar does not have I2S out, just USB and ethernet. A module option is the first I've heard - sounds like they're getting mixed up with the new NG series which will have modular output options. 

With I2S, AES, USB, Coax, Ethernet etc, one is not better than the other, it is the implementation that matters AND the synergy between the source and DAC.

USB out of Innuos products is fantastic.

That was me getting mixed up, he was going to contact innous and see if there was an i2s option for pulsar due to USB out looking modular, however when he emailed me back it was the NG that he referred to. 

Given the Aqua uses RJ45 for i2s connecting USB seems the easier path way cable wise. 

Thanks for the info guys 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Gambit 1870

[Kirby66]

[PKay]

On 11/8/2024 at 10:38 AM, Gambit 1870 said:

Hi all, 

After a self imposed 18 month ban from purchasing anything hifi related due to poor decision making, I've decided to upgrade my streamer (node 2i).

I'm specifically only looking at streamers, so Pulse series seems the logical choice in the innous range. 

Looking for real world feedback thanks. 

Haven't decided on USB or I2S as only used the coax input on the DAC till now. Need to factor in cables as well. 

 

Will be feeding an Aqua La Scala Optilogic Mk II DAC > Vitus RI 101. 

 

Budget - sub $10k 

 

Also considering Lumin U2 so if anyone has done a side by side that would also be helpful. 

 

Thanks

You should consider getting someone to put together a NUC in a heat sinking case (fanless) paired with a Matrix X SDIF 3. Significantly cheaper and it sounds amazing. Then you won’t need to worry about redundancy.  The Matrix has i2s out. 

Edited September 11, 2024 by PKay