Frank Prowse Hi-Fi Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 Switch everything off and try a standard, cheap. printer cable. You know, the one you get from Officeworks. Report back.
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Frank Prowse Hi-Fi said: Switch everything off and try a standard, cheap. printer cable. You know, the one you get from Officeworks. Report back. I thought that was what I tried with the Belkin printer cable. No difference.
lebowski Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 have you updated to latest SenseOS? there have been a couple of releases over the past few weeks
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 I didn’t switch off the Mini - would that make a difference? Another suggestion via Cameron (at Innuos ?) is to roll back the DS o/s to an earlier version and then re-install Sunlight? Thoughts?
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, lebowski said: have you updated to latest SenseOS? there have been a couple of releases over the past few weeks Can’t say definitely but I would expect that Anthony has the Mini up to date on the s/w as he is the Innuos man for SA.
Grizzly Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 54 minutes ago, lebowski said: have you updated to latest SenseOS? there have been a couple of releases over the past few weeks Yes the firmware is up to date as of last night. We've now tried 4 different USB cables with the same issue each time. A hard reboot of the PS Audio is the only thing that alleviates things but only temporarily. Playback via coaxial SPDIF is flawless. The only thing I can think of is the PS audio firmware rollback, then try, then update and test. Failing that a USB-I2S converter may be the only solution
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 I find I’m in a certain mood that was excellently put by the late Queen Elizabeth 11, “grief is the price we pay for love”. And, my wife isn’t grieving as she doesn’t love my stereo. Off to try the s/w roll back and forwards.
sakabatou Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, Grizzly said: The only thing I can think of is the PS audio firmware rollback, then try, then update and test. Failing that a USB-I2S converter may be the only solution It might be hardware failure, rather than firmware incompatibility. You're welcome to come by and test on my DS
Frank Prowse Hi-Fi Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 For the sake of getting some music playing, any reason NOT to use the coaxial output of the ZENMini into the PSA?
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Frank Prowse Hi-Fi said: For the sake of getting some music playing, any reason NOT to use the coaxial output of the ZENMini into the PSA? I want to hear the quality of the USB as so many users & reviewers say at every level below the Statement the Phoenix reclocker makes a substantial improvement on sound quality. So, in my way of thinking if I like the base unit I would very likely jump up a level or two and add the Phoenix- but as far as I understand it I need a rock-solid USB connection. I’m not sure of other competition - I guess the Antipodes K30 or K50, Grim Audio MU1, but the K50 and MU1 are pricy.
Hydrology Posted September 17, 2022 Author Posted September 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, frankn said: but as far as I understand it I need a rock-solid USB connection. This of course makes perfect sense, but Im not aware of any specific compatibility issues with PSA and Innuos product. I am sure there are many satisifed users out there. The joys of digital audio.
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 Did the s/w roll back and then to Sunlight. Worked for a while using the “play anything” tile but I then tried to access individual files and the music is lost. I can immediately swap over to the I2S input and play a disc through the DS Memory player (transport) and into the DAC without a problem. Confused.
Frank Prowse Hi-Fi Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, frankn said: Did the s/w roll back and then to Sunlight. Worked for a while using the “play anything” tile but I then tried to access individual files and the music is lost. I can immediately swap over to the I2S input and play a disc through the DS Memory player (transport) and into the DAC without a problem. Confused. If memory serves me correct even Paul from PSAudio did a video recently showing an Innuos Zen(ith?) as their server brand of choice, so confident its a unique issues youre having. 1
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, Hydrology said:The joys of digital audio. Hmmmmnm. Yes, I was hoping someone with a PS Audio DS DAC was using a Innuos product and might already have gone through this.
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Frank Prowse Hi-Fi said: If memory serves me correct even Paul from PSAudio did a video recently showing an Innuos Zen(ith?) as their server brand of choice, so confident its a unique issues youre having. Yes, Paul has expressed his vote for Innuos product in his videos. 1
AussieMick Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 Have you contacted Innuos service? They are fantastically helpful. 1
frankn Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, AussieMick said: Have you contacted Innuos service? They are fantastically helpful. I’m leaving that side of things to @Grizzly. 1
vinyl-62 Posted September 18, 2022 Posted September 18, 2022 On 12/09/2022 at 4:14 PM, Hydrology said: Something that was overlooked but may be of interest to some Innuos forum members is the introduction of streaming platform IDAGIO in the next (2.3) Sense update! About time! IDAGIO is a wonderful streaming platform for classical music. 3
AussieMick Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 It’s out of proportion financially, but I just swapped in a Whisper power cable from https://www.commongroundcables.com/ and the result is transformative in many ways. It has replaced an Isotek Elite cable. All of the hifi elements are improved, but it’s the increase in musical engagement and intensity that has really jumped a level or two. I’m very happy I’ve made the swap, and disappointed I didn’t do it earlier. Cheers Mick 2
Kirby66 Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 7 hours ago, AussieMick said: It’s out of proportion financially, but I just swapped in a Whisper power cable from https://www.commongroundcables.com/ and the result is transformative in many ways. It has replaced an Isotek Elite cable. All of the hifi elements are improved, but it’s the increase in musical engagement and intensity that has really jumped a level or two. I’m very happy I’ve made the swap, and disappointed I didn’t do it earlier. Cheers Mick Hey @AussieMick I'd not heard of the Whisper PC before but have been on a bit of a PC upgrade journey for a while now ... OEM to EGM entry level to EGM top level and most recently a couple of Luna Mauve. Where did you swap the Whisper in to? A bit of a search took me to a thread in the PSAudio forum where certainly the guy was moving the Whisper to different components but also some comments about getting improvements across multiple components by using a better PC to feed the power regenerator / conditioner. To date I've found the biggest SQ improvement by using the best PC on the most sensitive components ... Pre Amp & Server for me. Did you source the Whisper locally? Cheers, Mark
Hydrology Posted September 22, 2022 Author Posted September 22, 2022 Small Innuos update yesterday, mainly for some bug fixing (2.2.1) 2
AussieMick Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, Kirby66 said: Hey @AussieMick I'd not heard of the Whisper PC before but have been on a bit of a PC upgrade journey for a while now ... OEM to EGM entry level to EGM top level and most recently a couple of Luna Mauve. Where did you swap the Whisper in to? A bit of a search took me to a thread in the PSAudio forum where certainly the guy was moving the Whisper to different components but also some comments about getting improvements across multiple components by using a better PC to feed the power regenerator / conditioner. To date I've found the biggest SQ improvement by using the best PC on the most sensitive components ... Pre Amp & Server for me. Did you source the Whisper locally? Cheers, Mark Hey, Mark. The Whisper was feeding my power strip from the wall and it really did make a substantial difference there. At the time of purchase I tried it in that position and on the Innuos and from the wall was the best option. However, since then I’ve invested in an Akiko Audio Corelli power conditioner. It does e good enough job that now having the Whisper on the Innuos gives better results. It out performs the Isotek Elite comfortably. I purchased directly from Duncan Taylor at CommonGround. He’s a pleasure to deal with. You might know him as half of the hifi podcast with Darren Myers of PS Audio. https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-hifi-podcast-with-darren-and-duncan/id1532674642 there a few episodes where they discuss various power cables. Cheers Mick 1
Kirby66 Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Thanks @AussieMick - I added the podcast to my list just after reading your post earlier ... looking forward to listening to some episodes. I added a Keces IQRP-1500 Power Conditioner into my system (feeding everything except Power Amps) earlier this year and my experience was similar to your so expected that would be the case. Cheers, Mark 1
jeffnesh Posted September 26, 2022 Posted September 26, 2022 Question about internal HD vs NAS on Zen Mk3... I've got about 600gb of files, and a good number of rips to go I expect will get me to 700/800gb or so. If I fill up the 1TB, do I take a significant sound quality hit to add a NAS over ethernet to the mix? I'm assuming the Zen still buffers incoming ethernet data. I'd like to avoid the extra cost of a 2TB or 4TB upgrade, but would bite the bullet if it's not recommended to use a NAS for storage. Plan on using Sense, not Roon. Thanks for any insight.
AussieMick Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 I used NAS successfully for a while but it needed a pretty good Ethernet cable. It never quite got there compared to playing from the internal storage, but NAS and streaming were on par. The differences were VERY small and only really noticeable when I deliberately sat down to compare. That’s in a system with Chord TT2 and Focal Kanta 2 speakers, which I think is pretty revealing. However, I’ve ended up having around 500 gig of my constantly used library permanently on the internal drive, and I swap out other things as they take my fancy. It’s so quick and easy, it’s become my norm. 1
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