omara31 Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 I’m interested if anyone here is using the Zen Mk3 as server only, feeding to a streamer/DAC or streamer then DAC. The Zen as Roon core. I assume more is power generated in the Zen when used as server and player than when just in server mode.
omara31 Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 Thanks @frankn that is helpful. I upsample to max pcm only and only run one endpoint at a time, the server hardware could probably handle that.
frankn Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 Thank you for the notification. I notice my unit is at 2.2.2 and the update is 2.2.4 - should I just update to the latest or should I find & update 2.2.3 1st? The update screen in the Sense App doesn’t appear to provide that option.
Hydrology Posted November 19, 2022 Author Posted November 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, frankn said: Thank you for the notification. I notice my unit is at 2.2.2 and the update is 2.2.4 - should I just update to the latest or should I find & update 2.2.3 1st? The update screen in the Sense App doesn’t appear to provide that option. Its cumulative so just click update and all updates will be applied. 1 1
WasM Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 Got to play a little bit with the pulse mini during a recent trip to Singapore. Solid sound and great value at the price point. 4
Gryffles Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Apologies if mentioned earlier. I just tried my Zenith as a Roon Core as I was offered 3 months of Roon for $3 Well after 7 tracks I’m back using the Zenith stand-alone with Innuos Sense. The difference in SQ is easily noticeable as Roon just sounded a bit flat and rough. Happy about it as I just saved myself some money! Thanks Innuos 4 2
Gryffles Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, AussieMick said: 100% agree. Yep not even close 1
Silver Audiophile Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Gryffles said: Apologies if mentioned earlier. I just tried my Zenith as a Roon Core as I was offered 3 months of Roon for $3 Well after 7 tracks I’m back using the Zenith stand-alone with Innuos Sense. The difference in SQ is easily noticeable as Roon just sounded a bit flat and rough. Happy about it as I just saved myself some money! Thanks Innuos Regarding my Innuos Zen Mk3, aside from the following: 1) The awesome CD ripper and onboard storage, which makes my CD collection sound better verses multiple CD transports and players (some costing more than 7K euros). 2) The awesome Innuos Sense app, ease of use, and general user experience. By far, it's the Innuos sounds which makes it my preferred streamer/server. I have trialed multiple other high end alternatives including a Danish beast of streamer retailing for over $20K. What makes the Innuos stand out is it's organic analog fullness to the sound (while retaining delicacy and detail). I find all the other alternatives sound too clinical, bright, thinned out, fatiguing, and the digital glare is simply off putting! 7
Kirby66 Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 On 01/12/2022 at 2:29 PM, Gryffles said: Yep not even close This was my experience as well ... SQ is great and Sense UI is very good
Kirby66 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 A friend recently started using HQPlayer and is very pleased with improved SQ ... using Roon and a K50 streamer. I noticed when I was looking at Inn-sights about innuOS 2.2 that you can set up as "HQPlayer NAA streamer". Has anyone tried this? If so what was the outcome? Thanks
AussieMick Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 On 19/8/2022 at 10:37 AM, Thelastjedi said: Has anyone compared this to a telos macro q? Im wondering if the phoenix would be an upgrade over the telos or on a similar level. Not sure if you ever got an answer to this? I loved my Macro Q when I did a lot of listening via a computer. I thought the improvement was a great value for money, too. However, while I heard subtle improvements when the Q went in the back of my Innuos Zen MK3, the differences were so subtle as to to be drowned by other considerations like mood, fatigue, and general noise in the house. The PhoenixUSB is a very different beast. Big differences always at all times. 3
Frank Prowse Hi-Fi Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 New Innuos update coming on Monday/Tuesday:- https://feedback.innuos.com/f/changelog/?fbclid=IwAR3xBHddPP4CIlLfX5A0xOPU-LXYoh9YvKAGi7O7qfJUsugtu1_k_V-GOQ4 4 1
rantan Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 Although I am not an owner, I am disappointed that Innuos now supports MQA. A backwards step if ever there was one. Still and all, it is now becoming almost impossible to avoid the scourge of the music industry that is MQA as most hardware streaming devices now have it as part of the deal. 2
Hydrology Posted February 2, 2023 Author Posted February 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, rantan said: Although I am not an owner, I am disappointed that Innuos now supports MQA. A backwards step if ever there was one. Still and all, it is now becoming almost impossible to avoid the scourge of the music industry that is MQA as most hardware streaming devices now have it as part of the deal. Just because a brand adds it to their product portfolio doesn't mean they have gotten into bed with the devil. I have spoken to a couple of people at the top end of some of the biggest digital brands in the world who have added MQA to their products merely to "tick a box", not because they think its the silver bullet of digital audio. The more you can answer "YES" to a clients questions about a product they are interested in, the less reason they can give to not buy the product. Innuos is a wonderful brand that seem to listen to what their invested (i.e people who have bought their products) clients want from their product, something we should applaud rather than dissuade. 3
rantan Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 @Hydrology Fair enough mate, as you say if it is what the market expects /wants then the business case is compelling. I acknowledge the reality, even if it makes me gag, but I think ultimately it will cause harm to the industry in ways we are yet to experience.
Hydrology Posted February 2, 2023 Author Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, rantan said: @Hydrology Fair enough mate, as you say if it is what the market expects /wants then the business case is compelling. I acknowledge the reality, even if it makes me gag, but I think ultimately it will cause harm to the industry in ways we are yet to experience. Personally I couldn't care either way for MQA, but I think giving a client exposure to all the options and let them find their own way over the journey is a good thing, as I think quite a few people have with MQA. From experience, some people will flat-out refuse to buy a product if it doesnt tick a certain number of (non-important) criteria, even though that one sticking point becomes the basis of a 180 degree flip in the future! (hindsight is a wonderful thing as they say) 1
rantan Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 YEP, OK. I have my strong views, but I don't want to take an owner's thread off topic, so I shall cease and desist now. 2 1
Hydrology Posted February 2, 2023 Author Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, rantan said: YEP, OK. I have my strong views, but I don't want to take an owner's thread off topic, so I shall cease and desist now. (All) views are valid and welcome! 1
AussieMick Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 I have a mate in the US where they have appalling mobile plans with incredibly expensive data. He has friends who use Tidal on the go because they feel like they get hi res without the high data cost. Okay, fine whatever, but there are people who like the idea for reasons other than sound quality. But also a bigger library than Qobuz, they’re not apple people, etc…
rantan Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AussieMick said: I have a mate in the US where they have appalling mobile plans with incredibly expensive data. He has friends who use Tidal on the go because they feel like they get hi res without the high data cost. Okay, fine whatever, but there are people who like the idea for reasons other than sound quality. But also a bigger library than Qobuz, they’re not apple people, etc… My apologies if this should be obvious ,but what exactly are you referring to? Edited February 2, 2023 by rantan
AussieMick Posted February 2, 2023 Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, rantan said: My apologies if this should be obvious ,but what exactly are you referring to? Sorry! Why Tidal is popular amongst some. The promise of hi-res in a much smaller amount of data. 1
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