Science news thread

[Pops110]

Please stop.

[oztheatre]

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[oztheatre]

Virtual particles have NEVER been, or ever will be, the inputs or outputs of any experiment ever done. period. 

 

[oztheatre]

More nonsense debunked.

 

 

[Pops110]

1 hour ago, oztheatre said:

 

Oh dear. look, If you want to believe in muons and other nonsensical fantasy particles hey go right ahead. They are abstract concepts, ie not real. Why the hell are we discussing things that have no basis in reality whatsoever? Go and read these peoples quotes and tell me if they really make any logical sense. They're insane. they are mathematicians NOT scientists. This nonsense is hollywood science.. and just like movies, they are not real.

 

Leonard Susskind Where intuition and common sense failed, they had to create new forms of intuition, mainly through the use of abstract mathematics."

 

lol @ the insanity that is quantum.

I really love you’re enthusiasm and passion, but if you flood people with video after video of people that really don’t have any credentials people will not take you seriously.

I will have a look through a couple of your videos when I have time, I have watched some you posted before. 
Unfortunately most really don’t seem to have a grasp on reality. Just because someone has a PhD doesn’t mean they are good at or fully understand their so called area of expertise.

There are a lot of holes in what we understand and maybe some of the things you talk about will come to be accepted. I don’t think that will happen anytime soon though.

[oztheatre]

19 minutes ago, Pops110 said:

I really love you’re enthusiasm and passion, but if you flood people with video after video of people that really don’t have any credentials people will not take you seriously.

I will have a look through a couple of your videos when I have time, I have watched some you posted before. 
Unfortunately most really don’t seem to have a grasp on reality. Just because someone has a PhD doesn’t mean they are good at or fully understand their so called area of expertise.

There are a lot of holes in what we understand and maybe some of the things you talk about will come to be accepted. I don’t think that will happen anytime soon though.

 

I understand what you mean by this I really do. But credentials.. look peer review is circle jerk. It's their way of saying 'im not too sure you better check it for me and pat me on the back' Grant money and how the NSF works is pretty underhanded if you ask me. I know I know it goes against the grain, we all want to believe they have the **** together and everything is right. but the foundations of our reality are simpler than we've been lead to believe. You just don't get the grant money if you don't write within the walls they put up. For example you write a paper on the fact our star novas repeatedly, you're not getting any money ever. 

 

Point being, you don't need a phd or certiicate hanging on the wall to have common sense and logic. Wheeler knows more about cosmic mechanics than anyone. Any phd who had attempted to debate him has been destroyed. One of the problems is science has become too specialised with walls that go up in between the different aspects. It's been turned into a giant business. It's sad but that is our reality. 

 

It would cost more than 50K to present to the 'institutions' a better model of reality that they could grasp and see. You'd have to put together a complete presentation of cosmic mechanics with videos and everything in between, so that's not going to happen anytime soon. 

 

We think we're so advanced with helicopters on mars and computers and cars, that's invention, not wisdom and understanding.

 

I have nothing against atoms, matter is made of atoms, but atomism can't explain fields and everything is fields. This is old knowledge not anything new.

 

When AE removed the ether it had to replaced with something and that was particles. light is not and never will be a particle. The dual slit experiment has been thoroughly debunked, this was even known in the 1980's before the internet. The shift is well underway and the old model will die, that's progress. slow, but it will win out in the end.

[sir sanders zingmore]

Is this the “Martian” thread again?

[oztheatre]

It's ok not to know stuff, but it's not to pretend they do know stuff when they don't really understand the phenomena they're looking at. Descriptions are never explanations. I'm interested in the how and why, not the 'is' part. The horse goes around the track at 62km ph and covers x distance etc.. But why is the horse there? what is the horse? where did it come from? where is it going? (to be made into dog food when it's leg breaks haha) Math is a handicap to some degree, tells you very little about the nature of things. And that's all these scientists are, we have celebrity mathematicians pretending to be scientists and we have lawyers posing as politicians. Why we get nowhere.

[zippi]

5 minutes ago, oztheatre said:

Math is a handicap to some degree, tells you very little about the nature of things.

oversimplification to say the least.

that's all I'll say on the whole matter.

[emesbee]

My observation from reading through some of these posts is that a lot of them appear to be expressing opinions as if they are facts, and that is my opinion.

 

I won't go down the rabbit hole of arguing individual cases as everyone is entitled to form their own opinions, and I have no desire to try and change them just because I might disagree.

 

I will simply post this link about the scientific method, and leave it at that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

 

 

 

[Cloth Ears]

34 minutes ago, oztheatre said:

 

When AE removed the ether it had to replaced with something and that was particles. light is not and never will be a particle. The dual slit experiment has been thoroughly debunked, this was even known in the 1980's before the internet. The shift is well underway and the old model will die, that's progress. slow, but it will win out in the end.

Try looking up "Compton Scattering" and the practical applications of "not and never will be a particle"s in radiation therapy...

[Grant Slack]

On 16/04/2021 at 10:16 AM, Pops110 said:

EM drive, interesting concept. If it works will turn physics on its head.

 

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/amp33917439/emdrive-wont-die/

 

But it produces zero thrust: https://www.grenzwissenschaft-aktuell.de/latest-emdrive-tests-at-dresden-university-shows-impossible-engine-does-not-develop-any-thrust20210321/

 

cheers

Grant

[Cafad]

4 hours ago, oztheatre said:

 

Even CERN made matter from light. So if you're 'a fan' of these money wasting people you have the facts right there. Matter is and can only be ultra high energy light. 

Compounds of hydrogen which is explained by the distance of the electrostatic valence shells around the nucleus.

 

An interesting take on what CERN are doing but I have to ask what you mean with regard to the compounds of hydrogen.

[oztheatre]

37 minutes ago, Cafad said:

An interesting take on what CERN are doing but I have to ask what you mean with regard to the compounds of hydrogen.

 

All elements, all atoms are indeed compounds of hydrogen. The only fundamental particle there is. Even neutrons turn into protons.

 

They're little dynamos or generators, magneto dielectricity or electrostatic charge. I suggest you listen to the nature of the atom talk posted above and you'll understand over me trying to explain better.

 

The distances from the valence shells to the nucleus is the charge potential that is applied which we measure in picometres. Or a 'unit of dielectric induction', this gives rise to all the different atoms and then elements. That is pressure mediation going on. She only works off pressure mediation of fields. The photon and electron are phenomena which has cause. So the phenomena is real enough nobody denies that. Nobody asks the right questions so we just 'settle' for the next best thing, a description of the phenomena.

 

Pretty certain no branch of science has ever explained why atoms are 99.999999% empty space around the nucleus, it's not empty space at all.

 

Electricity Is electricity a cover-story for Electrostatics & their Secrets?

[oztheatre]

Fitting

 

[buddyev]

A bit put off by the trumpian tone of those vids. On the other hand the ability to do a funny Einstein accent certainly adds credibility to any scientific argument. 

[Grant Slack]

Hi guys

 

Today I found and joined this thread. Is it okay if we try to stick to what the OP said? 

 

MORE: Science News. Preferably with authoritative sources linked.

 

NOT SO MUCH: disrespecting the scientific method, name-calling of individual scientists, conspiracy theories, and left-field reinterpretations of data.

 

Just a thought.

 

cheers

Grant

[oztheatre]

1 hour ago, buddyev said:

A bit put off by the trumpian tone of those vids. On the other hand the ability to do a funny Einstein accent certainly adds credibility to any scientific argument. 

Trumpian tone? is that a new saying? Trump was a moron, wheeler is not.

yeah he's 'different' that's for sure lol

[oztheatre]

12 minutes ago, Grant Slack said:

Hi guys

 

Today I found and joined this thread. Is it okay if we try to stick to what the OP said? 

 

MORE: Science News. Preferably with authoritative sources linked.

 

NOT SO MUCH: disrespecting the scientific method, name-calling of individual scientists, conspiracy theories, and left-field reinterpretations of data.

 

Just a thought.

 

cheers

Grant

 

Grant, ever heard of Michau Kaku? He's a well known celebrity scientist. He says something here, 17 second video, damn! He admits they don't follow method. 

 

no conspiracy theories here. You have no idea what you've been missing. These individual scientists I have mentioned aside from Susskind are all dead anyway. If they were wrong they should be called out. It's how we progress. You make no progress patting them on the back and giving out certificates.

 

Anyhoo, the 'real scientists' are the electrical engineers, not men with calculators - mathematicians.

 

Very very hard for anyone to come out of the rabbit hole they've gone down.. None of these royal institute people will ever see things differently because it deflates egos and threatens funding. They're just people too, they have mortgages and bills to pay like all of us. 

[muon*]

38 minutes ago, oztheatre said:

Anyhoo, the 'real scientists' are the electrical engineers, not men with calculators - mathematicians.

  Do you even know what a Scientist is!

 

Edit: but then you appear to have no idea what science is, oh well...

Continue with the conspiracy based pseudoscience even though the thread is about science, no one will stop you.

I know reasoning it out of the question as it is one of the fundamentals of true science.

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[oztheatre]

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[buddyev]

24 minutes ago, oztheatre said:

People's minds are complete mush today.

YouTube has a lot to answer for

[oztheatre]

2 minutes ago, buddyev said:

YouTube has a lot to answer for

I don't blame YT, people are just getting lazier and not asking the right questions. We settle instead.

[oztheatre]

This will have rather profound implications for humanity.

 

Melt the ice caps, trigger the ice age.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-03094-7

[oztheatre]

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