Peterbean Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 On the subject of full range would anyone recognise these British 6” drivers? The rubber surround looks pretty robust 2
MattyW Posted January 4, 2023 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) On 30/04/2021 at 10:09 AM, muon* said: Are these close enough for you, @andyr? https://www.lii-audio.com/product/one-pair-flagship-10-fullrange-drivers-new-development-for-better-detail-balance-silver-10/ Expand The new Lii Song Platinum-10 are meant to significantly better the Silver-10..... Receive mine next week. Yes I know, frequency response wouldn't look as flat if the graph was 0 to 120db rather than -120 to 120. No proper reviews of these drivers yet. This is the closest thing (click here) apart from my conversations with Leon at Lii Song. From discussions a different paper pulp formula was used in creation of the cone, different suspension, the support for the driver needed to be upgraded vs the Silver-10 and a much larger neodymium magnet and probably a few other changes I've forgotten Despite looking similar to the Silver-10 this is effectively a completely different driver. Basically this is their cost is no object driver. The best that they can produce on their budget. It has to be remembered that they're a family run business of about 5 people in China before you factor in distribution networks in other countries, so this driver is a pretty big deal for them and a very noticeable step up over even their previous top of the line Silver-10. There are only two models in the Platinum series. Basically a 10" and I believe a 15" version will be available at some point also. My understanding is with a big enough cabinet these will achieve excellent bass for single driver, and this is one of the few drivers which simply does not need a super tweeter added so looking forward to mine. Edited January 4, 2023 by MattyW 3
Steever Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) I like what many full-range or wide-band drivers do. I've enjoyed a few sets of ESLs over the years and currently use 3" dynamic drivers in my car audio system mobile audiophile listening room. As much as I love the Audible Physics NZ3 drivers I currently have there doing 350Hz to 20kHz nearfield duties, I'm tempted to try something else, even if it confirms how good the AP NZ3 drivers are. At $69ea, the Markaudio Alpair 5.3 seems interesting and if they prove less than desirable in my application, it's not much lost. If they prove to be preferred, the AP NZ3 at $699 a pair may forever make me second guess high priced drivers. https://www.markaudio.com/online_shop/alpair/alpair-5-3/ Edited January 5, 2023 by Steever 1
Nicho_d Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 04/01/2023 at 4:22 AM, MattyW said: The new Lii Song Platinum-10 are meant to significantly better the Silver-10..... Receive mine next week. Expand I'm curious enough to give this a try. The Lil Song website has 5 or six different box designs. How do you choose between one of these or something different?
MattyW Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 06/01/2023 at 10:49 AM, Nicho_d said: I'm curious enough to give this a try. The Lil Song website has 5 or six different box designs. How do you choose between one of these or something different? Expand I’m having a cabinet professionally designed and built after measurements have been taken on the driver. Not using any of the Lii designs.
Nicho_d Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 06/01/2023 at 10:54 AM, MattyW said: I’m having a cabinet professionally designed and built after measurements have been taken on the driver. Not using any of the Lii designs. Expand That sounds better. I'm happy for you to share the designs with us when they're finished. I mean, just for curiosity's sake, of course 1
MattyW Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 06/01/2023 at 11:20 AM, Nicho_d said: That sounds better. I'm happy for you to share the designs with us when they're finished. I mean, just for curiosity's sake, of course Expand I’ll start a thread and document full development. I believe done right I’ll never want another pair of speakers 1 1
BRS Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 Halfway through building some Buschhorns (found the design on Stereonet) with Fostex FE103NVs. Had them in some small bass reflex enclosures. Sounded pretty good considering but base was obviously lacking. 4 1
Sub Sonic Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 06/01/2023 at 12:12 PM, BRS said: Halfway through building some Buschhorns (found the design on Stereonet) with Fostex FE103NVs. Had them in some small bass reflex enclosures. Sounded pretty good considering but base was obviously lacking. Expand Nice. I can see a fair bit of work in that already! 1
Grizzly Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Newly arrived Aurel Bryan 5 inch drivers in the Mk3 revision. Big changes with extra mass added to the cone, new doping, fill between whizzer and main cone, proper binding posts and a solid pole piece added. I'm looking forward to making some unusual TL cabinets for these sometime soon! 5
scuzzii Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 On 09/01/2023 at 10:08 PM, Grizzly said: Newly arrived Aurel Bryan 5 inch drivers in the Mk3 revision. Big changes with extra mass added to the cone, new doping, fill between whizzer and main cone, proper binding posts and a solid pole piece added. I'm looking forward to making some unusual TL cabinets for these sometime soon! Expand Saw your post on Insta - they look fantastic fully built 1
MattyW Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 On 09/01/2023 at 10:08 PM, Grizzly said: Newly arrived Aurel Bryan 5 inch drivers in the Mk3 revision. Big changes with extra mass added to the cone, new doping, fill between whizzer and main cone, proper binding posts and a solid pole piece added. I'm looking forward to making some unusual TL cabinets for these sometime soon! Expand Interesting,... Field coils? Where do you source these from? A quick Google shows they're Indonesian drivers?
Grizzly Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 On 09/01/2023 at 10:31 PM, MattyW said: Interesting,... Field coils? Where do you source these from? A quick Google shows they're Indonesian drivers? Expand Not field coil, though he does make that as an option as well as neodymium. But yes made in Indonesia by a very clever and humble bloke.
MattyW Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) @Grizzly do you have a thread started on these? I'd be interested in keeping track of your progress with these. Very interesting...... If I have space for a second system I'll keep in mind perhaps. Could be an interesting introduction to field coils for me Edited January 9, 2023 by MattyW
Grizzly Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 On 09/01/2023 at 11:11 PM, MattyW said: @Grizzly do you have a thread started on these? I'd be interested in keeping track of your progress with these. Very interesting...... If I have space for a second system I'll keep in mind perhaps. Could be an interesting introduction to field coils for me Expand It'll be a while before I can get serious about the build sadly, but I will document it! 1 1
thejt Posted January 10, 2023 Author Posted January 10, 2023 On 09/01/2023 at 10:08 PM, Grizzly said: Newly arrived Aurel Bryan 5 inch drivers in the Mk3 revision. Big changes with extra mass added to the cone, new doping, fill between whizzer and main cone, proper binding posts and a solid pole piece added. I'm looking forward to making some unusual TL cabinets for these sometime soon! Expand Fantastic looking drivers!
Grizzly Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 On 10/01/2023 at 4:33 AM, thejt said: Fantastic looking drivers! Expand Sound great too in some cabinets I made for them previously before the upgrades, smoother with more weight and any traces of shoutiness gone
MattyW Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 On 10/01/2023 at 4:59 AM, Grizzly said: Sound great too in some cabinets I made for them previously before the upgrades, smoother with more weight and any traces of shoutiness gone Expand Any need for super tweeters with these?
Grizzly Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 On 10/01/2023 at 6:12 AM, MattyW said: Any need for super tweeters with these? Expand Depends on your preferences I think, top end is pretty good. Interestingly he does make a super tweeter as well! 1
BRS Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 On 06/01/2023 at 12:12 PM, BRS said: Halfway through building some Buschhorns (found the design on Stereonet) with Fostex FE103NVs. Had them in some small bass reflex enclosures. Sounded pretty good considering but base was obviously lacking. Expand Got them up and running. Just need to finish them in black. Pretty happy so for. They seem to image really well. Mids and bass are obviously better than previous small bookshelf enclosure. Quite a bit more revealing than expected. These replace some Rogers LS2as so I think makes sense. Still running a cheap old sub but wasn't planning on trying to get away from that. Already looking at a different/better driver and even a different amp (currently Azure 650a). Damn you upgrade-itis!!! Damn you!!!! Interested on others experience with a driver upgrade and perhaps a more suitable amp. Might post in DIY thread to see others experience 3
MattyW Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) My Lii Song Platinum-10 drivers..... Just waiting for suitable cabs. Big, beautiful drivers Edited January 18, 2023 by MattyW 1 1
BRS Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 On 18/01/2023 at 7:02 AM, MattyW said: My Lii Song Platinum-10 drivers..... Just waiting for suitable cabs. Big, beautiful drivers Expand Wow!! I must turn away before I start entertaining any ideas on a new project. Shame you have to hide them in an enclusure. 1
Grizzly Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 On 18/01/2023 at 7:05 AM, BRS said: Wow!! I must turn away before I start entertaining any ideas on a new project. Shame you have to hide them in an enclusure. Expand Make it from clear Perspex, problem solved!! 1
MattyW Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) On 18/01/2023 at 7:05 AM, BRS said: Wow!! I must turn away before I start entertaining any ideas on a new project. Shame you have to hide them in an enclusure. Expand Ha, true though really sonics are the only thing matter. They’re meant to be a very significant improvement over their previous reference drivers, the Silver-10. Given how good the Silver-6 are in a back loaded horn I figure these will be my final speakers. Really though, I think you need a pair of these in your living room Edited January 18, 2023 by MattyW 1
crtexcnndrm99 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 On 18/01/2023 at 7:29 AM, Grizzly said: Make it from clear Perspex, problem solved!! Expand I would very much enjoy seeing this as well. It will show off the angel hair wire too 1
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