Inside Bill's Boutique Speaker cables

[Neo]

Had a look at what WE cables supposed to look like. Consistently like this

Neo

 

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 10:43 AM, Maxi said:

S there is apiece of it next to the cable broken off no dialectic is used def no oiled cotton lol 

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If the other connector is in tact, take a snap of the wires connected?

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 10:45 AM, Neo said:

Had a look at what WE cables supposed to look like. Consistently like this

Neo

 

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Yep, signature fabric outer. Red PVC outer seems like pulled out of the popular (and excellent value) Canare speaker wire?

[Maxi]

The signal cable is the twittered pair 

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 10:52 AM, Maxi said:

The signal cable is the twittered pair 

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So that one is a RCA?

 

Whats the twisted pair inside, little black jacket there? Looks like a single solid (?) copper and one silver or silver plated twisted for signal, and a conductor pulled from a Canare 4S8 or 4S11 for the return.

[Maxi]

That's the rca the twisted pair are the signal wire the big red wire is the Sheild wire I'm assuming tinned copper or silver and copper twisted together as a signal wire 

[Maxi]

Yes the big red is the return signal sorry 

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:00 AM, Maxi said:

That's the rca the twisted pair are the signal wire the big red wire is the Sheild wire I'm assuming tinned copper or silver and copper twisted together as a signal wire 

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Probably his boutique silver one? I think he mentioned somewhere he uses a strand of solid jewellry silver wire in the signal path.

[Maxi]

I asked him that and he said it was tinned copper no silver it's western electric I don't no but it didn't instil confidence in me so I proceeded to dismantle the xlr 

[Maxi]

[Neo]

Like bengeneer said trademark appearance of WE cable

Neo

[Bengineer]

That's his Western Electric labelling.

 

So the XLR was the Canare with the foil on outside?

Edited August 25, 2021 by Bengineer

[Maxi]

Yes the xlr was the canare they both have the same foil covering them 

[Rob Poort]

My god. 

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:11 AM, Maxi said:

Yes the xlr was the canare they both have the same foil covering them 

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This one?

 

https://store.cliff.com.au/microphone-cables/42-canare-l-2t2s-balanced-cable.html

 

Or this one?

 

https://store.cliff.com.au/microphone-cables/51-canare-l-4e6s-balanced-cable.html

Edited August 25, 2021 by Bengineer

[crtexcnndrm99]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:09 AM, Neo said:

Like bengeneer said trademark appearance of WE cable

Neo

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Could it be that a single strand of this stranded WE wire is sued as one of the twisted pair signal wires in the above break down pics? Just thinking it’s a possibility 

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:12 AM, crtexcnndrm99 said:

Could it be that a single strand of this stranded WE wire is sued as one of the twisted pair signal wires in the above break down pics? Just thinking it’s a possibility 

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Thats much thinner stranded. The pic looks to be thicker jewellery type wire.

 

Regardless, the whole idea of the signature sound is its strand count, metal type and process, geometry and insulation. Edit: And maybe some nostalgia.

Edited August 25, 2021 by Bengineer

[LogicprObe]

 

This looks like a hatchet job to me.

[Mr_Fried]

I recently bought two pairs of these off a friend @cccrchairman, who had bought them directly from Bill a month or so back. These were surplus to requirement, so I said I would take them off his hands rather than wait for a pair.
 

Anyway thought I would add my two cents worth, as there are concerns around authenticity. Here is the link to the cables: 

 

That bundle of WE cable is pretty thick. Bill advertises his cables as having a pair of the wires inside, not the whole bunch. 
 

Here are some detailed photos of the inside of one of mine. 
 

From what I see (and I am no expert) this seems legit?

 

 

 

Edited August 25, 2021 by Mr_Fried
Typo

[muon*]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:14 AM, LogicprObe said:

 

This looks like a hatchet job to me.

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That's a long bow to draw when It's just someone showing what they got.

 

You need to provide evidence of malicious intent, otherwise you are just making an assumption based on your belief.

 

Edit: his XLR cable that was purchased as using WE is just Canare.

Edited August 25, 2021 by muon*

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:18 AM, Mr_Fried said:

I recently bought two pairs of these off a friend @cccrchairman, who had bought them directly from Bill a month or so back. These were surplus to requirement, so I said I would take them off his hands rather than wait for a pair.
 

Anyway thought I would add my two cents worth, as there are concerns around authenticity. Here is the link to the cables: 

 

That bundle of WE cable is about 10cm thick. Bill advertises his cables as having a pair of the wires inside. I know this because the interconnect on my desk is not 10cm thick
 

Here are some detailed photos of the inside of one of mine. 
 

From what I see (and I am no expert) this seems legit?

 

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Yeah looks it. Is it slightly waxey still? Each wire was covered in waxed cotton no? He might take that off though, only Bill would be able to clarify.

 

The WE XLR from before is definately not, maybe just a mislabel and ship it out.

[Mr_Fried]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:22 AM, Bengineer said:

Yeah looks it. Is it slightly waxey still? Each wire was covered in waxed cotton no? He might take that off though, only Bill would be able to clarify.

 

The WE XLR from before is definately not, maybe just a mislabel and ship it out.

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Yeah it looks it, the cotton was stripped off, but to be fair it would have been funky as hell. They seem nice and clean. 
 

Now is a rough time for everyone. Being in hospital is not fun and it seems that Bill has a lot going on. He would not have so many happy customers if he didn’t look after people. 
 

To quote the great philosophers Bill and Ted: “Be excellent to each other”

[Bengineer]

  On 25/08/2021 at 11:30 AM, Mr_Fried said:

Yeah it looks it, the cotton was stripped off, but to be fair it would have been funky as hell. They seem nice and clean. 
 

Now is a rough time for everyone. Being in hospital is not fun and it seems that Bill has a lot going on. He would not have so many happy customers if he didn’t look after people. 
 

To quote the great philosophers Bill and Ted: “Be excellent to each other”

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Most excellent.

 

Yeah, few decades might do that to cotton haha.

[Jakeyb77_Redux]

A bit piss weak to attack the guy publicly when he’s in hospital. 
I probably would have waited to send the pics directly to him and wait for a response. If there was then a discrepancy in the item you’d have a point. Do you have an email trail of discussion or did you just go off half cocked? 
Until proven there’s an issue, I’ll trust @Bill125812 integrity he has shown to many on the forum over the years, including myself. Hope he  gets well soon. 
 

[Maxi]

Yes mate long discussion mate and photos back and forth mate before you go off half cocked was promised a new set which were becoming a long time coming