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7 minutes ago, mloutfie said:

sadly same thing played few track fine then just stop responding to skip track then stuck

Uninstall LMS 8.4.0 and install LMS 9.0.1. The combination of LMS 9 and Squeezelite V2 resolved many of the issues on the SnakeOil forum.

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1 hour ago, Snoopy8 said:

Uninstall LMS 8.4.0 and install LMS 9.0.1. The combination of LMS 9 and Squeezelite V2 resolved many of the issues on the SnakeOil forum.

Done that but lyrion is not being picked up. Anything I need to do other than install lyrionmusicserver? the snakeoil still trying to run LMS

**** 2025-01-27T21:04:45
**** Logitech Media Server

Start Player: cd /var/www;/var/www/players/lms/start /var/www/players/lms 2>&1;
Failed to restart logitechmediaserver.service: Unit logitechmediaserver.service is masked.

 

 

Posted
34 minutes ago, mloutfie said:

Done that but lyrion is not being picked up. Anything I need to do other than install lyrionmusicserver? the snakeoil still trying to run LMS

**** 2025-01-27T21:04:45
**** Logitech Media Server

Start Player: cd /var/www;/var/www/players/lms/start /var/www/players/lms 2>&1;
Failed to restart logitechmediaserver.service: Unit logitechmediaserver.service is masked.

My bad, I thought you were on 1.4.  With 1.3, you will need to download the deb file

https://lyrion.org/lms-server-repository/

And SSH into instance and do a "sudo apt install (full pathname of deb file)"

Posted

yep that's what I did actually download the deb package and install

 

I manage to get around the error by calling  

sudo systemctl unmask logitechmediaserver.service

then manually running 

/var/www/players/lms/start /var/www/players/lms 2>&1;
 

then I restart. status is ticked but no access to http://serveripaddress:9000/ or logs

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Posted
1 minute ago, mloutfie said:

yep that's what I did actually download the deb package and install

 

I manage to get around the error by calling  

sudo systemctl unmask logitechmediaserver.service

then manually running 

/var/www/players/lms/start /var/www/players/lms 2>&1;
 

then I restart. status is ticked but no access to http://serveripaddress:9000/ or logs

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Mmm, I am out of ideas. I did run LMS 9, Squeezelite V2 on 1.3 successfully.

 

You can either post this error on the SnakeOil forum or install 1.4. 

Posted (edited)

Sadly after all the works still not working. I want to put this in snakeoil forum but there seems to be any log I can find 

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Posted

They say to only change one thing at a time...

 

My son updated my Snakeoil server and it all went fine:

 

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But we also fitted a 2nd (1TB) SSD to use as the music library - using the other SATA port on the mITX motherboard. This was a problem because we found that it had been used as a temporary Windows OS, so had to be formatted, which seems to have not worked well, as it didn't want to accept more than about 150 GB of music.

 

Then we updated from JRiver 28 to 33 (Linux). JRiver wants to "Analyze" all music before showing up - this took many hours, and despite the SSD only accepting about 2/3 of the library, JR shows the entire thing, so I have no idea whether it's actually on the 2nd SSD or not!

 

Anyway, it's playing music, but occasionally there are little 'bubbles' in the sound. Maybe once every 30 seconds, but sometimes a group of them together - tiny glitches, but enough to show that what's coming out is just a thin veneer that sounds like a cheap trick to make me think it's real music. Enough to chuck in digital forever! (That's how I feel every time a fault happens, then it's  bliss until the next time).

 

It's a complicated setup (Windows fanless mITX etc. computer talks to Linux server via an Uptone EtherRegen, which may be throttling the file transfer and causing corruption?), and I haven't made any progress sorting it out. I don't suppose anyone has had a similar experience, or could throw some light?

 

Cheers,

Brian.

Posted (edited)

Hey guys, I'm currently very happy with the performance of my Roon ROCK/MOCK however I remain curious about SnakeOil OS. I'm wondering what you would consider the benefits of SnakeOil OS vs ROCK? Can I for example host HQServer off it as well or something like that? I daresay each would be incredibly stable?

 

Does SnakeOil allow the creation of SMB network shares while being able to specify the username and password? I see this a key problem with the ROCK image where Windows 11 considers the SMB share insecure due to its easily guessed username and password. Just can't easily access it.

 

I imagine it will autoupdate Roon Server just the same as ROCK does so probably much the same on that front.

 

Cheers

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Posted
2 hours ago, MattyW said:

Hey guys, I'm currently very happy with the performance of my Roon ROCK/MOCK however I remain curious about SnakeOil OS. I'm wondering what you would consider the benefits of SnakeOil OS vs ROCK?

The biggest advantage of SnakeOil OS (SO) is its SQ.  I have heard an improvement in the SO Roon end point but have no recent experience with Roon Server.

 

3 hours ago, MattyW said:

Can I for example host HQServer off it as well or something like that? I daresay each would be incredibly stable?

Yes, Roon and Hqserver can run off SO, but we have not tested those extensively.  Should there be a problem, the developer, Agent Kith, will likely release an update relatively quickly. 

 

3 hours ago, MattyW said:

Does SnakeOil allow the creation of SMB network shares while being able to specify the username and password? I see this a key problem with the ROCK image where Windows 11 considers the SMB share insecure due to its easily guessed username and password. Just can't easily access it.

SO itself does not create SMB shares and you will need to use the Linux commands to do so.  Maybe put in a request to add this as standard SO?

 

3 hours ago, MattyW said:

I imagine it will autoupdate Roon Server just the same as ROCK does so probably much the same on that front.

If the Roon update is within the Room Server, it will auto update.  Otherwise, put in a request to Agent Kith to update SO.

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I've been listening to Snakeoil version 1.4.0 for a week and making comparisons, although comparisons weren't really necessary—it's so good that it's obvious right away. Snakeoil runs on my PC and is controlled via my smartphone. To my ears It betters every commercial Linux distro out there, and closes the gap on expensive dedicated audio servers by the likes of Melco etc.

 

By far the best sound quality that I've achieved is with Audirvana Origin installed on Ubuntu 24.10; if any of you Snakeoil users haven't tried this I strongly suggest you do.

 

The only niggle is that on Snakeoil load-up, Audirvana starts as a service before the network is running, therefore Audirvana Remote on smartphone cannot connect. I simply go to my computer, log into Snakeoil and stop and restart Audirvana via the terminal. A 30-second inconvenience.

 

Once again, Snakeoil 1.4.0 is absolutely wonderful and I've already congratulated Theng Kiat on what I think is a real achievement. 

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30 minutes ago, was_a said:

 

 

Once again, Snakeoil 1.4.0 is absolutely wonderful and I've already congratulated Theng Kiat on what I think is a real achievement. 


The 1.4.1 alpha release sounds pretty damn good too - I’ve been running it for the past week. I need to switch back to 1.4.0 again to confirm what I think I’m hearing. 

Posted
6 hours ago, Snoopy8 said:
10 hours ago, MattyW said:

SO itself does not create SMB shares and you will need to use the Linux commands to do so.  Maybe put in a request to add this as standard SO?

It's actually been there for a while but you need to enable it here. I use smb to copy from my nas server to SO. Read is enabled by default but for write you need to set user in SMB with the admin user. In Windows easiest is to map a drive

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Awesome, well I've just recieved a new 500GB and 4TG Crucial SSD. I'll be giving SnakeOil a try with Roon Server and hopefully the SMB share works perfectly. Be interesting to see if there is any sonic difference from Roon ROCK. Possible perhaps. If no different sonically then I daresay I will just continue runnign SnakeOil. Relaible SMB access and the potential to host additional services makes it a superior solution in my mind.

 

I've 3x Topton FU02 so it will be very easy to test the differences between this and Roon ROCK.

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