Quark Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, puunda said: I am in the process of painting my HT room. I have chosen a very dark grey. I have bought the paint but not put it on yet. I have painted the ceiling white, but it looks like it's common to paint the ceiling the same colour as the walls. Is there a reason for this? You get a LOT of light reflected off the screen and onto the ceiling. You will get better image contrast with a dark ceiling.
Puunda Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Quark said: You get a LOT of light reflected off the screen and onto the ceiling. You will get better image contrast with a dark ceiling. It's never crossed my mind to paint the ceiling any colour other than white. But it makes sense. Annoying thing is I just painted the ceiling 2 days ago. I guess I'll have to buy some matt paint to do the celling again. 1
lucmor444 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, puunda said: I am in the process of painting my HT room. I have chosen a very dark grey. I have bought the paint but not put it on yet. I have painted the ceiling white, but it looks like it's common to paint the ceiling the same colour as the walls. Is there a reason for this? What shade of grey did you choose?
Puunda Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, lucmor444 said: What shade of grey did you choose? I got a Taubmans colour called Private Jet This is what we used in the rest of the house as the feature wall colour. The idea is it'll be coherent colour scheme. Will see how it goes when I actually paint it. https://www.taubmans.com.au/colourcentre/colour-details/63617/private-jet 1
lucmor444 Posted July 7, 2021 Author Posted July 7, 2021 Sound's like the room will be awesome steffanth. Dulux Domino is a very dark grey and has been used by some to great effect in HTs and I may be inclined to use it on my projector wall (I can't go matt black - no WAF).
SGS Posted July 9, 2021 Posted July 9, 2021 On 7/7/2021 at 12:50 PM, steffanth said: I have the luxury of no WAF to consider It's great having no WAF
hopefullguy Posted July 9, 2021 Posted July 9, 2021 easy done though.. just have rules. no rules means no life. my 2 HT rooms are mine end of story.
Luc Posted July 9, 2021 Posted July 9, 2021 On 6/11/2021 at 9:06 PM, lucmor444 said: The ideal Luc but not a goer unfortunately - it’s not a dedicated room so needs to be reasonable suitable as a room for normal use as well. Music currently playing but I'm about to be booted out so pesky kids of rellies can play their consoles. Looking backwards Doubles up as a space for older kids to study and use the PC. So it's all black and it's very usable for whatever you want to use it for. Acoustically sealed as best as we could manage. Music and games leak out through the door in a muted fashion. 1
ronfishes Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 I am a painter by trade, the last 3 media rooms I have done have been: Dulux Teahouse Dulux Domino Dulux Raku Two were done withe the same colour on the ceiling, one was done by going 2 shades up on the relevant colour chart. The next one I am doing is Raku on 3 sides, for some reason he wants lexicon half on the viewing wall, but I have several months before I get to that job. Also Resene paints (which are generally very good) make a flat paint that is said to be wipe-able. I haven't used it yet, but I may be the guinea pig on my own room when it is eventually built. I am also not too sure if it comes in deep and or bright bases. 2
lucmor444 Posted July 11, 2021 Author Posted July 11, 2021 Good suggestions ronfishes. I will go for a lighter ceiling colour, either going up the colour chart as you noted or trying a half strength of the wall colour. What finish are you recommending/using?
Nevyn72 Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) The secondary system here in the lounge, but how about a feature wall with some bias lighting? I've since upgraded the 46" plasma for a 65" OLED. Edited July 11, 2021 by Nevyn72
Nevyn72 Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Here's the main Media room at one stage of it's evolution.... Matt, very dark blue front wall and ceiling. (white LEDs appear blue due to reflecting off a blue surface) Mid Blue side walls and matching block-out curtains. Mustard yellow rear walls, carpets and recliner lounges. Room is 6 x 3.6 x 2.4m (LxWxH) Screen is 110" 16:9 OZTS Majestic with Evo3D fabric. BTW: seating distance is 3.9m and I experimented with different screen sizes on a white wall and found anything bigger than the 110" was too big for my tastes. This worked out well as it allowed me to make features of the front corner bass traps. (floor to ceiling columns backlit both sides) Here's a link to the whole build thread. https://www.stereonet.com/forums/topic/201650-a-space-oddessy Don't underestimate the potential of heavy side curtains to darken the room as required. 2
Puunda Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 You guys have some nice rooms! I have a very very modest room in comparison, but 2 things I would do different if I was doing it again. Use a matt paint instead of a low sheen. I used low sheen because that's the default, and even though the room would be dark, the dark colour makes it very easy to see the imperfections on the walls ... and there's a lot of that in my room Paint the ceiling a dark colour. As always, YMMV. 1
lucmor444 Posted July 12, 2021 Author Posted July 12, 2021 puunda - I would have thought that a matte paint would make the imperfections even more visible?
Puunda Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 10 hours ago, lucmor444 said: puunda - I would have thought that a matte paint would make the imperfections even more visible? I could be wrong, but that's not how I understand it. This is why ceiling paint is always matte, cause it's so easy to see imperfections in ceilings. Maybe @ronfishes can clarify. 2
ronfishes Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 9:58 PM, puunda said: I could be wrong, but that's not how I understand it. This is why ceiling paint is always matte, cause it's so easy to see imperfections in ceilings. Maybe @ronfishes can clarify. Ceilings are almost always flat , for that reason . I would definitely go Matt, not low sheen as apart from the lower sheen to begin with, sometimes the massive amounts of tint added to make dark colours, makes the paint a little shinier as well. Flat walls would be ideal, but as I said I'm yet to try the Resene brand flat, which is actually a water based enamel. I believe Dulux make a theater black, although I'm not a huge fan of some Dulux products and can't speak for that particular one. 1
audiofeline Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Haymes sells a flat black acrylic paint, I can't find tins similar by other common paint manufactures. I've used several tins over the decades for DIY stuff. In response to the OP indicating that black wasn't possible, I was thinking that one workaround would be to paint black or 80% black (dark grey) around the screen and gradate it to a lighter colour outwards towards the edges of the wall. Harder to paint, but it will give the contrast around the screen, and have an interesting effect.
McCvinyl Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 I have started to use Home Theatre black in my new room but you only have to look at it and it leaves horrible marks. Is there anything that is a bit more durable. @ronfishes did you try the Resene with any luck. Your professional opinion would be greatly appreciated.
hopefullguy Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Nevyn72 has it right... forget the paint as your main wall covering and go full length curtains. hides any wall imperfections and acoustic panels. will give you a cinema feel and not a clinical feel. ceiling black velvet same as front screen wall, possibly out 1 or 2 meters on both side walls to "box" it. Edited November 17, 2021 by hopefullguy
OzJustin Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 Any more feedback on desirable paint options? I'm considering Dulux Domino in flat/matte for my ceiling above the screen and then low sheen for the walls and rear of the room to try to withstand finger marks. I also have black blockout curtains around and behind my screen so really only the ceiling would have to be matte paint.
McCvinyl Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 On 03/01/2022 at 12:03 AM, OzJustin said: Any more feedback on desirable paint options? I'm considering Dulux Domino in flat/matte for my ceiling above the screen and then low sheen for the walls and rear of the room to try to withstand finger marks. I also have black blockout curtains around and behind my screen so really only the ceiling would have to be matte paint. After a lot of trials I ended up using Porters Aniseed which has a slight sheen but is the most durable and can tolerate scuff marks to a certain point.
Kaynin Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 On 03/01/2022 at 12:33 AM, OzJustin said: flat/matte Word of advice, flat is much, much harder to get a quality finish with. You'll see brush and roller marks, especially when the screen is on and light is reflecting off the ceiling. My painter said go Matte, and that was hard enough for him. He did a bang up job, but he had to roll it three times. Also, cutting in around speakers/vents etc. with a brush will give a different finish, so he had to roll over those too. Flat would have been a nightmare. 2
hopefullguy Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) "Oz" love the curtain idea, not enough people use them imo. as for that ceiling i started out with the usual black matte from bunnings... fail. then found a local guy who's company made "the blackest paint" for a local movie house... fail. i am going triple black velvet for the full ceiling.. no bought black paint, within a reasonable budget, is black. (the japanese one is the exception but get a loan to buy it. ceiling is very important so no reflection. Edited January 4, 2022 by hopefullguy
OzJustin Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 7:31 AM, McCvinyl said: After a lot of trials I ended up using Porters Aniseed which has a slight sheen but is the most durable and can tolerate scuff marks to a certain point. Thanks for the suggestion. That looks to be a satin finish so may be similar to a 'low sheen' of other paint brands? It's quite expensive at $140 for 4L. How easy was it to apply a smooth finish and have you noticed many scuff marks? On 04/01/2022 at 7:47 AM, Kaynin said: Word of advice, flat is much, much harder to get a quality finish with. You'll see brush and roller marks, especially when the screen is on and light is reflecting off the ceiling. My painter said go Matte, and that was hard enough for him. He did a bang up job, but he had to roll it three times. Also, cutting in around speakers/vents etc. with a brush will give a different finish, so he had to roll over those too. Flat would have been a nightmare. Maybe it's the ceiling angle line that draws the eye to the finish. I used a British Paints custom domino colour in 'matt' finish in my previous theatre room for the wall behind the screen and the finish was good to my eye with a roller. As soon as I touched the wall it would go chalky and leave a permanent scuff though. If it's a ceiling that is painted and never touched again it may be ok, but I'd be looking at a low sheen minimum for any side and rear walls that could be touched by children etc. Have you tried the Haymes paints? 15 hours ago, hopefullguy said: "Oz" love the curtain idea, not enough people use them imo. as for that ceiling i started out with the usual black matte from bunnings... fail. then found a local guy who's company made "the blackest paint" for a local movie house... fail. i am going triple black velvet for the full ceiling.. no bought black paint, within a reasonable budget, is black. (the japanese one is the exception but get a loan to buy it. ceiling is very important so no reflection. Thanks. I really like the black blockout curtains in my space. It gives it a nice frame to the front stage. Have you found a supplier for 'Fidelio black velvet'? I think Rich at OzTheatre uses in his screen frames but I'm not sure he sells the fabric to the general public. I could go down that route but then I'd have the complexity of a false ceiling to stick the velvet to and it would no doubt cost substantially more than decent dark paint. I'm also considering going black fabric on my floor for the first 1-1.5m depth. I did a trial fit the other week and it seemed quite effective compared to my grey carpet tiles. That's one for my separate build thread though as I don't want to derail the OP's thread here on paint options.
Kaynin Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, OzJustin said: Maybe it's the ceiling angle line that draws the eye to the finish. I used a British Paints custom domino colour in 'matt' finish in my previous theatre room for the wall behind the screen and the finish was good to my eye with a roller. As soon as I touched the wall it would go chalky and leave a permanent scuff though. If it's a ceiling that is painted and never touched again it may be ok, but I'd be looking at a low sheen minimum for any side and rear walls that could be touched by children etc. Have you tried the Haymes paints? No it's light reflecting on the ceiling where you'll notice the quality of finish. As I mentioned even using a brush to cut in will produce a different finish to rolling that is visible - thus my painter cut in first up, then rolled three times to get it even across the whole ceiling. You'll notice an uneven finish in daylight, and also directly above the screen where there is more light. The paint on my walls and ceiling is Haymes. 1
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