Belden Digital Coax Cable - floor plan included!!

[Guest duckling]

Hi guys,

 

those who are using Belden or Canare - DIY digital cable, what model are you using? I am thinking of getting it for my DVD Player to AV Amp which I need abt 10m.

 

Appreciate if you can guide me from here. Thx

 

[Ender1624705735]

I'm using 5m of 1694A.. Good shielding for long length. I think it's $4/m.

 

Can also consider 1695A, at $9/m.

[Jag]

I'm using 1694 also. Its a safe bet even for 10m.

 

I use about 10m of it for my s-vdo to projector.

 

If u're using RCA jacks, I recommend using as higher quality RCA connectors as possible.

[Guest duckling]

Checked the 1694A at Belden website, seems like it's a Digital Video Coaxial Cable.

 

I am actually asking for a Digital Audio Coaxial Cable...those that connect from DVD-P to AV Amp so as to get DTS sound.

 

Can the 1694A be use for the kind of application I required?

 

Saw 1696A which is mentioned as Digital Audio Cable (AES/EBU), can I use it?

[MC_Hammer]

Checked the 1694A at Belden website, seems like it's a Digital Video Coaxial Cable.

 

I am actually asking for a Digital Audio Coaxial Cable...those that connect from DVD-P to AV Amp so as to get DTS sound.

 

Can the 1694A be use for the kind of application I required?

 

Saw 1696A which is mentioned as Digital Audio Cable (AES/EBU), can I use it?

 

Digital coaxial audio or video cables requires 75 ohms, so 1694 or 1695 both can be use as a digital coaxial from CDP to DAC or use as a yellow composite or component (RGB) video cables

[Ender1624705735]

The requirement for digital cable and video cable is the same. Basically those rated at 75ohms impedance.

 

The 1696a has two core, might present a problem in terminating. Also is rated at 110ohms impedance. This might have problem especially over a long distance. Safer to stick to 75 ohms cable like 1694a or the plenum(?) version 1695a.

[Jag]

::) I don't recommend it.

 

Its for pro-audio applications, where their audio signals used are balanced format. Home audio seldom use this, except for perhaps sunfire, REL, Bryston.......

 

Reasons why NOT to use it:

 

1) Impedance mismatch. We use 75ohms, they use 110ohms. Result is alot if signal interference & noise.

 

2) Shielded twisted pair not the same structure as co-ax. The twisted pair electromagnetic field will cause self-interference when used in co-ax applications.

 

3) Tinned copper not as good as 100% copper when using it long distance. Signal distortion as signals travelling in tin conductor will travel differently than those travelling in copper conductor. Result in different signal at output than compared to input.

 

[MC_Hammer]

Hi guys,

 

those who are using Belden or Canare - DIY digital cable, what model are you using? I am thinking of getting it for my DVD Player to AV Amp which I need abt 10m.

 

 

Why do u put the DVD player so far apart ??...10m is a long way for the signal to travel.....expect alot of signal loss !

 

Put your DVD player nearer n use a good quality coaxial cable is the best solution !

[Guest duckling]

Hi guys,

 

those who are using Belden or Canare - DIY digital cable, what model are you using? I am thinking of getting it for my DVD Player to AV Amp which I need abt 10m.

 

 

Why do u put the DVD player so far apart ??...10m is a long way for the signal to travel.....expect alot of signal loss !

 

Put your DVD player nearer n use a good quality coaxial cable is the best solution !

 

I have to choose between long Digital Coax Cable (for DVD-P to AV Amp) or long VGA Cable (for DVD-P to PJ). Seems like it's better to have long Audio Cable than Video Cable...any comment on these 2?

 

Pls refer to my draft plan below which planned to use 10m Digital Coax Cable.

 

[tcw]

Considering your room layout, you have made the right choice.

 

Getting a long digital coaxial cable is definitely better than a long video cable, as long video cable leads to serious deterioration of picture quality (to put simply).

 

For additional information on picture quality loss due to long video cable, read up the gurus' postings at AVSForum. :)

[quekky]

I also think u should use a longer digital coax then video cable. reason being video cable is more ex and long video might cause more interference....

 

I think the 1695A should be good enough. Ask LHS to terminate for u the canare 75ohm RCA plugs.

 

 

or u may shift the amp to the right of your speaker to reduce the length of the cable (but more speaker cables)

[htfreak]

How about locating your Amp at the location where you are putting your DVD player. I would think that speaker cables are more tolerant on a longer length compared to co-axial cables for either video or audio.

[Guest duckling]

How about locating your Amp at the location where you are putting your DVD player. I would think that speaker cables are more tolerant on a longer length compared to co-axial cables for either video or audio.

 

I will leave the Amp at where the plan is...placing the Amp at where the DVD is would mean longer speaker cable. I am using Ecosse Reference MS2.3, it will cost me the price of a projector to have them lengthen. Had tried down-grading of cable...just couldn't take it...I still love my Ecosse.

 

As for quekky's solution of placing the Amp to the side - looks pretty odd...will still place as planned.

 

I might just switch the place of the 2 seater sofa with the DVD Rack cos' the SCV point is behind the 2 seater sofa...might be using SCV decoder to link up projector for TV Programmes. Then again, I'll need cables to link from SCV decoder to Amp to have sound!!

[quekky]

I might just switch the place of the 2 seater sofa with the DVD Rack cos' the SCV point is behind the 2 seater sofa...might be using SCV decoder to link up projector for TV Programmes. Then again, I'll need cables to link from SCV decoder to Amp to have sound!!

that 1 use cheap cables will do loh..... depends on your pocket

[limos]

Hi duckling

 

May I suggest long vga cable since you love your Ecosse Reference MS2.3 so much.

 

I am presently using 15m vga cable connected to my 700nf while typing this message. Video quality is as good as the default vga cable supplied by Samsung. When I use this 15m vga cable for the first time, there was some flicker. 2nd day flicker was gone. Now is the 4th day and I am very happy with it. (hmm.. I did not know vga cable need to burt-in too ??? )

 

Next will be connecting the 15m vga cable from dvdp to ae100. Will let you know how is the video quality if you want me to follow up.

 

15m vga cable bought for $35 at SLS 6th flr. Cheap and good. Worth a try first. If you dont like it, go for long audio cable.

[Guest jonlee]

I'm also using a long 1695A (about 8m) between my dvdp and av receiver, terminated with canare 75ohm RCAs from SLS. Sounds ok to me.

[Guest duckling]

Hi duckling

 

May I suggest long vga cable since you love your Ecosse Reference MS2.3 so much.

 

I am presently using 15m vga cable connected to my 700nf while typing this message. Video quality is as good as the default vga cable supplied by Samsung. When I use this 15m vga cable for the first time, there was some flicker. 2nd day flicker was gone. Now is the 4th day and I am very happy with it. (hmm.. I did not know vga cable need to burt-in too ??? )

 

Next will be connecting the 15m vga cable from dvdp to ae100. Will let you know how is the video quality if you want me to follow up.

 

15m vga cable bought for $35 at SLS 6th flr. Cheap and good. Worth a try first. If you dont like it, go for long audio cable.

 

Hi Richard,

 

you had misinterpreted my question. I was actually asking to choose between long Digital Coax or Long VGA Video Cable - there's nothing abt speaker cables here.

 

Quekky was suggesting to me on moving the AV Amp nearer to the DVD-P which would mean long speaker cables.

 

Maybe, you'll like to refer to the plan for better understandings.

 

Anyway, thanks ALL of you for contributing to the ideas.

[Phil1624705739]

Hi Ducky.. goin PJ hah.. gd 4 u...

 

On ya original Q... I think audio will be better than video.. on e cost ground

 

My suggestion 4 u is....

 

To position ya DVDP together /w ya AV Amp... then have a run of VGA cable behind ya screen & along e center of ya ceiling.

 

U c.. 4 ya current plan... e video cable will still need 2 run along ya side wall up to e ceiling.. so that 1 u can't avoid.. e oni saving on length is e distance from e side wall 2 ya PJ. Difference in ya & my suggestion should be abt 1 or 2m if ya drawing is to scale.

 

E advantages r

 

1. Ya VGA wall cabling r concealed by e screen

2. U can use ya current branded digital coax cable.

3. Equipment r located @ samelocation.. neater IMHO.

 

Phil

 

 

 

[limos]

Hi duckling

 

Sorry, my typing mistake. I should have said keep all your expensive audio cables and go for LONGER vga cable.

 

Dont worry about pic quality being degraded. If you have read avsforum, there are many people running about 40ft to 50ft of vga cable without complain of pic distortion. How long the vga cable is your call. Of coz the shorter the better. FYI, I am testing my 15m low voltage vga cable from 8700PS to AE100 now and I am very happy with it coz there is no distortion, flicker or degraded pic.

 

As what phil said, keeping your av amp + dvdp close together looks neater, you get to keep your current expensive audio cables.

[Guest duckling]

Hi duckling

 

Sorry, my typing mistake. I should have said keep all your expensive audio cables and go for LONGER vga cable.

 

Dont worry about pic quality being degraded. If you have read avsforum, there are many people running about 40ft to 50ft of vga cable without complain of pic distortion. How long the vga cable is your call. Of coz the shorter the better. FYI, I am testing my 15m low voltage vga cable from 8700PS to AE100 now and I am very happy with it coz there is no distortion, flicker or degraded pic.

 

As what phil said, keeping your av amp + dvdp close together looks neater, you get to keep your current expensive audio cables.

 

If I put my DVD Player together with my AV Amp, the VGA cable will have to run about 10 meters.

 

Anyone here can guide me whether it's alright at 10 meter?

[doogie]

If you like this solution, why don't you borrow a long VGA cable from a kind soul ::) here and try it out first - don't try don't know....

[limos]

How right it is.. no try 0% percent.. try.. 50% :)

 

duckling, Meico Lotus at SLS 6th flr is where I got my 15m low voltage vga cable @ $35. Their next shorter vga cable is 10m. I need 13m (40ft) but they dont have thus end up with 15m. Btw, avfan got his 10m vga cable for $30 at ISTM also at SLS 6th flr.

 

Try it and tell us how you find it. If you really want good branded vga cable available, you might like to try Caxtron cables. 35ft is US$96 15ft is US$114 (i think). I dont know how good is their cables thus no comment.

 

Dealers for Caxtron cables:

PAVE System

Tel: 63448086

Fax: 63446808

 

Bilcon Technology

Tel: 64668344

Fax: 64669344

 

Domus Integration

Tel: 62381711

Fax: 62354451

[Guest duckling]

How right it is.. no try 0% percent.. try.. 50% :)

 

duckling, Meico Lotus at SLS 6th flr is where I got my 15m low voltage vga cable @ $35. Their next shorter vga cable is 10m. I need 13m (40ft) but they dont have thus end up with 15m. Btw, avfan got his 10m vga cable for $30 at ISTM also at SLS 6th flr.

 

Try it and tell us how you find it. If you really want good branded vga cable available, you might like to try Caxtron cables. 35ft is US$96 15ft is US$114 (i think). I dont know how good is their cables thus no comment.

 

Dealers for Caxtron cables:

PAVE System

Tel: 63448086

Fax: 63446808

 

Bilcon Technology

Tel: 64668344

Fax: 64669344

 

Domus Integration

Tel: 62381711

Fax: 62354451

 

I will go for Canare L-5CFB, 75ohms Serial Digital Video Coaxial Cable - not sure if it is low voltage. Have to get someone to terminate with VGA connectiong.

 

I am also looking into HTPC....can someone recommend a CPU and motherboard to start with? For graphic card, shld be going to ATI Radeon 7200 64MB DDR SDRAM.

[limos]

I will go for Canare L-5CFB, 75ohms Serial Digital Video Coaxial Cable - not sure if it is low voltage. Have to get someone to terminate with VGA connectiong.

 

Hmmm.. interesting. I am wondering how are you going to terminate L-5CFB with HD15 (vga) connectors.

 

 

Unless you mean BNC, F or RCA connectors?

 

Or do you mean Canare V5-4CFB multichannel 75ohm digital video coax cable since you are going for HTPC and that you are making a 5BNC - VGA (HD-15) cable?

 

Please correct me if I am wrong.

[quekky]

I am also looking into HTPC....can someone recommend a CPU and motherboard to start with? For graphic card, shld be going to ATI Radeon 7200 64MB DDR SDRAM.

i looking at P3 as it can be quite queit. or u wanna use VIA cpu as they no need fan