Zeppelin1624705755 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 I just bought a DVD player with built in Dolby & DTS Decoder it got 5.1 channel analog output and was wondering how am I gonna control the Master volume if I connect it to a multi channel amp.
pschia Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Using the volume control on the amp of course. There's no volume control on the dvd player.
Whazzup Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 juz to tag on, when a dvd player says got DD, DTS decoder, DEFINITELY muz mean tat got 5.1 ch analogue output rite? or izzit possible to have DTS decoder n only 2 ch analogue output? (digital outputs like coaxial n optical oni serves to pass thru still encoded signals oni correct?)
pschia Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Most dvd players that I came across which have both DD/DTS decoders tended to have 5.1 ch analog outputs. 5.1 ch analog outputs are meant for those users who have purely 5.1 ch analog receivers/amps. Theoretically, it is still possible to have a player with DTS decoder to have only 2 ch analog audio outputs. It is possible to down mix the 6 channels of digital surround sound to 2 ch analog output signals but I believe that both the dvd player and the receiver/amp must have compatible surround sound system eg. TruSurround, for this to work properly. Digital outputs can carry either undecoded (RAW) DD/DTS signals or decoded DD/DTS signals depending on the user's setting in the player's SETUP menu audio output options. Such signals are to be sent to receivers/amps with digital multi-channel sound decoders and without digital multi-channel sound decoders respectively. They could also be switched off for receivers/amps with analog audio inputs only.
pcking1624705747 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Correct me if I am wrong. I thought coaxial n optical digital outputs only carry encoded DDS/DTS signals ? Once these signals get decoded, the signals becomes different channels of analogue signals.
pschia Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 The option to decode or not to decode is user selectable in the audio output sub-menu of the dvd player's SETUP menu. This is because there are digital amps available that still do not have DD or DTS or both decoders. Those amps that have both DD/DTS decoders can take the raw digital signals and decode them within the amps themselves and this is usually the preferred mode I gathered for such amps.
Zeppelin1624705755 Posted November 11, 2002 Author Posted November 11, 2002 It still does not answer my question. Here it is the player got 5 analog output and 1 sub analog output(Left, right, centre, surroundLeft, SurroundRight and Subwoofer). 1 digital coax and 1 digital optical. If I connect it directly to a 5 Channel Power amp( what i mean in a Power amp is that you need a PreAmp to control the volume and a PreAmp does not exist right now only the multi channel PowerAmp) how am I suppose to control all the 5 channel volume?
pschia Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 You need to be more specific about your equipment models if you want more specific answers to your questions. Most of the commonly available digital receiver/amps in the market are all-in-one type and do not require a pre-amp. If yours is a power amp, you obviously must get a pre-amp if you want to have volume control. I'm no expert in Hi-Fi set-ups but as far as I know, power amps are not meant to be used on their own. Any comments from Hi-Fi gurus ?
c7221624705751 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 If I connect it directly to a 5 Channel Power amp( what i mean in a Power amp is that you need a PreAmp to control the volume and a PreAmp does not exist right now only the multi channel PowerAmp) how am I suppose to control all the 5 channel volume? I think the dvd 5 channel out always needs preamp. so u cannot connect them to a 5 channel amp. U definitely need a 5 channel preamp. I understand ur problem: yes you will then have to control the volume individually.
Jag Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 the 5-channel from dvd must be connected to a AV reciever or pre-amp, not directly to a poweramp. :D
Phil1624705739 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 the 5-channel from dvd must be connected to a AV reciever or pre-amp, not directly to a poweramp. :D Jag.. why is that so?? If the DVDP comes /w volume control 4 e 5.1 out.. then it can be directly connected 2 a poweramp izzit? Phil
Jag Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 If dvdp got volume control, then can direct go to poweramp. The technicality is how to control volume. :D
c7221624705751 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 If dvdp got volume control, then can direct go to poweramp. The technicality is how to control volume. :D ??? dvdp got volume control one meh ? ..
Jag Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 hehehe, thats the technicality. Technically, DVDPs don't have volume control. But the market has so many DVDP mutations into HTiB that its possible to find dvdps in HTiB clothing. ;)
Phil1624705739 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 ??? dvdp got volume control one meh ? .. Oh ya... e old Samsung M108 comes /w volume control on e remote.. juz like e Marantz CDP Phil
Whazzup Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Most dvd players that I came across which have both DD/DTS decoders tended to have 5.1 ch analog outputs. 5.1 ch analog outputs are meant for those users who have purely 5.1 ch analog receivers/amps. Theoretically, it is still possible to have a player with DTS decoder to have only 2 ch analog audio outputs. It is possible to down mix the 6 channels of digital surround sound to 2 ch analog output signals but I believe that both the dvd player and the receiver/amp must have compatible surround sound system eg. TruSurround, for this to work properly. Digital outputs can carry either undecoded (RAW) DD/DTS signals or decoded DD/DTS signals depending on the user's setting in the player's SETUP menu audio output options. Such signals are to be sent to receivers/amps with digital multi-channel sound decoders and without digital multi-channel sound decoders respectively. They could also be switched off for receivers/amps with analog audio inputs only. hmm, so if i have a DD only receiver (w/ coaxial/optical inputs) and a dvdp w/ DTS decoder, i can actually decode the DTS stream in the dvdp, pass it out thru the optical out to the receiver and get DTS audio???? if the above is true, then it seems i'm wrong all this while.... :o
Zeppelin1624705755 Posted November 11, 2002 Author Posted November 11, 2002 Ok thanks everybody. Yeah my DVDp needs a 5.1 input pre amp to do that. What a lame player.
pschia Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 if the above is true, then it seems i'm wrong all this while.... :o Must be true since I got the explanation above from the user's manual of my Philips DVDR 890.
c7221624705751 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Ok thanks everybody. Yeah my DVDp needs a 5.1 input pre amp to do that. What a lame player. :) dun blame the dvdp lah ... u got a 5 channle power amp already .. get a multi channel pre-amp should be no issue right ? u know I can bet most ppl here only use integrated receiver to drive the HT. A decent yamaha receiver cost less than ur multi-ch amp I guess...
ericcartman Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 just buy a 5.1 channel speaker system with a powered sub-woofer. then you can hook it up directly from from dvd player without getting a preamp. all this for less than 200 yep, my friend also selling this. any of you guys interested? :D
Guest duckling Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 just buy a 5.1 channel speaker system with a powered sub-woofer. then you can hook it up directly from from dvd player without getting a preamp. all this for less than 200 yep, my friend also selling this. any of you guys interested? :D Hi ericcartman, seems like your friend sell a lot of stuffs...DVD-P, HTS, Plasma...are they brand new or used?
domj Posted November 12, 2002 Posted November 12, 2002 hmm, so if i have a DD only receiver (w/ coaxial/optical inputs) and a dvdp w/ DTS decoder, i can actually decode the DTS stream in the dvdp, pass it out thru the optical out to the receiver and get DTS audio???? if the above is true, then it seems i'm wrong all this while.... :o If this can be done, can the DD only receiver perform the neccessary bass management duties for the DTS soundtrack input from the dvdp?
Whazzup Posted November 12, 2002 Posted November 12, 2002 hmm, so if i have a DD only receiver (w/ coaxial/optical inputs) and a dvdp w/ DTS decoder, i can actually decode the DTS stream in the dvdp, pass it out thru the optical out to the receiver and get DTS audio???? if the above is true, then it seems i'm wrong all this while.... :o If this can be done, can the DD only receiver perform the neccessary bass management duties for the DTS soundtrack input from the dvdp? anyone living around Jurong West Extension got a dvdp w/ DTS decoder onboard and willing to let me try on my receiver?? ;D
Phil1624705739 Posted November 12, 2002 Posted November 12, 2002 hmm, so if i have a DD only receiver (w/ coaxial/optical inputs) and a dvdp w/ DTS decoder, i can actually decode the DTS stream in the dvdp, pass it out thru the optical out to the receiver and get DTS audio???? if the above is true, then it seems i'm wrong all this while.... :o If this can be done, can the DD only receiver perform the neccessary bass management duties for the DTS soundtrack input from the dvdp? I dun think so since e .1 channel is already supplied 2 e receiver.. e bass management is normally handled in e decoder. Phil
spider1624705740 Posted November 12, 2002 Posted November 12, 2002 just buy a 5.1 channel speaker system with a powered sub-woofer. then you can hook it up directly from from dvd player without getting a preamp. all this for less than 200 yep, my friend also selling this. any of you guys interested? :D may i know what model is it ? less then 200 !! u mean those Creative one ??
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