Marantz AV Owners Thread

[betty boop]

gene at audioholics has finished bench testing the amp10 power amp that pairs the av10 processor... he has high praise how well it has measured... I am not surprised.  i have been very pleased myself in the fuss free nature of this amp, that doesn't seem to break a sweat.. marantz has taken a very good approach with using 8 pairs from their top of line stereo power amps from this 16 channel beast ....making for a very refined, controlled, clean and clear with superb dynamics....definitely an ideal pair to the av10 processor...

 

https://www.audioholics.com/amplifier-reviews/marantz-amp-10-test-report

 

"Summary

The Marantz Amp 10 produced mostly excellent results on my test bench. I commend the company for thinking outside the box and offering a high power, high channel count, and high efficiency amplifier that is exactly the type of product needed for today’s Immersive Audio systems. The fact that you can bridge the unused channels to provide a shot of adrenaline to your front LCR channels is a nice touch. My initial listening impressions have been favorable in such a configuration, which I plan on covering more in my formal review. Marantz’s closest competitors in this space include the more costly 16CH Storm Audio and Trinnov amplifiers. Storm Audio uses the Pascal Class D amplifier modules with a very large 3,200-watt power supply and Trinnov uses a similar ICE Edge Class D but with 2 power supplies and inlets. Yes, those amplifiers have more dynamic power on reserve, and more power capability especially in bridged mode (Trinnov), but they will cost you significantly more than the Amp 10. The Marantz Amp 10 should deliver ample clean, noise-free power for most upscale 9.1.6 home theater speaker layouts. You certainly can’t find a less expensive, better crafted, single box solution that will give you quality amplification for up to 16 channels. I hope this product is a success for Marantz so it inspires the brand to adopt Class D amplification in their AV receiver line."

[DonGreen]

Dolby Audio - Dolby Digital Plus on SR6015

 

My centre channel is not working on many streaming platforms on Dolby Audio. It works fine on Netflix, Prime and Disney+ that show 5.1, DA or Dolby Atmos audio.

 

There is now no centre channel on Dolby Audio content on many sources including iView, SBS On Demand, 7Plus,  YouTube, Plex and Tubi. However 9Now seems ok, but I don't watch that.

 

It's mainly the Plex and Tubi that are a problem, as the movies have obviously been mixed with a centre channel, and it's not audible, so a lot of dialogue is missing. I check with the iOS Marantz app TH Audio Output screen The Centre channel is always inactive on the platforms with the issue.

 

Source is eArc from a Sony A85K OLED.

 

I don''t think this is a receiver issue, but can't find any discussions on Dolby Audio 5.1

[Grant Slack]

32 minutes ago, DonGreen said:

It's mainly the Plex and Tubi that are a problem, as the movies have obviously been mixed with a centre channel, and it's not audible, so a lot of dialogue is missing.

Hi Don,

 

Perhaps give them some feedback on this issue?

 

cheers

Grant

[DonGreen]

44 minutes ago, Grant Slack said:

 

Perhaps give them some feedback on this issue?

 

I will follow up with Plex and Tubi, but even on iView live News Channel 24, as well as SBS On Demand, voices seem a lot clearer on the TV speakers, and quite muddy through the 6015 with the mobile app still showing the center channel inactive.

 

I thought maybe I had the wrong sound mode selected on the app, but selecting Movie, Music or Direct makes no difference to the clarity of the dialogue via the AVR.

Edited June 3, 2023 by DonGreen
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[betty boop]

anyone know what  happened to the marantz aV10 thread here? seems to have vanished off face of the earth  

 

oh well thread or no thread my av10 is going strong. not one issue. pretty happy gets used day in day out whether tv or movies.... we really enjoyed recently going through some star wars movies.. Rogue one was an absolute blast and has taken us back to some of the earliest movies that have a new lease of life on 4k uhd blu-ray.

 

did chuck Atomic blonde 4k uhd blu-ray on the other day out of interest, see what that was like as been a while since watched it. 

 

 

 

and it sure "Packs one hell of a punch" as it says on the cover  lovely atomos track. very detailed. good steering of effects... beautiful sound and music track ! one well worth giving a spin on the marantz  

 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, betty boop said:

anyone know what  happened to the marantz aV10 thread here? seems to have vanished off face of the earth  

Someone in their wisdom decided to consolidate all things Marantz into 1 gigantic owners thread.    Soon, we will not have any specific equipment thread, only super long brand threads, making it impossible to find and discuss gear of a brand.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Snoopy8
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[betty boop]

9 minutes ago, Snoopy8 said:

Someone in their wisdom decided to consolidate all things Marantz into 1 gigantic owners thread.    Soon, we will not have any specific equipment thread, only super long brand threads, making it impossible to find and discuss gear of a brand.

 

oh wow thats crazy ! 

 

@Marc is this for real ? must be only forum on the planet without  specific equipment threads. Other forums seem to have marantz av10/amp10 threads ? this would be only one without i can think off. seems a real odd choice if the case ? I agree too it makes for super long threads and indeed impossible to find and discuss stuff specific to equipment.

 

i suppose now its been done cant be undone either ! 

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by betty boop

[jdh500]

2 minutes ago, betty boop said:

oh wow thats crazy ! 

Yep, have to agree, when a piece of hifi gear has pages of dedicated posts, it seems silly to role it all together. Maybe when the equipment is superseded maybe then archive it.

 

JDH 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, betty boop said:

oh wow thats crazy ! 

It is the trend in SNA.

 

I was very annoyed when my information rich Innuos Phoenix thread was subsumed into the Innuos Owners thread.  Will not bother to do any more posts like that...

[Kdjjdk Will]

Bring back DTVforum

[betty boop]

courtesy of cwt in another thread... yes both multisub capability for dirac and ART is coming for the marantz units cinema 40/50 and AV10 and in 2024 it seems. in the mean time will continue to use  audyssey for EQ and multi sub as already has that capability now...

 

[betty boop]

from avs forum/hifi forum.de

 

For those interested in Dirac

According to a member of hifi-forum.de who had a conversation with Mr. Krüge (the chap with the ponytail in Massimo Training Youtube videos)
Dirac Live Bass Control is scheduled for November
Dirac ART is scheduled for the first half of 2024
Denon 2022 AVR S970H /X-2800H/ X-3800H /X-4800 / A1H, Denon - HIFI-FORUM (page 72) post 3593

http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-269-10510-72.html

[CCRider]

16 hours ago, betty boop said:

from avs forum/hifi forum.de

 

For those interested in Dirac

According to a member of hifi-forum.de who had a conversation with Mr. Krüge (the chap with the ponytail in Massimo Training Youtube videos)
Dirac Live Bass Control is scheduled for November
Dirac ART is scheduled for the first half of 2024
Denon 2022 AVR S970H /X-2800H/ X-3800H /X-4800 / A1H, Denon - HIFI-FORUM (page 72) post 3593

http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-269-10510-72.html

That’s great news Al.

The ART is  a real game changer for those of us who haven’t got the best acoustics in our listening areas and because of WAF can’t put acoustic panels all over our living rooms.

ART is something that is normally attributed to the Storm Audio highly  priced market.

Yes we have to pay to get this but still cheaper than forking out the big coin to attain the Storm product.

@Franin has actually used it with his Storm Audio processor and can’t believe the difference it has made to his home theatre experience.
That says a lot as Franin is what I consider a Connoisseur when it comes to HT sound. 

I am looking forward to getting this and rest of the Dirac Suite   for my new AV10 

PS loving my new AV10 . Can’t believe how much better it is than my 8805 on all levels.

Also I am in awe of the way it brings sound nuances in the typical movie demo scenes to a higher level.

As described in your review and the technical review on Audioholics imho it is the best bang for buck 19 channel AVP on the market.

Also love the build quality as I did with the 8801 and 8805  but this is a step up on a quantum level.

And  just like the fore mentioned models  everything just works. And I mean everything works

 

 

 

 

Edited September 10, 2023 by CCRider

[betty boop]

12 hours ago, CCRider said:

PS loving my new AV10 . Can’t believe how much better it is than my 8805 on all levels.

 

great you are enjoying CC  its a beautiful piece glad you are savouring what can bring forth.

 

12 hours ago, CCRider said:

The ART is  a real game changer for those of us who haven’t got the best acoustics in our listening areas and because of WAF can’t put acoustic panels all over our living rooms.

ART is something that is normally attributed to the Storm Audio highly  priced market.

am keen to check out too..i have the mic at handy and will be pushing the envelop with full 19 channels for it to calibrate and make best off. 

 

I love the unique nature of marantz that can leave the audyssey calibration(which is doing an amazing job) on a pre set and compare with art on another preset - so will be very easy to gauge the proficiency between the two eq schemes

 

bring it on  

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, betty boop said:

am keen to check out too..

Have you changed your mind about Dirac?  And willing to pay what is likely to be more than US$1k for the ART licence? 

[betty boop]

22 minutes ago, Snoopy8 said:

Have you changed your mind about Dirac?  And willing to pay what is likely to be more than US$1k for the ART licence? 

 

oh i havent changed my mind on Dirac, i'll be keen to check it out when it is good and ready .. no plans to be a beta tester   so wont be one to jump straight in.. happy to see others experience first  as per CC above the marantz is faultless in use, so see no reason to spoil that experience if rushing in early and its half baked or something  i am totally enjoying it as it is, so no rush !  they can take their time to get it right. 

 

re cost ...yep definitely baulk at it ... realise it will not be cheap... i know that... always knew its an add on and up there....and prepared for it... and its definitely a money tree for dirac... no question and realise its not going to be for everyone especially on the cheaper avrs when adds so much to cost. But when invest in something like the marantz AV10 here, i think its a step well worth exploring ...as long as its a step forward  which time will tell.

Edited September 10, 2023 by betty boop

[CCRider]

I am fairly confident that

Marantz and Denon  will not rush it.

They will do their  own in-house testing similar to what Toyota do before releasing to market.
However I will see how it fairs with other users before I pull the trigger.

As a side note I recall Gene Dellasalla from Audioholics who interviewed 

a well known reviewer who went to Masimo for the product launch of the new Cinema series Marantz.

He told Gene that over 100  Marantz and Denon engineers were responsible for the new 8k HDMI board in the series.

Gene had a look at the HDMI board and commented how well it looked 

and it makes the current HDMI boards in the Trinnov and Storm Audio look under whelming.

 

[blybo]

2 hours ago, betty boop said:

oh i havent changed my mind on Dirac, i'll be keen to check it out when it is good and ready .. no plans to be a beta tester   so wont be one to jump straight in.. happy to see others experience first

 

Dirac has been faultless for me, apart from having to a proper power cycle (as in actually removing power cable) to get the filters to save in my Marantz Cinema 50 initially. Since then no issues.

 

I will do a new calibration shortly as I've changed speaker placement slightly as well as adding Vinyl display shelves and a couple of framed movie posters. At the same time I'll get around to doing an Audyssey calibration as well.

 

Only thing I've noticed with my 7.2.4 set up is how much more effects volume I get from my Panasonic UB9000 playing discs compared to streaming from my Apple TV 4k.

[betty boop]

12 minutes ago, blybo said:

Dirac has been faultless for me, apart from having to a proper power cycle (as in actually removing power cable) to get the filters to save in my Marantz Cinema 50 initially. Since then no issues.

 

good to hear blybo. i have seen folks with issues with even the basic version, some are awaiting fix. I am waiting  for ART and DLBC and making sure its bug free before the leap  

 

14 minutes ago, blybo said:

I will do a new calibration shortly as I've changed speaker placement slightly as well as adding Vinyl display shelves and a couple of framed movie posters. At the same time I'll get around to doing an Audyssey calibration as well.

 

Only thing I've noticed with my 7.2.4 set up is how much more effects volume I get from my Panasonic UB9000 playing discs compared to streaming from my Apple TV 4k.

 

good stuff  the other thing is it lacks audyssey low level listening capability which we some times use ... and pretty handy  

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, blybo said:

Only thing I've noticed with my 7.2.4 set up is how much more effects volume I get from my Panasonic UB9000 playing discs compared to streaming from my Apple TV 4k.

Streaming uses Dolby Digital Plus for Atmos, typically encoded at bitrates between 384 and 768 kbps. The UB9000 outputs Dolby TrueHD for Atmos, bitrates average around 6,000 kbps.  You can hear the difference if you compare them side by side.

 

[blybo]

1 hour ago, betty boop said:

I am waiting  for ART and DLBC and making sure its bug free before the leap

I already have DLBC but only utilising 2 subs... for now.

[blybo]

1 hour ago, Snoopy8 said:

Streaming uses Dolby Digital Plus for Atmos, typically encoded at bitrates between 384 and 768 kbps. The UB9000 outputs Dolby TrueHD for Atmos, bitrates average around 6,000 kbps.  You can hear the difference if you compare them side by side.

 

It's night and day, but I don't see why bitrates should effect volumes of different channels differently. Clarity and roll off, yes I could understand

[Guest]

1 minute ago, blybo said:

It's night and day, but I don't see why bitrates should effect volumes of different channels differently. Clarity and roll off, yes I could understand

Streaming is likely allocating more bit rate to the bed channels than the ceiling channels, and also likely less volume.  I say likely, because I have not found anything definitive..

 

Also, I assume you have checked the settings of both the Pana and AppleTV Inputs; that they have the same speaker gains and that they are using the the Dirac profile?

[betty boop]

4 minutes ago, blybo said:

I already have DLBC but only utilising 2 subs... for now.

might see the note above (re quoted below) will see dlbc is schedule for November …this is for Denon, marantz usually follows same time lines …

 

I want to try 4 subs …

 

22 hours ago, betty boop said:

For those interested in Dirac

According to a member of hifi-forum.de who had a conversation with Mr. Krüge (the chap with the ponytail in Massimo Training Youtube videos)
Dirac Live Bass Control is scheduled for November
Dirac ART is scheduled for the first half of 2024
Denon 2022 AVR S970H /X-2800H/ X-3800H /X-4800 / A1H, Denon - HIFI-FORUM (page 72) post 3593

http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-269-10510-72.html

 

 

[Guest]

On 01/07/2023 at 5:52 PM, Snoopy8 said:

Someone in their wisdom decided to consolidate all things Marantz into 1 gigantic owners thread.    Soon, we will not have any specific equipment thread, only super long brand threads, making it impossible to find and discuss gear of a brand.

 

I am/was not aware of this. 

 

On 01/07/2023 at 6:01 PM, betty boop said:

 

oh wow thats crazy ! 

 

@Marc is this for real ? must be only forum on the planet without  specific equipment threads. Other forums seem to have marantz av10/amp10 threads ? this would be only one without i can think off. seems a real odd choice if the case ? I agree too it makes for super long threads and indeed impossible to find and discuss stuff specific to equipment.

 

i suppose now its been done cant be undone either ! 

 

 

Purely because of the number of notifications I get per day, I generally won't see tags (like this one) so best to report a post / or open a support thread if you want to bring something to my attention.

 

On 01/07/2023 at 6:06 PM, jdh500 said:

Yep, have to agree, when a piece of hifi gear has pages of dedicated posts, it seems silly to role it all together. Maybe when the equipment is superseded maybe then archive it.

 

JDH 

 

Generally we would only do this on OLD products as you suggest, and that makes total sense. 
If we did in fact do this for a current product, then it was absolutely in error and not intended. There is no reason for us to archive or merge an active and current product thread. You realise we do want this place to prosper and attract readers too - not the opposite.

 

On 02/07/2023 at 2:21 AM, Kdjjdk Will said:

Bring back DTVforum

 

We did, it was dead, remember? I paid to retrieve all that content and keep it active here on StereoNET before the site was turned off forever.

I'm happy with someone's assistance to try and weed out the AV10 content and put it back into a relevant thread if one of you wants to start a new one.