Marantz AV Owners Thread

[CCRider]

1 hour ago, RCADees said:

Just got home my Cinema 40, so exciting! 

This is certainly a sexy beast! 

 

Funny thing is, the old AVR went out and this one just replaced it on the same spot. 

Do you think that she who must be obeyed has even noticed yet? 

 

I suppose next time she has a go at you when she cuts and styles her hair and you have not noticed it you can reveal the new beast and let her know she does it to.

[CCRider]

6 hours ago, betty boop said:

a live stream coming in a weeks time of some denon and marantz updates coming.... this is with gene from audioholis hosting Phil from massimo...

 

 

Join us next Thursday, December 14th, 2023 at 8pm EDT when we livestream with Phil Jones of Masimo to discuss BIG feature updates to Denon and Marantz products. If you are serious about room correction and advanced streaming, you will want to be glued to this livestream announcement. There will be time to ask questions as well.

 

This is something I have made a reminder on my phone not to miss.

Love it when Phil and Gene get together. I am going to enjoy my cup of coffee watching and listening to what goodness these two guys are bringing to the table. 

However no prizes for guessing.

[jdh500]

21 hours ago, RCADees said:

Do you think that she who must be obeyed has even noticed yet? 

my wife didn’t notice the difference between the AV 8802A and AV 8805A or various iterations of Elektra Amps  that being said I did indicate I was upgrading my system, never bothered asking me about the cost but it was assumed it was not cheap !!!
 

JDH

[betty boop]

interesting comment from bassadict on avs.. i guess the av10 is one processor that can run both audyssey and dirac to explore this kind of thing for self to decide which you prefer ....

 

Having now used both extensively; I personally prefer Aud X to Dirac (for the aforementioned reasons). Aud X gives more control over individual drivers (more specifically subs), and provides more options for tweaking of FR. I hate the fact that DLBC locks subs down to groups, which actually makes integrating different subs tougher due to Dirac filtering on the average.

I would spend the $200 and play around with Aud X. I think you'll really like it.

[CCRider]

7 hours ago, betty boop said:

interesting comment from bassadict on avs.. i guess the av10 is one processor that can run both audyssey and dirac to explore this kind of thing for self to decide which you prefer ....

 

Having now used both extensively; I personally prefer Aud X to Dirac (for the aforementioned reasons). Aud X gives more control over individual drivers (more specifically subs), and provides more options for tweaking of FR. I hate the fact that DLBC locks subs down to groups, which actually makes integrating different subs tougher due to Dirac filtering on the average.

I would spend the $200 and play around with Aud X. I think you'll really like it.

I have read the same from other members on OS forums. 

There is a consensus that Audyssey is a more "in your face " type sound whilst they say Dirac tends to tame and refine the dynamic sounds.

I'm an "in your face" type of guy.

However being able to switch between the two with the AV10 is going to be interesting.

I recently bought the Aud.X on black Friday sale for my AV10. I haven't used it as yet but will once I get a breather from my so called "retirement life style".

I have more things on now I am fully retired than when working full time.

I will also be buying the full Dirac suite and make a comparison to which sounds best to my ears.

I still have Audyssey pro kit so have the "good mic" to use for the calibration.

I have already bought the Umik mic in anticipation.

Edited December 9, 2023 by CCRider

[betty boop]

yep picked up both mic for dirac and audyssey X ...plan to check both out... do love that we have the option of both...

[betty boop]

Presumably folks got the Dirac email with 30% off dlbc for marantz av10 and am sure other marantz as well

 

[betty boop]

and we get the 30% offer as well...

 

 

Exclusive Launch Offer – 30% off Bass Control

We have some exciting news: Marantz’s latest firmware update adds Dirac Live Bass Control support to your AV 10.

 

Dirac Live Bass Control optimizes subwoofers using machine learning, solving bass management issues for a smoother, even distribution in any listening space, regardless of subwoofer placement.

 

Don’t miss out - use the promo code 30BCDM23 to get a 30% discount on your Bass Control license from the link below. 

Get 30% off Dirac Live –

Bass Control for Marantz AV 10

Simply use the promo code: 

30BCDM23

[blybo]

I bought my licence 5 minutes ago. I’ll have to connect my 3rd sub and hopefully get time to run calibration again. We are hosting 22 of my wife’s family tomorrow for a Christmas party so time is tight 

[RCADees]

12 hours ago, betty boop said:

and am sure other marantz as well

Just checked and the 30% off is also for the Marantz Cinema 50 and 40.

I wish I had some more cash at the moment. Does anyone know when the promo will expire?

[blybo]

37 minutes ago, RCADees said:

Just checked and the 30% off is also for the Marantz Cinema 50 and 40.

I wish I had some more cash at the moment. Does anyone know when the promo will expire?

I don't, but I used the paypal 4 equal payments to lessen the load. My CC is close to max'ed out with Christmas purchases and payment is due in a few days, so at least the remaining 3 payments will go over 2 months for me.

 

I bought the license for the 50 with 30% off. The 4 payments work out at about $120 each. Not cheap but I've heard very good things about DLBC. I'm planning on keeping my current set up for a long time, so I don't mind the cost, even though probably hard to justify. You'd think with significantly cheaper prices they would get a much higher sign up rate and still end up in front.

[RCADees]

12 minutes ago, blybo said:

My CC is close to max'ed out with Christmas purchases and payment is due in a few days,

Thanks Neil, yes it is a lot of money for this time of the year! Hard to justify right now.

 

I have to say that the jump I've experienced from my old Yamaha  RX-A1040 to this Marantz Cinema 40 has been phenomenal and I've only had this for one week.

It really was worth the stretch and to pay more for such quality machine!

 

This really is a massive step up for my set up and I have been blown away by how big the change has been.

We watched Gladiator on blu ray a few days ago and for the first time I am getting a phantom image on the sides, in between the Front LR and the surrounds LR in my 5.1 set up. It is absolutely amazing. The level of detail is also so good and the room really feels now like in surround. Sounds are everywhere. The weight of the drums in the soundtrack and Spanish guitar.... Wow. The centre channel is so much cleaner than before. And the headroom, wow, that machine can keep on going without a sweat. My old Yamaha felt like it was lacking power, lots of it.

Although the Centre speaker is the same brand as FLR, it always sounded like it had a different timbre. But not anymore.

 

A few months ago I moved the sub and I always felt it was never the same for some reason despite the fact that I did try a few things. It never sounded as powerful and somehow ok but disappointing. Once again all of that is gone and once again all I have to say is WOW.

Can't wait to begin installing Atmos speakers at some point

 

And I have only done the standard Audyssey calibration out of the box, nothing more yet. The future looks fun.

[CCRider]

16 hours ago, betty boop said:

Presumably folks got the Dirac email with 30% off dlbc for marantz av10 and am sure other marantz as well

 

I have checked my email and no message as yet.

Feel ignored

 

.....a few moments later.....

 

Just bought full bundle plus Bass Control multi subs with 30% off.

Make sure use code 30BCDM23 under vouchers @ checkout to get your discount.

For those who didn't get email here is the link below

https://www.dirac.com/online-store/marantz-av-10/

Edited December 15, 2023 by CCRider

[betty boop]

4 hours ago, blybo said:

don't, but I used the paypal 4 equal payments to lessen the load. My CC is close to max'ed out with Christmas purchases and payment is due in a few days, so at least the remaining 3 payments will go over 2 months for me.

 

its a lot of cash really... i took one look at the aud price and had to do a double take.. i did buy it ... but it hurts the wallet hard

 

ive been resisting to add up what ive paid already with the full range I bought  earlier as well ! and then there is art to come too !  shudder...

 

4 hours ago, blybo said:

I'm planning on keeping my current set up for a long time, so I don't mind the cost, even though probably hard to justify. You'd think with significantly cheaper prices they would get a much higher sign up rate and still end up in front.

 

same here, hoping this can stay for a while ! 

 

7 hours ago, blybo said:

I’ll have to connect my 3rd sub and hopefully get time to run calibration again. We are hosting 22 of my wife’s family tomorrow for a Christmas party so time is tight 

time very tight for us too.. one sub is still out of action and need to  get my rear boundary ones hooked up with sub bale runs as well ..so back log of works is mounting  

 

3 hours ago, RCADees said:

A few months ago I moved the sub and I always felt it was never the same for some reason despite the fact that I did try a few things. It never sounded as powerful and somehow ok but disappointing. Once again all of that is gone and once again all I have to say is WOW.

Can't wait to begin installing Atmos speakers at some point

definitely worth doing atmos when get around to it

 

if not doing dirac.. definitely get the audyssey app at least only $32 usd ? well worth it

[Snoopy8]

The 30% discount offer is advertised in the Dirac Shop and applies to Denon products as well.  And good to see a saving with bundling.

 

Looking forward to hearing  DLBC experience from all of you.  And a back to back compare with Audyssey. 

[SGS]

Have had an SR6014 for a while now, I added an M25 to power 7 channels and the Marantz powers the 4 heights.

 

Was reading the other day that it doesn't disconnect the amp circuits even when using the pre outs which can affect the output once it reaches the internal amps maximum. 9 channels probably result in 60 watts per channel or there about. I did disconnect the fronts as only 9 amps and running 11 channels. 

 

Asking as when I push the volume it doesn't seem to incrementally increase output, though I may be imagining that.

 

Lastly, do the cinema range allow for disconnect when using pre outs on some channels?

Edited December 15, 2023 by SGS

[CCRider]

2 hours ago, betty boop said:

its a lot of cash really... i took one look at the aud price and had to do a double take.. i did buy it ... but it hurts the wallet hard

 

I know Al but our pathetic XChange  Rate doesn't help.

I wonder if they give us a good deal on ART when it is released?

I am not holding my breath.

 

 

[betty boop]

1 hour ago, SGS said:

Lastly, do the cinema range allow for disconnect when using pre outs on some channels?

Not sure on current range but typically only a feature on upper models usually …

[betty boop]

32 minutes ago, CCRider said:

am not holding my breath.

 

Me neither

[CCRider]

7 hours ago, RCADees said:

I have to say that the jump I've experienced from my old Yamaha  RX-A1040 to this Marantz Cinema 40 has been phenomenal and I've only had this for one week.

It really was worth the stretch and to pay more for such quality machine!

This would be a quantum leap in your cinema experience.

You will be surprised how good many of the action films in your collection will sound.

I noticed a very significant improvement going from the 8805 to the AV10.

The huge improvement in the dynamics and soundstage were something that I was so  impressed with. Also clarity of speech and bass management. 

Not as much when I went from the AV8801 to 8805. TBH very little despite the hype on AVSFORUM.

 

 

[RCADees]

15 hours ago, SGS said:

do the cinema range allow for disconnect when using pre outs on some channels?

 

Hi SGS,

 

In the original training video (2020 Marantz SR Series YouTube) they do state that the 2020 SR series is able to disconnect amps not used. I can't confirm if this is only for the higher models at the time or not.

There are three videos but I can't remember which part talks about this.

 

2020 Marantz SR Series - Part 1 The Marantz Difference

 

 

For other users, I can definitely confirm that my Cinema 40 definitely disconnects the amps. When selecting to only use the Pre-Amp for the front Left/Right you can hear the relays turning off.

At the moment I am only running the Centre and LR surrounds with the Cinema 40 so I can't really comment on if I can hear the difference. Make sure you select the "Pre-out Only" option in the Speakers set up as below.

 

 

The advantage of doing this is obviously releasing power for the other speakers, but the way Marantz have done it for the Cinema series is that the HDAMs processing will still go through the Pre-Amp outs properly as it should and feed your power amp.

 

I can confirm that this is what I experienced with the FRL as the detail, texture, and entire presentation dramatically changed from my old AVR. So it is not just gimmicks. It is fabulous.

 

 

You can see in the diagram that the signal from the HDAMs continues to the pre outs.

[RCADees]

13 hours ago, CCRider said:

This would be a quantum leap in your cinema experience.

You will be surprised how good many of the action films in your collection will sound.

I noticed a very significant improvement going from the 8805 to the AV10.

The huge improvement in the dynamics and soundstage were something that I was so  impressed with. Also clarity of speech and bass management. 

Not as much when I went from the AV8801 to 8805. TBH very little despite the hype on AVSFORUM.

 

 

 

Hy CCRider,

 

Yes, it is definitely an incredibly big change. What I mentioned above about the phantom image on the sides of the room really took me by surprise. 

I am thrilled and I can't wait to explore more.

Very Hapy with this decision for sure. 

[RCADees]

17 hours ago, betty boop said:

definitely get the audyssey app at least only $32 usd ? well worth it

 

Hi Al,

 

Thanks for the advice. I am wondering, does this work with my standard out of the box Audyssey set up or what is the deal with the $100 Audyssey numbered microphone from Amazon? Is the mic necessary for this too or the app is enough for now? Thanks 

[betty boop]

15 minutes ago, RCADees said:

 

Hi Al,

 

Thanks for the advice. I am wondering, does this work with my standard out of the box Audyssey set up or what is the deal with the $100 Audyssey numbered microphone from Amazon? Is the mic necessary for this too or the app is enough for now? Thanks 

Hi RCA don’t need the Amazon mic that’s for audyssey X which is replacement for the old audyssey pro.

 

the app works with mic that came with the AVR. Just lets you do things like taking off mid range compensation which want to do to remove the bbc dip that audyssey does by default. It’s all really easy to use. Don’t want mid range compensation ? Untick can also store multiple calibrations that can select and such

[betty boop]

We watched the original Matrix the other night … wow what an experience this was on the 4k uhd release. Amazing audio. Amazing for a movie over 2 decades old ! The marantz does an amazing job in the rendering of all this

Edited December 15, 2023 by betty boop