kaydee61624705921 Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 It seems he will go full range if the speakers have the capability. You will also see that he turn off DEQ.
petetherock Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 3:34 AM, desray said: What's the reason and rationale behind that? Sorry I don't understand Cantonese. A more full bodied sound and better immersion... He also does his cal at 75 db and plays at 0....
desray Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 3:59 AM, petetherock said: A more full bodied sound and better immersion... He also does his cal at 75 db and plays at 0.... Wow!!! Plays at reference?! If play at reference, then of course DEQ no need to engage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
petetherock Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 At 1.37, he also shares a simple method for phase correction... Play the video whilst you are ironing or doing something... it's quite educational..
desray Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 4:03 AM, kaydee6 said: He could be going deaf. Nobody can play at Reference...even if his hearing not affected, I wouldn't want to be *his* neighbour...LoL. Bro Pete, you sure he is not saying, calibrated at pink noise at 75db with Master Volume at '0'db and NOT literally playing at Reference level for actual content (be it music or movies)?! That is 2 different things altogether.
petetherock Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 Watch the video during his demos... the volume OSD is shown.. Even the mike is shaking a bit...
kaydee61624705921 Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 Good demo though. Shows that the 8500 is a workhorse.
desray Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 4:16 AM, petetherock said: Watch the video during his demos... the volume OSD is shown.. Even the mike is shaking a bit... Wow...that's really something :)
petetherock Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 The video is pretty good, he goes through the various functions and features... very detailed.. I wish I was able to ask him some question.. I wonder if any local Denon rep can do the same..
desray Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 5:34 AM, petetherock said: The video is pretty good, he goes through the various functions and features... very detailed.. I wish I was able to ask him some question.. I wonder if any local Denon rep can do the same.. In our dreams *maybe*...Anyone here knows any industry chaps (e.g. D&M technical product manager) au fait with D&M products here in Singapore? Pete, maybe you can ask your calibrator since she is also in the AV home stuff and might know someone here? Worth a shot?
kaydee61624705921 Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 5:39 AM, desray said: In our dreams *maybe*...Anyone here knows any industry chaps (e.g. D&M technical product manager) au fait with D&M products here in Singapore? Pete, maybe you can ask your calibrator since she is also in the AV home stuff and might know someone here? Worth a shot? Yup, unlikely. Even official Denon Singapore website has been shut down for some time.
desray Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 5:47 AM, kaydee6 said: Yup, unlikely. Even official Denon Singapore website has been shut down for some time. The saddest part being a AV consumer here in Singapore is the fact that we can only learn the hard way...by ourselves...trial and error, reading up articles, AVSForum, post queries to Support side and eagerly awaits an answer and the list goes on...what we have learned over the years might be even more than the Ang Mohs and other customers in other part of the world. Unfortunately, what we lack is the proactive sharing of information here...only a few of us actively share our findings on new toys.
badbad2000 Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 11:48 AM, desray said: @badbad2000 - I assuming you also done this? ::) http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX8500H/NA/EN/DRDZSYwdotxfgr.php This step not work as described at all Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
badbad2000 Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 1:04 PM, kaydee6 said: Factory reset it. Done, still the same problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
desray Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 On 18/07/2019 at 6:05 AM, badbad2000 said: This step not work as described at all Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ok noted. Thanks for the update. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kaydee61624705921 Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 30/06/2019 at 12:32 PM, desray said: 5. Under the App, select the frequency range to fit the various speaker crossover frequency range (refer to the speaker spec sheet) @Desray, what is the rationale of correcting up to speaker crossover frequency and not to Schroeder?
desray Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 6:54 AM, kaydee6 said: @Desray, what is the rationale of correcting up to speaker crossover frequency and not to Schroeder? It just sounded better. There is no right or wrong imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kaydee61624705921 Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 9:55 AM, desray said: It just sounded better. There is no right or wrong imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agree. Set to the what sound best to you is the right way to go.
desray Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 10:02 AM, kaydee6 said: Agree. Set to the what sound best to you is the right way to go. It’s very speaker dependent imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kaydee61624705921 Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Went back to limiting correction to 500hz and 2khz and still find full correction with MRC works better for my room. Back to default Audyssey cal.
desray Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 On 25/07/2019 at 3:51 AM, kaydee6 said: Went back to limiting correction to 500hz and 2khz and still find full correction with MRC works better for my room. Back to default Audyssey cal. I thought you advocate to disable MRC? As for correction...I'm experimenting with full correction for my LCR at the moment and it is indeed better. But for surrounds and Atmos speakers, still limiting to 2KHz...YMMV.
kaydee61624705921 Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 On 25/07/2019 at 4:01 AM, desray said: I thought you advocate to disable MRC? As for correction...I'm experimenting with full correction for my LCR at the moment and it is indeed better. But for surrounds and Atmos speakers, still limiting to 2KHz...YMMV. Yes, have turned off MRC for a while and turning on MRC brings some gain. Specifically, playing louder without going too bright. This may be possibly due to my small room.
desray Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 On 25/07/2019 at 4:05 AM, kaydee6 said: Yes, have turned off MRC for a while and turning on MRC brings some gain. Specifically, playing louder without going too bright. This may be possibly due to my small room. Hmmm...I thought MRC on is the opposite of what you just described...the intentional "BBC dip" is because of the sound playing too bright and harsh around that 2KHz range iirc? I could be wrong on that though...Did you try Flat EQ curve instead of Reference EQ curve since you mentioned that you have a small room? This may help...
kaydee61624705921 Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 On 25/07/2019 at 4:13 AM, desray said: Hmmm...I thought MRC on is the opposite of what you just described...the intentional "BBC dip" is because of the sound playing too bright and harsh around that 2KHz range iirc? I could be wrong on that though...Did you try Flat EQ curve instead of Reference EQ curve since you mentioned that you have a small room? This may help... MRC tames the higher mid range and reduce some of its forwardness in the range of 1.5khz to 3khz.
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