RodN Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 yes but that only gives you the HQV processing on HD-DVD.I'd rather it on all sources, like via the new Onkyo 875 receiver Bring it on. So because mine is a local one the HQV turns off when playing regular dvd's through the player...? Last time I checked it was upscaling regular dvd's to 1080i50 nicely.
Muzzer Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 So because mine is a local one the HQV turns off when playing regular dvd's through the player...? Last time I checked it was upscaling regular dvd's to 1080i50 nicely. No worries Rod. I'm hoping the new receiver I'm getting will help with Foxtel, my Tosh Digital TV box as well as dvd's, that's all I'm meaning. Hey, I'd love to own a great quality next gen high def player, so I'm jealous.
cwt Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 i noticed that also - really suprised they didnt put the Realta T2 in the 4808 and the REON in the 3808. shame, as otherwise they look good... Yes D.G. ; The faroudja fli2310 doesnt really cut it anymore-great for 720p like the lower new onkyo's use it but past it for deinterlacing 1080i and scaling to 1080p If they put the realta in the 4808 ;they'd probably get complaints from the pre pro purchasers - caught between a rock and another rock
Cody Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Yes D.G. ; The faroudja fli2310 doesnt really cut it anymore-great for 720p like the lower new onkyo's use it but past it for deinterlacing 1080i and scaling to 1080p If they put the realta in the 4808 ;they'd probably get complaints from the pre pro purchasers - caught between a rock and another rock true, but they could at least have put the REON in it i think. i mean, they managed to get the REON in the 2930 and the REALTA in the 3930, so surely by now they could have worked one or the other in the 4308 at least. personally, i know if i was spending $3000-$4000 on an AVR these days, i would want better video processing than DCDi, and would look past these new Denon's to the likes of Onkyo (who's specs are otherwise almost the same anyway) becuase of this.
k00k1503559827 Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 true, but they could at least have put the REON in it i think. i mean, they managed to get the REON in the 2930 and the REALTA in the 3930, so surely by now they could have worked one or the other in the 4308 at least. personally, i know if i was spending $3000-$4000 on an AVR these days, i would want better video processing than DCDi, and would look past these new Denon's to the likes of Onkyo (who's specs are otherwise almost the same anyway) becuase of this. I dont know sh*t from clay mostly, but I do know a spec list when I see one. Personally, I dont think it stacks up for value even closely when you put it up against the lower priced Onkyos...
Mining Man Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I dont know sh*t from clay mostly ... I think it's the nitrogen content that differs the most. Not really sure myself. Lyle is a geologist, which makes him an expert on both. Perhaps he can help? (sorry Lyle, I'm a mining engineer. You understand, I'm sure. 3 out of the 4 years of my degree were dedicated to geologist jokes. The remaining year was fart jokes if anyone is interested...) Oh er, back on topic. I have to agree. I'll be upgrading my AVR in about 2 years max, and would expect $4k at that time to deliver something that does all the decoding / switching / converting / deinterlacing / scaling that my audio and video sources require, to a pretty darn high standard. Given that DCDi is not by any means the best available now, I certainly would be disappointed to see it in another 18 months on a $4k AVR...
Cody Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 on the other hand, specs of course only tell you so much and i know i will check this aspect of the new denon's out when they get here. you never know, they could have some new version of the DCDi chip which is better than the REON or for some other reason, it may turn out that the DCDi equipped Denons do a better job of the picture thank the Onkyo. on paper though, doesnt look promising.
Curious Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 It's been advertised for a while and isn't coming until the end of October. This is interesting, Rumour has it that these are not going to be released here for general sale, that they are being basically 'handmade' in Japan and that manufacturing runs will be limited to advanced orders from each country's distributor Has anyone heard anything other than this? Cheers, Curious
Spero D. Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 This is interesting,Rumour has it that these are not going to be released here for general sale, that they are being basically 'handmade' in Japan and that manufacturing runs will be limited to advanced orders from each country's distributor Has anyone heard anything other than this? Cheers, Curious First I have heard of that but it wouldn't surprise me.
Curious Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 First I have heard of that but it wouldn't surprise me. If true, then it sort of turns the heat up on organising numbers so an order can be put through Has anyone gotten something firm in the way of pricing yet? (I'm still a few days from knowing something I can quote reasonably safely) Getting a little nervous now Curious
betty boop Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 If true, then it sort of turns the heat up on organising numbers so an order can be put through Has anyone gotten something firm in the way of pricing yet? (I'm still a few days from knowing something I can quote reasonably safely) Getting a little nervous now Curious not to be a wet blanket but they might not really be into discounting their flagship stuff to get it out the door especially since it hasnt even been released yet ! and especially if it reducing the price of tthe gear and the percieved value of thte stuff. you might also find them not be real keen to wanting to allow any group buys especially if its a made to order item as well. I say this with vivid memories of hte last denon group buy that went down on this forum. not somthign denon were particularly pleased with and got shut down real quick. still worth a try but dont build up too many hopes and expectations.
norpus Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I say this with vivid memories of hte last denon group buy that went down on this forum. not somthign denon were particularly pleased with and got shut down real quick. hehe worked OK for me
Curious Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 not to be a wet blanket but they might not really be into discounting their flagship stuff to get it out the door especially since it hasnt even been released yet ! and especially if it reducing the price of tthe gear and the percieved value of thte stuff. you might also find them not be real keen to wanting to allow any group buys especially if its a made to order item as well. I say this with vivid memories of hte last denon group buy that went down on this forum. not somthign denon were particularly pleased with and got shut down real quick.still worth a try but dont build up too many hopes and expectations. Fair point Al, though I wouldn't be getting my hopes up if I didn't think it was possible Once I get something firm in the way of a price I'll PM all posters here for their interest in going forward. Cheers, Curious
Stephen Muir Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Lovely.Down the track we might think about a GB?? I'd be interested, the pre/pro is likely to be too pricey for me, but I will want to see the AVR-5308Ci, depends on price and scaling - it is supposed to have Silicon Optix
CustomHT Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Love the way everyone is raving about these onkyo's without even seeing them or hearing them.. the 875 and 905 arnt even released anywhere.. So before everyone jumps on there ship maby it'd be good to see if it floats first
cwt Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 true, but they could at least have put the REON in it i think. i mean, they managed to get the REON in the 2930 and the REALTA in the 3930, so surely by now they could have worked one or the other in the 4308 at least. personally, i know if i was spending $3000-$4000 on an AVR these days, i would want better video processing than DCDi, and would look past these new Denon's to the likes of Onkyo (who's specs are otherwise almost the same anyway) becuase of this. Couldnt agree more D.G.; If they could manage with the dvd players;especially the 2930 :unsure:As you say its all in the implementation and denon have worked with faroudja chips for a generation at least
Guest Busdriver Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Hi All I live in Hong Kong (I'm Australian) and was at my usual dealer in Mongkok last week looking for something else, and noticed the Denon AVCA1XV on display for HKD44,000 (exchange rate about 6.6:1). From experience this could probably be bettered with a bit of hard bargaining and a display of cash. This may give you some idea what the new pre will cost here when it arrives (I'm looking at one myself to drive my Theta Dreadnaught). Note that in typical Hong Kong fashion demand will probably outstrip supply for the first few months of it's availability, so it will probably initially be offered ABOVE the agent's RRP. Hong Kong is 240V/50Hz, with British 3 pin plug. As a further comparison I have a pair of Dynaudio Contour 5.4's for which I paid HKD42000. The Confidence 2's are available here for HKD55,000/pr. These Dynaudio prices are slated to rise as the HKD (pegged to the USD) continues to slide against most currencies. Hope this is of some help.
norpus Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Hi AllI live in Hong Kong (I'm Australian) and was at my usual dealer in Mongkok last week looking for something else, and noticed the Denon AVCA1XV on display for HKD44,000 (exchange rate about 6.6:1). From experience this could probably be bettered with a bit of hard bargaining and a display of cash. This may give you some idea what the new pre will cost here when it arrives (I'm looking at one myself to drive my Theta Dreadnaught). Note that in typical Hong Kong fashion demand will probably outstrip supply for the first few months of it's availability, so it will probably initially be offered ABOVE the agent's RRP. Hong Kong is 240V/50Hz, with British 3 pin plug. As a further comparison I have a pair of Dynaudio Contour 5.4's for which I paid HKD42000. The Confidence 2's are available here for HKD55,000/pr. These Dynaudio prices are slated to rise as the HKD (pegged to the USD) continues to slide against most currencies. Hope this is of some help. Thanks busdriver, valuable input
Spero D. Posted June 22, 2007 Posted June 22, 2007 Some more info on the 4308- http://www.listenup.com/Content/Partner_St...on/Talmadge.php I really like the sound of the new 2 way 7000 remote- We have a second piece that makes the remote RF to IR. So it pretty much works anywhere in your home, but when you tie it directly into a 4308, the special connection, which is supplied, allows the receiver to send all its data back to the remote control. So all your iPod, your XM, your HD radio, which the 4308 supports — all that metadata is sent back to the remote. So wherever you are, you can actually see, "Oh, this is the song title, this is the status of the receiver, this is the volume — wow, this is pretty cool." Must have item for me. Especially with a Zone 2 setup.
ozcal Posted June 22, 2007 Posted June 22, 2007 Love the way everyone is raving about these onkyo's without even seeing them or hearing them..the 875 and 905 arnt even released anywhere.. So before everyone jumps on there ship maby it'd be good to see if it floats first Been thinking the same thing Scotto , wasn't aware that Onkyo were ever particularly higher regarded in the basic sound quality stakes, i.e. not bad but nothing particularly special either? Gordon
CCRider Posted June 22, 2007 Posted June 22, 2007 http://www.listenup.com/lu/merchant.mvc?Sc...gory_Code=49908Firstly here's the details on the 4308. By the way, it's a USA site so the RRP of $2,500 is US Dollars. Looks like an Onkyo TX-SR905 competitor nice!
fawlty99 Posted June 22, 2007 Posted June 22, 2007 Been thinking the same thing Scotto , wasn't aware that Onkyo were ever particularly higher regarded in the basic sound quality stakes, i.e. not bad but nothing particularly special either?Gordon heh i was just thinking the same thing (ref the bulk buy thread)! These Denons look nice but I won't be getting too keen until they are on the ground & well tested.
franin Posted June 22, 2007 Posted June 22, 2007 I don't know if it's true or not, i was getting my **** organised in regards of upgrading my Denon Avc-a1xva to the Denon AVP-A1HD and was told that in 4-6 weeks they would be due out.This from a retailer apparantely there all going to view it in Sydney within the next few weeks.Again I don't know if it's true, but if it is.. OH Man! it's going to be good!
Aspect Posted June 24, 2007 Posted June 24, 2007 Once they've hit the ground, I'm happy to run with my orignal bulk buy thread, but modify it for the new models. I'm sure I can still get a great price when the time comes.. Cheers, Chris
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