YANG Posted June 17, 2021 Posted June 17, 2021 https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1623389388 The *new* Panasonic UB9000 will hv ESS DAC replacing the AKM ones which is in short supply due to factory incident.
cwt Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Marc said: What's the go-to 4K physical disc player now? For a strictly universal 4k disc player Marc thats well built with niceties like balanced analogue out the pioneer 500/800 would have been a good candidate but they are discontinued.. The Reavon ubr x200 is a good substitute though exxy Reavon UBR-X200 Flagship 4K UHD Universal Blu-Ray Player | Selby UBR-X200 4K UHD Universal Disc Player - Len Wallis Audio If your happy with networking dsd etc files the pana ubd 9000 is a lot more value oriented 4K UHD Blu-ray Player DP-UB9000 | Panasonic Australia Note its dacs are about to be swapped due to that AKM fire.. Panasonic launches UB9000 mk2 UHD Blu-ray player - FlatpanelsHD
Guest Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 Thanks @cwt. No recent developments it seems then. Has anyone actually used the Reavon yet? Interested in real use feedback.
Guest Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 14 hours ago, Marc said: What's the go-to 4K physical disc player now? My recommendation is the Panasonic UB9000 from a PQ and SQ perspective. Have compared it side by side with a Zidoo UHD3000 (which you have). Pana is marginally ahead for 1080p and 4K PQ. For SQ, Pana wins hands down for multi channel music SQ but not as noticeable for movie SQ. Have not used Reavon...
Guest Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, Snoopy8 said: Have compared it side by side with a Zidoo UHD3000 (which you have). Pana is marginally ahead for 1080p and 4K PQ. For SQ, Pana wins hands down for multi channel music SQ but not as noticeable for movie SQ. Thanks for the info. Same source material, and uncompressed vid to compare PQ between physical disc and stored media?
Guest Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Marc said: Thanks for the info. Same source material, and uncompressed vid to compare PQ between physical disc and stored media? Same source material, physical disk and ripped uncompressed in BDMV folder.
Traveller Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 Hi Only recently bought an LG 4K TV, starting to research for other components. Seems some recommendations above for players. Any that upscale SD better than others and also would want region free DVD/Blu Ray playback if possible. I do have an Xbox One that’s being used currently.
Guest Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Traveller said: .Any that upscale SD better than others and also would want region free DVD/Blu Ray playback if possible. The Panasonic players do SD upscaling well. If you want region free players recommend https://www.gattiweb.com/s/shop
Guest Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 On 28/01/2022 at 9:23 PM, Marc said: What's the go-to 4K physical disc player now? I note you now have the Pana UB9000 as the benchmark in your review of the Zidoo UHD3000. It is difficult to beat for PQ. From what I have read, it is better than the Pioneer and Oppo players in this regard. Before I get beaten up by these owners, I know the UB9000 cannot play SACDs and likely not as good for stereo, but it does have a better video processing chip. If someone is looking for a 4K disc player with the best PQ and SQ for movies, the Panasonic UB9000 is it.
agisthos Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 I would love to see Panasonic UB9000 vs Reavon X200 comparison. Wasn't Pioneer also doing a high end 4k player or is that finished?
betty boop Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 23 hours ago, agisthos said: I would love to see Panasonic UB9000 vs Reavon X200 comparison. Wasn't Pioneer also doing a high end 4k player or is that finished? pioneer was always a bit iffy... looked fantastic under hood but support from experience overseas was pretty sketchy not sure locally... did we ever get any come in the country ... was always a "coming soon" type thing re the Panasonic UB9000 vs Reavon X200 comparison... the Reavon certainly looks very sparse under hood given the $3k price tag ! vs the panasonic that looks like amazing value at half the price ! or less for those of us that bought when first came out apart from this unit you just dont seem to get engineering and technology like the for your money any more ... the panasonic makes the Reavon X100 look like a bad joke when you see what get for same money from Reavon that the panasonic goes for ! 1
cwt Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) On 12/08/2022 at 12:46 PM, agisthos said: I would love to see Panasonic UB9000 vs Reavon X200 comparison. Wasn't Pioneer also doing a high end 4k player or is that finished? For picture quality the pana has the edge because of its comprehensive tone mapping for hdr for various display types . Unlike the reavon it can take over tone mapping if your display isnt up to it Or if you happen to have one of the newer high nit oleds its eotf curve will be a closer match for colour gamut .. The circuitry of the pana is isolated a long distance between analogue to digital circuitry with extra bus bars to stop vibration in the chassis which helps laser tracking ;nice .. Edited August 13, 2022 by cwt
agisthos Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 I'm a big proponent of 'source out' on the player, and letting the tv itself handle upscaling, colour space up-conversion e.t.c I have always found the TV to be superior than any player on this. But I have not ever had one of these new 4K/UHD players so am open to trying the Panasonic like in that video. I only bring up the Pioneer player, because a friend I know and trust (Coris from the DIYaudio forums), who does extensive LPM upgrades and clock upgrades to all these 4k players, tells me the Pioneer has superior picture quality to the Panasonic (once both have had their SMPS replaced with superior LPM power supplies). But the Pioneer is no longer available and firmware upgrade development stopped, which is key to these new formats.
cwt Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 23 hours ago, agisthos said: I'm a big proponent of 'source out' on the player, and letting the tv itself handle upscaling, colour space up-conversion e.t.c I have always found the TV to be superior than any player on this. But I have not ever had one of these new 4K/UHD players so am open to trying the Panasonic like in that video. I only bring up the Pioneer player, because a friend I know and trust (Coris from the DIYaudio forums), who does extensive LPM upgrades and clock upgrades to all these 4k players, tells me the Pioneer has superior picture quality to the Panasonic (once both have had their SMPS replaced with superior LPM power supplies). But the Pioneer is no longer available and firmware upgrade development stopped, which is key to these new formats. Yes thats a good rule to let the display do the hard work ; it becomes complicated with tone mapping as the age of the display comes into it. And the capability of the source - the pio bdp800 [the real dear ex model] has fewer tone mapping algorithms than the pana [ there’s some level of output customisation, including four picture presets (Reference, OLED, LCD and projector ] The pana has extra curves to match your display [but if you have an older low nit oled this may not matter] . I find very few reviews of the 800 when it was released oseas but this quote from home cinema choice shows how good the pana hx chipset is ; Quote It’s a matter of conjecture whether the UDP-LX800 is comparable to, or better than, its Panasonic rival when it comes to image quality. Both offer pristine detail. Under the microscope, differences between the two players become slightly more apparent, though. A magnified snapshot of a 4K zone plate chroma frequency response test reveals a stepped edge to ultra-fine, curved edges on the big Pioneer. The same content on the Panasonic has no such coarse stepping, and is smoother as a result. But this is a semantic difference. When it comes to what’s seen onscreen, both are five-star performers. The 1 thing the pana is missing is a source direct function ;pioneer and oppo always provided that ..
DonGreen Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 Hi all Looks like I'll need a 4k Bluray player. Should I just grab the Panasonic DP-UB820 on special now from JB ($453) ? https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/panasonic-dp-ub820-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-with-dolby-vision-and-hdr10-support Or should I save up and see what I can get a UB9000 for? Would it worth the extra money? Will be playing on a Sony 65A80K and thru a Marantz SR6015. Neither of the models support SACD which is a bit of a downer. Anything else that's comparable that I should be considering/ 1 1
Quark Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, DonGreen said: Hi all Looks like I'll need a 4k Bluray player. Should I just grab the Panasonic DP-UB820 on special now from JB ($453) ? https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/panasonic-dp-ub820-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-player-with-dolby-vision-and-hdr10-support Or should I save up and see what I can get a UB9000 for? Would it worth the extra money? Will be playing on a Sony 65A80K and thru a Marantz SR6015. Neither of the models support SACD which is a bit of a downer. Anything else that's comparable that I should be considering/ The 9000 adds analog audio outputs and a more robust case, plus smoother disc mechanism - the video and HDMI audio functions are identical. I went with the 820. JB's current price is unlikely to be beaten. 1 1
Guest Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, DonGreen said: Or should I save up and see what I can get a UB9000 for? Would it worth the extra money? If you want the best audio, the better spinner and HDMI in the UB9000 is the way to go. The build is excellent. 45 minutes ago, DonGreen said: Neither of the models support SACD which is a bit of a downer. Anything else that's comparable that I should be considering/ My SACDs have been ripped and multi channel DSDs are played on UB9000. If SACD is your priority, then Sony UBP-X700 or Reavon UBR-X200. Have not used either but my previous experience with an older Sony model suggested that PQ and SQ is not as good as the Pana. Note that the cheaper Reavon model does not play SACDs There is also used Oppo 203, 205, Pioneer UDP-LX500.
Guest Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Magnetar enters the ring ... https://magnetar-audio.com/ From the same company that manufactures Zappiti and Reavon. Looks more up-market at first glance. Not sure why they didn't keep it in the Reavon range and offer a higher model though.
Guest Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Marc said: Magnetar enters the ring ... https://magnetar-audio.com/ From the same company that manufactures Zappiti and Reavon. Looks more up-market at first glance. Not sure why they didn't keep it in the Reavon range and offer a higher model though. Any idea of availablity in Australia and pricing? Their webstore was flagged as suspicious by BitDefender!
Guest Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 BitDefender is a bit touchy. I dropped it recently due to too many false positives and went back to ESET. No Australian distributor (yet), but I believe a few are talking to them. You'll know as soon as we do!
cwt Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) The magnetar is certainly a close cousin of the reavon x200 . the chassis is identical thickness - Quote with a distinctive double layer chassis structure thickened to 1.6mm and a 3mm steel plate under its base, reducing vibration the main differentiator [the magnetar is heavier] is the toroidal transformer in the reavon and the magnetars custom tranny with anti emi case shielding . If the magnetar is solid it has an advantage - no pointless 5.1/7.1 analogue outputs so the BOM gets better components possibly..[japanese rubycon capacitors i notice ] Avs hints at another model Quote The player comes in a velvet fabric envelope, the box is solid styrofoam. There will be two models, this UDP 800 and later an upgraded version UDP 900. These models will officially be available in north america and Europe later this year and are BDA registered. Edited December 2, 2022 by cwt
DonGreen Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Well, I messed about and missed the Panasonic DP-UB820 special at JB. Looking at other units, I can get a Sony UBP-X800Mk2 for under $800. Is this going to be a substantially better player than the Pana? The SACD support would be handy, and will bye playing on a Sony XR65A80K.
Quark Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, DonGreen said: Well, I messed about and missed the Panasonic DP-UB820 special at JB. Looking at other units, I can get a Sony UBP-X800Mk2 for under $800. Is this going to be a substantially better player than the Pana? The SACD support would be handy, and will bye playing on a Sony XR65A80K. The Sony players are a lottery - a significant proportion have issues with discs freezing, particularly on layer changes - supposedly a combination of issues with weak lasers / misaligned lasers / marginal memory. Sony usually play hard-ball on warranty claims for this and blame it on the discs. Also the Sony players don't automatically detect Dolby Vision - you have to turn it on/off manually. 1
Guest Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 5 hours ago, DonGreen said: Looking at other units, I can get a Sony UBP-X800Mk2 for under $800. Is this going to be a substantially better player than the Pana? Since when has increasing the price = substantially better ??? . Based on this, maybe X700 better value? https://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x700/review#:~:text=The X700 may be cheaper,better value of the two.
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