petetherock Posted January 20, 2016 Author Posted January 20, 2016 actuallythey have kept this featureon all their top models...
jdc115 Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Are you sure? I can't find any on Sony's website other than this model. When I check Amazon, I can only find it on discontinued models. Even if I check Sony's audio pages, this is the only player I can find, not even a dedicated CD/SACD player.
Vinylfan Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Does this mean that my new Oppo 105D player is already obsolete??
Highonthehog Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 On 24/01/2016 at 1:30 AM, Vinylfan said: Does this mean that my new Oppo 105D player is already obsolete?? Think so if you want to play native 4k content.
petetherock Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 On 24/01/2016 at 1:30 AM, Vinylfan said: Does this mean that my new Oppo 105D player is already obsolete?? Well the question is : - do you have a total 4k chain - amp, source and display? - are you going to go 4k soon for all your software ? For example, I have hundreds of BR discs, and 'only' a 1080p' PJ and TV. I am not to fussed about joining the 4k bandwagon if the signing up costs are high. But at USD 399, the first player is very interesting, and offers backward compatibility with my old BR discs. So getting it is a no brainer. However I may opt for a 2nd gen player just so that they sort out the kinks and develop a 220V version. Also a twin HDMI output is very useful, especially for legacy users without a full HDMI 2.0a / HDCP 2.2 chain. Many casual HT users have a 4k TV, and watch DVDs or FTA channels on it, and wonder why the PQ is bad. So if your current setup is mostly 1080p based, there's nothing to fret about. Your 105D is a solid player and will give you a lot of joy. Besides people don't buy a 105D and worry about 4k. This is a high-end player valued for it's musical playback, media centre capability rather than it's 4k or even BR playback duties. If you wanted a 4k upscaling player, there are plenty of cheaper options. Nowadays for around $300, you can get something from Sony / Pioneer etc that even includes SACD playback.
petetherock Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 On 20/01/2016 at 1:15 PM, jdc115 said: Are you sure? I can't find any on Sony's website other than this model. When I check Amazon, I can only find it on discontinued models. Even if I check Sony's audio pages, this is the only player I can find, not even a dedicated CD/SACD player. You can see SACD playback capability on the top models for the past 5 years. See the 7200, 790, 6200, 6500 etc... This is a thread about BR players, so I can't comment on whether Sony still carries music only SACD playback players... Cheers
petetherock Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 If one is in USA or can buy direct, Fox Connect is offering their 4k discs at a significant discount...
Vinylfan Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 On 24/01/2016 at 3:26 AM, petetherock said: Well the question is : - do you have a total 4k chain - amp, source and display? - are you going to go 4k soon for all your software ? For example, I have hundreds of BR discs, and 'only' a 1080p' PJ and TV. I am not to fussed about joining the 4k bandwagon if the signing up costs are high. But at USD 399, the first player is very interesting, and offers backward compatibility with my old BR discs. So getting it is a no brainer. However I may opt for a 2nd gen player just so that they sort out the kinks and develop a 220V version. Also a twin HDMI output is very useful, especially for legacy users without a full HDMI 2.0a / HDCP 2.2 chain. Many casual HT users have a 4k TV, and watch DVDs or FTA channels on it, and wonder why the PQ is bad. So if your current setup is mostly 1080p based, there's nothing to fret about. Your 105D is a solid player and will give you a lot of joy. Besides people don't buy a 105D and worry about 4k. This is a high-end player valued for it's musical playback, media centre capability rather than it's 4k or even BR playback duties. If you wanted a 4k upscaling player, there are plenty of cheaper options. Nowadays for around $300, you can get something from Sony / Pioneer etc that even includes SACD playback. Thank you! Your message is informative and reassuring.
petetherock Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 No problem.. Whatever the device, read the manual and spec sheet, and figure out your own needs, immediate and in a few years, then buy the item and enjoy... Cheers
petetherock Posted January 27, 2016 Author Posted January 27, 2016 Philips enters the fray: http://4k.com/news/philips-reveals-new-4k-blu-ray-player-with-hdr-support-at-ces-2016-11837/ Quote Philips reveals new 4K UHD Blu-ray player with HDR support at CES 2016 by Stephen on January 6, 2016 </ins> Stephan Jukic – January 06, 2016 Philip’s 4K UHD TVs and other devices aren’t the most famous on the North American market when compared to Sony, LG or Samsung models (though they do sell well in Europe) but the company is known for producing quality, cutting-edge technology and the latest, revealed at CES 2016 definitely point in this direction. To start with Philips has announced the upcoming release of a new 4K UHD Blu-ray player, which will make it the third company in this new year do offer such a device, along with Panasonic and Samsung (at least from what we’ve heard via CES 2016). The new player will offer HDR video support and goes by the model number BDP7501. In essence, this new device is designed to compete with the Blu-ray 4K offerings of both Samsung’s and Panasonics players while also offering a ridiculously compact design that beats both of the competitors’ models. The player in fact looks more like a particularly small set-top box than a standard disc media player. As for details on the new 4K Blu-ray device, it comes with built-in support for high dynamic range video and also offers full compatibility with[/size][/size] [/size]both VP9 and HEVC 4K video compression codecs[/color][/size], meaning that it can play a wide range of content from sources that support either format, which means[/size] [/size]movies and shows in 4K from Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube and others[/color][/size]. There will also be an upscaling option for non-4K UHD video sources and connectivity for both HDMI 2.0a and the older HDMI 1.4 will be built into the BDP7501.
petetherock Posted January 27, 2016 Author Posted January 27, 2016 An interesting article about when 4k isn't really 4k: http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/ultra-hd-not-always-4k/
petetherock Posted February 13, 2016 Author Posted February 13, 2016 First review of the samsung : http://m.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Samsung/ultra-hd-bluray/4K/UHD/hdr/hands-on-first-look-samsung-ubdk8500-ultra-hd-bluray-player/29748 Very promising... But there's word about hdcp issues so early adopters beware ..
petetherock Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 Bro Audio and others who bought the Samsung: Have you got it yet, and how is it? 4k discs are now on the market, and it's clear that they want buy-in by the cutting edge folks..
Audio Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Amazon is delaying shipment. If you are lucky, you may get one from the retail stores in the US. I understand even Walmart have some. Best Buy had double their retail price for the UBD-K8500. It could be that everyone is now asking for stock and Amazon is losing their allocation to the retailers. I will be in the US early March and I will be making attempts. All my 4K UHD disc are shipping normal, I would have a bunch of them early March. I am holding out on the Marantz 8820A, I am going to put the player very near to the projector and run a long HDMI to the AVP instead because now I know the player has dual HDMI. (Audio)
htfreak Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 I'll be in the US in early March as well and will be sounding out all the Best Buy and Fry's stores in the area. Wanted to reserve one for BB store pickup when I'm there but it seems that BB online is not even accepting orders now.
petetherock Posted February 25, 2016 Author Posted February 25, 2016 I am grateful for the adventure of brave pioneers like you two. Go for it, and please report back. I look forward to getting one when there is stock of a 220V version, and it will give me reason to upgrade my display... heh..
Audio Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Nothing brave about this. HDDVD first player Toshiba HD-A1 cosst about SGD$1.3K (US$800) Blu Ray first player Sony BDP-S1 costs about US$1K Now Samsung UBD-K8500 cost US$399.....it is a no-brainer decision. (Audio)
Guest durianlover88 Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 I am eager for 4K player to play to my 4K TV, but target is Panasonic UB900, not Samsung model...
desray Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Bro Audio, are you aware some members in the AVSforum claimed that the PQ of the UHD bluray is nearly identical to the upscaled 1080p version of the bluray on their Sony 4K projector. Most of them are from VW500ES users, like myself...I believe you have the VW1100ES? I hope it will look good on your VW1100ES. Maybe the internals of the cheaper VW500ES has issue with HDR and higher color gamut. HDCP 2.2 for Input 2 allows 4K content to be played on the projector but the on-board video processor probably unable to produce higher bitrate of 10bit and above...4:2:0 is no issue.
petetherock Posted February 25, 2016 Author Posted February 25, 2016 Well not all 4k discs are the same. There were some good things said about "The Martian" so I think I will get the 4k copy, which comes with a BR disc too.. That said, I don't think I will convert my existing catalogue to 4k..
desray Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Agreed that the source material may not be true 4k... Some 4k titles may have its 2k counterpart up converted to 4k. I recalled most films are shot in 4k natively... I remember I read it somewhere. So it's kind of strange to read that some sources may be the reason. Need more samples and testing before we can arrive to a conclusion. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
jdc115 Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 I'm not sure what camara resolution used for most digital films but maybe this has something to do with it: http://4k.com/news/20-years-movie-titles-filmed-4k-nobody-bothered-save/ According to Kane, who is also a former chair of the SMPTE Working Group on Professional and Studio Monitors, the post production community has been filming many of their movies in real Cinema Grade 4096 X 2160 pixel resolution and then simply downsizing it to a much smaller 2K format for archiving without bothering to save the original real 4K footage simply because they were…. “Completely unaware of 2160p coming.”
tiktokape Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Provided by AVS. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41972913 Samsung K8500 is in 110/120v. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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