Guitars

[Ooogh]

On 6/10/2023 at 8:24 AM, Tweaky said:

 

Gary Moore used to play a 1959 Sunburst Les Paul that was originally owned by Peter Green, from the original Fleetwood Mac lineup.

Peter, had at one stage, taken the guitar to have something fixed on it, in the process of putting the guitar back together again, the repair guy put one of the pickups back in the wrong way around, this resulted in the pickups being out of phase with each other, resulting in a unique sound when the pickup selector was in the middle position.

 

Peter sold the guitar to Gary Moore, who was then playing with Thin Lizzy [I saw the guitar briefly when they played at the Sydney Opera house steps in 1978, it has horrendously high action on it -possibly a bad neck bow -and combined with the small vintage sized frets, I'm surprised he, or anybody else could play it ]

Anyway, he soldiered on with it, and played it for the next 30+ years until bad business dealings [and too much booze] forced him to put it up for sale before he died.

 

It eventually ended up in the possession of Kirk Hammett from Metallica, who still owns it today.

He lent the guitar to Gibson so they could make replicas of it, and you can currently buy a sort of copy of it , called the "Greeny" for AUS $6500 [not much difference than a standard Custom Shop - price wise] or a full blow "Murphy Lab" recreation, where every scratch, paint chip, tarnishing etc is recreated for AUS $45,000.

https://guitar.com.au/gibson-kirk-hammett-greeny-murphy-lab/

 

Original Les Paul Sunburst guitars have a huge myth built around them, mainly because they were only built for three years 58-60, and there were only ever around 1400 ever made in total [nobody knows for sure as some of Gibsons log books are missing from that period]

They are considered the "Stradivarius " of the Electric Guitar world, and attract very stupid money for them [currently around US $800-900,000 for a good early example]

 

The truth is, they only revel their magic when cranked up to max volume through a Marshell amp, and TBH any GOOD modern Sunburst Gibson Les Paul [Some Dogs slip through Gibson QC ] would sound so close as to be pretty much indistinguishable from the original.

Personally all the holy grail guitars just don’t do it for me, especially now most are in the hands of investors using them as trinkets to show their wealth. These insane prices take the true enthusiasts out of the market , just as has happened with classic cars.

 

All the custom shop stuff that is beaten about and attacked with scouring pads to appear old and then sold at crazy inflated prices is just stupid in my opinion. If you want a guitar to look like it has had an exciting life on the road, play a million songs on it! Make your own history with an instrument. There are beautiful, fantastic guitars being made today, some of which, in time , will become revered. A guitar built by one master luthier in the late ‘60s with wood no longer readily available is something special. Personally however I find it hard to believe the production workers at Gibson in ‘69 were glueing together a better instrument than similar workers at PRS with all types of modern equipment and a CNC machine are doing today. I am sure some of the ‘magic’ comes from simply being older and maybe from having thousands of hours of music resonating through the instrument, even if that makes no logical sense!
 

 

 

[oztheatre]

On 01/10/2023 at 5:14 AM, Tweaky said:

 

I'd put Japan at the top of the list over the USA for build quality of guitars, consistency as well.

The only problem with them is that generally, they don't hold their value as much as USA made guitars, and seldom appreciate in value.

 

If Stevie Ray Vaughn hadn't died, that situation might of changed, as he had signed a deal to play TOKAI guitars just before the helicopter accident.

I think his influence, especially as he was so big at the time, would have changed opinions of Japanese made guitars and made them a lot more valuable today in the vintage market [Although trying to date Japanese guitars is a nightmare ]

 

I was surprised when you mention the current value of your Washburn N4, but when you consider the average NEW price of a comparable guitar it seems correct.

Personally, I've never seen the fascination for the Floyd Rose Tremolo system, it seems more of a PITA if / when you break a string, plus the added weight.

I suppose it's one of those things that you have to have used for a while before you appreciate it.

 

I've built a Frankenstrat using Gotoh stagger tuners

https://www.realparts.com.au/tuning-machines/6-in-line/gotoh-sd91-staggered-post-height-vintage-tuning-keys-nickel.html

and a Wilkinson Contemporary 5+1 Tremolo, that has a "stagger drilled" solid steel block,

https://www.realparts.com.au/bridges-tailpieces/tremolo-st-style/wilkinson-contemporary-5-1-tremolo-chrome.html

Which with the use of both, lessens the string break angle over both the nut and the saddles, so there is very little friction at those points.

 

Both can be fitted to Vintage spec'd Strats without the need for any modification

The reasoning behind this, and component choice is show in a set of videos below, up "Setting up your Strat for best Tremolo use".

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXU3GYv5qEzuPePqXOJBgXw

 

I've got it setup as a "Floating Bridge" [Same as a Floyd Rose]. meaning I can pull up a semitone, as well as dive bomb away until the strings are flapping around, and it will come back to perfect tuning every time, without the need of a locking nut.

 

I have to give credit where credit is due to Galeazzo Frudua for explaining the science behind this, and narrowing down the components to get.

Also how, by using a tuner and a small Post-stick block of paper, you can finely adjust the springs at the back of the guitar so it doesn't go out of tune, regardless of how heavy handed you are with the tremolo

This is the thing hardly anybody knows about, let alone how to do.

 

The video below shows how to do this setup on a modern Two Pivot Strat trem bridge, but you can do exactly the same with a classic 6 screw traditional start bridge.

 

 

 

Thank you mate. I was away all week and limited internet. Lots to look at here so I'll dig in tomorrow. 

I'm quite overwhelmed by all those celestion speakers and have no idea now.. I think maybe just the blue vox in an AC15 or AC30 will suffice.

 

Add in some pedals and I think I'll be good to go for another 2 decades of sounding like someone is throwing razor blades at your ears 

 

[Tweaky]

28 minutes ago, Ooogh said:

Personally all the holy grail guitars just don’t do it for me, especially now most are in the hands of investors using them as trinkets to show their wealth. These insane prices take the true enthusiasts out of the market , just as has happened with classic cars.

 

All the custom shop stuff that is beaten about and attacked with scouring pads to appear old and then sold at crazy inflated prices is just stupid in my opinion. If you want a guitar to look like it has had an exciting life on the road, play a million songs on it! Make your own history with an instrument. There are beautiful, fantastic guitars being made today, some of which, in time , will become revered. A guitar built by one master luthier in the late ‘60s with wood no longer readily available is something special. Personally however I find it hard to believe the production workers at Gibson in ‘69 were glueing together a better instrument than similar workers at PRS with all types of modern equipment and a CNC machine are doing today. I am sure some of the ‘magic’ comes from simply being older and maybe from having thousands of hours of music resonating through the instrument, even if that makes no logical sense!
 

 

 

 

I've had opportunities to buy vintage 50's & 60's Strats and Teles in the 70's for what was a song {I also remember going around to other guitar players places and seeing Fender Ashtray bridge covers used exactly for that purpose, a an ashtray ]

I never seemed to run into many vintage Gibsons for some reason, apart from a 1960 Sunburst Les Paul a mate had

[I don't know what had happened to the original case he kept it in, but it absolutely stank like a bin full of dead rats, once smelt never forgotten ]

 

The problem usually was that usually I didn't like the instruments.

A lot of them were horrible TBH, and needed many many hours of work done to them to get them up to scratch [which I didn't have the needed tools, or expertise to do myself back then, but do now ]

 

Even some of the cheapest Chinese made guitar are pretty good these days.

OK the materials used are not that great [especially the fingerboards if not Maple ...same goes for current Epiphones last time I looked ], but a lot of the stuff can be upgraded.

 

You certainly don't need to spend a ton of money to get a great playing guitar these days.

 

Gibsons usually cost more than Fenders for two reasons, the first is because they use glued in necks, rather than bolt on ones, a secondly, for the most part they use Nitrocellulose lacquer rather than polyester lacquer, which requires a lot more time and procedures before you get the final product, - its more dangerous to work with as well.

[ I remember reading that Kris Derrig, who made the Les Paul copy that Slash used on Appetite for Destruction, died because of complications from years of inhaling Nitrocellulose lacquer ]

 

[oztheatre]

54 minutes ago, Ooogh said:

Personally all the holy grail guitars just don’t do it for me, especially now most are in the hands of investors using them as trinkets to show their wealth. These insane prices take the true enthusiasts out of the market , just as has happened with classic cars.

 

All the custom shop stuff that is beaten about and attacked with scouring pads to appear old and then sold at crazy inflated prices is just stupid in my opinion. If you want a guitar to look like it has had an exciting life on the road, play a million songs on it! Make your own history with an instrument. There are beautiful, fantastic guitars being made today, some of which, in time , will become revered. A guitar built by one master luthier in the late ‘60s with wood no longer readily available is something special. Personally however I find it hard to believe the production workers at Gibson in ‘69 were glueing together a better instrument than similar workers at PRS with all types of modern equipment and a CNC machine are doing today. I am sure some of the ‘magic’ comes from simply being older and maybe from having thousands of hours of music resonating through the instrument, even if that makes no logical sense!
 

 

 

 

Well Carlos Santana swears by PRS geetars.. Doing a blind test will bring most of this undone too... There cannot be that much between them.. They all sound good to me.. it's music at the end of the day.. 12 notes, do your thing with 12 notes

[betocool]

Dave Gilmour sold his collection a few years back for a staggering amount of money, all going to charity. Tools of the trade he said in a podcast. I'm sure he'll be able to afford any guitar he wants and still make it sound like David Gilmour.

 

I have a Jarrah Tele and a cheapo SG that maybe I should offer him...

 

Cheers,

 

Alberto

[Tweaky]

5 hours ago, oztheatre said:

 

Well Carlos Santana swears by PRS geetars.. Doing a blind test will bring most of this undone too... There cannot be that much between them.. They all sound good to me.. it's music at the end of the day.. 12 notes, do your thing with 12 notes

Both Fender and Gibson are are victims of their own success, with their Les Paul's /SG's [either Humbucker or P90 ], and Fender with Tele /Strat.

If they try to deviate from those designs, it usually ends in failure commercially, hence the never ending production of the same with only cosmetic change.

 

Guitarists are traditionalists at heart, and tend to shun change, especially when it's unnecessary [ Gibson's decision to fit ALL new Les Pauls with ROBO tuners , and raise the price considerably in 2015 is a classic example - the backlash was huge ]

 

PRS Guitars are ones that I could never tell if somebody were playing, they don't have a distinct sound.

I suppose that's because they don't really do anything differently than a Fender or Gibson, SOUND WISE, they just make variations of the tried and true designs of both, and even then, there use of a "In-between" 24" scale length doesn't give you the same Bass of a Les Paul, or the High's of a Fender Telecaster.

 

PRS whole reason for being is based on refinement of previous designs and the use of striking Maple tops.

Playability is top notch, construction is as well, if not a LOT better, their own pickups are great, and their looks are great with their heavily figured Maple tops.......Generally, they are better made guitars.

So why aren't they more popular ? Being a better guitar you would think they would sell in larger quantities than they do, and even those that do buy them often end up selling them, or not using them, that includes well know guitarists that have been endorsing PRS, they seldom carry on playing PRS after the endorsement has ended. WHY ?

Anybody got any theories ?

 

My gut feeling is that generally they are considered a lounge room guitar, or a collectors guitar, and not so much of a players guitar.

TBH, as nice as they are, I've never considered actually buying one......well the PRS [SE version] of the Hollowbody II Piezo is as about as close to having me interested as I'm bound to get, as at least it IS different.

 

 

 

 

 

[Ooogh]

10 hours ago, Tweaky said:

Both Fender and Gibson are are victims of their own success, with their Les Paul's /SG's [either Humbucker or P90 ], and Fender with Tele /Strat.

If they try to deviate from those designs, it usually ends in failure commercially, hence the never ending production of the same with only cosmetic change.

 

Guitarists are traditionalists at heart, and tend to shun change, especially when it's unnecessary [ Gibson's decision to fit ALL new Les Pauls with ROBO tuners , and raise the price considerably in 2015 is a classic example - the backlash was huge ]

 

PRS Guitars are ones that I could never tell if somebody were playing, they don't have a distinct sound.

I suppose that's because they don't really do anything differently than a Fender or Gibson, SOUND WISE, they just make variations of the tried and true designs of both, and even then, there use of a "In-between" 24" scale length doesn't give you the same Bass of a Les Paul, or the High's of a Fender Telecaster.

 

PRS whole reason for being is based on refinement of previous designs and the use of striking Maple tops.

Playability is top notch, construction is as well, if not a LOT better, their own pickups are great, and their looks are great with their heavily figured Maple tops.......Generally, they are better made guitars.

So why aren't they more popular ? Being a better guitar you would think they would sell in larger quantities than they do, and even those that do buy them often end up selling them, or not using them, that includes well know guitarists that have been endorsing PRS, they seldom carry on playing PRS after the endorsement has ended. WHY ?

Anybody got any theories ?

 

My gut feeling is that generally they are considered a lounge room guitar, or a collectors guitar, and not so much of a players guitar.

TBH, as nice as they are, I've never considered actually buying one......well the PRS [SE version] of the Hollowbody II Piezo is as about as close to having me interested as I'm bound to get, as at least it IS different.

 

 

 

 

 

I totally agree Tweaky.

 

It seems any attempt to deviate from tradition, especially by Gibson, is met with derision and commercial failure.

 

I should love PRS. They are impeccably built, have unbelievable finishes and use beautiful figured tops.  I think they are simply too much, in an aesthetic way, not their price point. Somehow they seem overdone, too perfect, too shiny. All logic says if someone is after a beautifully built and finished guitar that plays well and will last a life time then PRS is the way to go. I think if I worked at PRS it would drive me nuts watching people buying $5k to $10k Gibson reissues when they are building what by any  logical criteria are better guitars.

 

All very strange stuff. I lust after a Fireglow Rickenbacker 360. Also a bit overdone and flash, also to my eye a more feminine guitar and priced to make your eyes water. Got to hand it to Rickenbacker, just keep banging out the same guitars and basses from the dawn of time. Stay small, make sure demand exceeds supply and live happily ever after.

https://guitar.com.au/rickenbacker-360-semi-hollow-body-electric-guitar-fireglo/

 

[zenikoy]

1 hour ago, Ooogh said:

I totally agree Tweaky.

 

It seems any attempt to deviate from tradition, especially by Gibson, is met with derision and commercial failure.

 

I should love PRS. They are impeccably built, have unbelievable finishes and use beautiful figured tops.  I think they are simply too much, in an aesthetic way, not their price point. Somehow they seem overdone, too perfect, too shiny. All logic says if someone is after a beautifully built and finished guitar that plays well and will last a life time then PRS is the way to go. I think if I worked at PRS it would drive me nuts watching people buying $5k to $10k Gibson reissues when they are building what by any  logical criteria are better guitars.

 

All very strange stuff. I lust after a Fireglow Rickenbacker 360. Also a bit overdone and flash, also to my eye a more feminine guitar and priced to make your eyes water. Got to hand it to Rickenbacker, just keep banging out the same guitars and basses from the dawn of time. Stay small, make sure demand exceeds supply and live happily ever after.

https://guitar.com.au/rickenbacker-360-semi-hollow-body-electric-guitar-fireglo/

 

 

I'm a sucker for the more left field guitars, particularly if played by my musical heroes. Over the last 30 years I've traded in and out of most of the famous makes and styles, though I never met an SG that I felt like buying. I had a Rickenbacker 330/6 Fireglow early on which was beautiful, but I found it to be a bit of a one trick pony and not fun to play. I also recently had an Indonesian made PRS SE which was a better guitar than the USA Strat and Tele that I owned in the 90s.

 

Current stable:

1975 Gibson ES335 - the lifer, had it for 30 years and will be part of my estate.

"ES175" kit guitar - great learning experience and plays great after much tweaking

Partscaster - built up with all the Strat variations I like in one guitar.

 

and drumroll, earlier this year I bought for a song the second last of my left field/weirdo guitars dream list (that Jazzmaster will appear one day).

 

 

Edited October 10, 2023 by zenikoy

[Ooogh]

Thunderbirds are go!

[zenikoy]

8 minutes ago, Ooogh said:

Thunderbirds are go!

Firebirds

[Ooogh]

Oh no, too much bass on my mind!

[Tweaky]

14 hours ago, zenikoy said:

 

I'm a sucker for the more left field guitars, particularly if played by my musical heroes. Over the last 30 years I've traded in and out of most of the famous makes and styles, though I never met an SG that I felt like buying. I had a Rickenbacker 330/6 Fireglow early on which was beautiful, but I found it to be a bit of a one trick pony and not fun to play. I also recently had an Indonesian made PRS SE which was a better guitar than the USA Strat and Tele that I owned in the 90s.

 

Current stable:

1975 Gibson ES335 - the lifer, had it for 30 years and will be part of my estate.

"ES175" kit guitar - great learning experience and plays great after much tweaking

Partscaster - built up with all the Strat variations I like in one guitar.

 

and drumroll, earlier this year I bought for a song the second last of my left field/weirdo guitars dream list (that Jazzmaster will appear one day).

 

 

 

After posting about the PRS SE Hollowbody Piezo II, I went and did a search to find out how much the American made version was

https://www.mannys.com.au/prs-hollowbody-ii-piezo-dark-cherry-sunburst-inc-hard-case

 

As nice as the wood is, could you really justify the $6550 price difference between it and the SE version ?

 

[The guitar linked is considered to be in the Standard range of PRS - Not from the more expensive "Wood Library" or " Private Stock" level, which you can easily add another $8-10,000 on top of the that price.]

 

TBH I just had a look at the prices of new guitars, and quite frankly I'm in shock, the prices have gone through the roof, and very hard [Impossible really] to justify for the Gibson and Fender Custom models.

I know the Aussie Peso has dropped into a puddle, but I'm seeing a close to 30-40% price increase in the last 2-3 months.....to quote Pauline Hanson - Please Explain !

 

Since I got diagnosed with a terminal illness, and knowing nobody in my family, apart from my older brother, actually plays a instrument [he's 75 and getting rid of stuff himself] I've given away what vintage guitars I had.

I've still got plenty left

 

[Hilltop Hippy]

G'day Peeps,

 

My daughter has been playing for about a year or so. Presently she has a Taylor nylon string guitar. Her teacher feels she's ready for an electric, so with Christmas coming, its on the list.

 

Her teacher told me to find a secondhand Squier. So I am hunting around for one.

 

My question is, what do I do about an amp? It doesn't need to fill a stadium, but I want it to not sound like a tin can. I need to listen to it. What's decent? I don't really have a budget in mind. Secondhand is fine, I just need something that sounds reasonable.

 

I figured our discerning members here might be able to point me in the right direction.

 

Thoughts?

[Darryl]

Boss Katana are great amps for this purpose.

There are plenty of clean and dirty sounds, along with effects built in so should keep her happy for ages.

Other brands have similar amps but I own a Katana so can speak from experience.

There are plenty of them around so finding one second hand shouldn't be hard.

 

What sort of music does she like to play? 

 

[Jake]

55 minutes ago, Hilltop Hippy said:

G'day Peeps,

 

My daughter has been playing for about a year or so. Presently she has a Taylor nylon string guitar. Her teacher feels she's ready for an electric, so with Christmas coming, its on the list.

 

Her teacher told me to find a secondhand Squier. So I am hunting around for one.

 

My question is, what do I do about an amp? It doesn't need to fill a stadium, but I want it to not sound like a tin can. I need to listen to it. What's decent? I don't really have a budget in mind. Secondhand is fine, I just need something that sounds reasonable.

 

I figured our discerning members here might be able to point me in the right direction.

 

Thoughts?

Custom Vibe Squiers are lovely guitars. I have never owned an Affinity.
However, I do own 5 Artist guitars (Les Paul Jr copy, Grungemaster, 5 string bass, 335 copy and a solid body acoustic), made in China, and the workmanship is excellent. I would not hesitate to buy another one. I also own more expensive guitars and make my own, so seriously impressed with Artist. The resale value will be poor, but they are so inexpensive to start with it doesn't matter. Many guitar heads will ignore this brand, but that would only be due to their lack of exposure. The only thing I have had to do with mine is dress the frets a little, as they don't seem to polish them in the factory. But that is a 10 minute job.

[Jake]

As for amps I can also vouch for the Katana. But it comes down to budget as well.

[Hilltop Hippy]

16 minutes ago, Darryl said:

What sort of music does she like to play? 

 

Thanks for the advice! mostly 70-80-90's pop and rock at the moment. Her teacher flits around a lot depending on what he feels she needs to focus on......he's a multi instrumentalist, incredible to watch and good variety for our daughter (piano, guitar, drums and others) but guitar seems to be the favourite for her. I'm of no help to her, but as I say, I've got to listen to it, so I have a little input   

[Darryl]

I've got quite a few Squiers so was going to make a recommendation based on what music she likes to play.

 

She might be better off with humbuckers for example if playing heavy music.

[Darryl]

70-80-90's pop and rock can't really go wrong with a Strat or Tele.

As Jake said the Classic Vibes are nice although I don't particularly like the glossy necks as they can get sticky in hot and humid conditions.

The Affinity series have sanded necks from memory, at least the older ones did, which I prefer.

Plenty of Squiers around too so shouldn't be hard to find a nice second hand one.

[Hilltop Hippy]

3 minutes ago, Darryl said:

I've got quite a few Squiers so was going to make a recommendation based on what music she likes to play.

 

She might be better off with humbuckers for example if playing heavy music.

 

Songs she's been playing recently, Santa Monica, Smells like teen spirt, Eagle Rock, Bohemian Rhapsody, a raft of Kate Ceberano songs

[Hilltop Hippy]

@Darryl

 

What about this? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1295015531380113/

 

Its local

[Darryl]

Looks good!

I haven't tried that guitar but it should be OK I would have thought. Personally I'd get a Squier but that's just me.

To save you guitar set up costs, there's a few simple checks you can do when you look at the guitar.

Make sure the strings aren't too far off the fretboard, in other words you don't have to press down too hard to fret a note.

Play every note on the fretboard, just go up each string playing every note once and check that there is no buzzing and the sound is clear.

Both of these things can be fixed usually but it will cost you unless you have someone who can fix it for free.

Also check both pickups, the volume and tone controls, and tuner keys all work ok. 

The amp in the pic is a mark one rather than mark two, but for your daughter's purposes that won't matter. The mark two has some extra sounds and effects from memory, but the mark one still has plenty.

Might be able to use that to get a bit of discount.

The mark two is easily identified by two downward pointing arrows under the Katana symbol on the front.

[Hilltop Hippy]

@Darryl wonderful! thank you kindly for the advice. I'll see how we go. I very much appreciated it!

[Tweaky]

On 16/10/2023 at 9:54 AM, Hilltop Hippy said:

G'day Peeps,

 

My daughter has been playing for about a year or so. Presently she has a Taylor nylon string guitar. Her teacher feels she's ready for an electric, so with Christmas coming, its on the list.

 

Her teacher told me to find a secondhand Squier. So I am hunting around for one.

 

My question is, what do I do about an amp? It doesn't need to fill a stadium, but I want it to not sound like a tin can. I need to listen to it. What's decent? I don't really have a budget in mind. Secondhand is fine, I just need something that sounds reasonable.

 

I figured our discerning members here might be able to point me in the right direction.

 

Thoughts?

 

I had the same dilemma last year in selecting a Guitar/Amp for a kid learning Guitar.

 

I ended up giving them one of my Fender Strats [Saved me buying a new guitar ], and on the advice of another forum member got a small Positive Grid - Spark , combo amp [they have since brought out two even smaller amps, the MINI and GO at $229 and $129 respectively

[Get the SPARK is my advice, the GO is more like a toy and sounds very tinny, and the price difference between the SPARK and MINI is so small, you might as well get the larger amp]

https://www.positivegrid.com/products/spark

 

The Spark amp was so good I bought one for myself, amazing technology inside it....very cheap for what you get as well [ Price is $269 - currently a $30 discount, and they are including a Gig bag with it -the amp is light enough to put in the gig bag and carry using the shoulder strap, even for a kid]

 

What makes these amp special is they have different amplifier/cabinet emulations, and a multitude of effects build in.

Not only that, but you can also use them as a amplifier for a Acoustic or Bass guitar as well.

 

You use either a iPhone or iPad or Android phone to load a APP onto [Free], the software controls the amp and effects, as well as including a Tuner & Metronome......but that's just the basics of what this thing can do.

Check out the link above for details, it would take me too long to type out everything this amp can do, but put it this way, I wish I had this amp when I was learning guitar, I would have progressed a LOT faster and had a lot less of a frustrating time in the process.

 

As for recommending a electric guitar, well its pretty hard to get a dud now days with modern manufacturing, if you stay with the major manufacturers and don't buy the absolute cheapest model.

I'd just stay clear of getting a Gibson Led Paul or copy of, as I think it will be too heavy for your daughter [I've always found them too heavy ]

Same could be said of the weight of most semi acoustic guitars in the Gibson/Epiphone ES335 type.....although you haven't mentioned the age of your daughter, so this might not be as big a problem if around 15 or above.

[Hilltop Hippy]

@Tweaky thanks so much for the suggestion! I'll look into it. I don't play, so this is really helpful info. Cheers

 

PS. She's 11

Edited October 19, 2023 by Hilltop Hippy